Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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@booboo safe as in he's going with players he knows well rather than players actually showing form. Safe in his head but in reality he's picked a team that has some fairly obvious weaknesses.
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo safe as in he's going with players he knows well rather than players actually showing form. Safe in his head but in reality he's picked a team that has some fairly obvious weaknesses.
Yeah, I wouldn't consider that midfield and JB on the wing playing it safe. And let's face it, the jury is still very much out on whether RM at 10 BB at 15 can work long-term.
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Those that have previously felt the pain of Fozzie have reacted as expected including myself. The selection has all the hallmarks of a confused Chiefs team previously under his control.
I can understand getting both Barretts on the field at the same time. Although the ballsy option would have been keeping Beauden as the super sub. Jordie has been immense playing in that position this year.
I could understand Goodhue at centre but not at 12. I struggle to even understand the rationale behind this one.
Given Cane was going to be captain, I would have had Ardie as a super sub as well. If we were trying to address weaknesses of the World Cup, Sotutu’s size alone would have been a better fit.
Still think we will win by 10+ but shit I think we could have done better
@bayimports said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I can understand getting both Barretts on the field at the same time. Although the ballsy option would have been keeping Beauden as the super sub. Jordie has been immense playing in that position this year.
Lets face it Jordie has been very sketchy at test level, no ways Foster was going to leave Beaudies experience on the bench in his first outing. If we see poor decision making from Jordie hes getting pulled quickly, would no surprised to see ALB,Goodhue with Rieko on the wing fairly early in the game.
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Those that have previously felt the pain of Fozzie have reacted as expected including myself. The selection has all the hallmarks of a confused Chiefs team previously under his control.
I can understand getting both Barretts on the field at the same time. Although the ballsy option would have been keeping Beauden as the super sub. Jordie has been immense playing in that position this year.
I could understand Goodhue at centre but not at 12. I struggle to even understand the rationale behind this one.
Given Cane was going to be captain, I would have had Ardie as a super sub as well. If we were trying to address weaknesses of the World Cup, Sotutu’s size alone would have been a better fit.
Still think we will win by 10+ but shit I think we could have done better
@bayimports on Goodhue, he hasn’t played one game at 13 this year as far as I can remember anyway. Much to my dismay but he has been at 12 all season.
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I would've put money on Jordan making the 23. At least Sotutu is, here's hoping both players impress when they do get the chance. Ardie and Beaudie should be fighting for their natural positions, not being shoehorned in when they are perfect utility bench players.
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On this concept of the team being "safe".
IMO the "safe" team is not necessarly the team that is most likely to win.
Picking a team that is "less likely to lose" is kind of a pussy way out of taking a risk of trying to win, and conversely makes you more likely to lose because you're less likely to win.
That made sense when I thought it through in my head. Think it still does, but I'll leave it to youse guys.
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
On this concept of the team being "safe".
IMO the "safe" team is not necessarly the team that is most likely to win.
Picking a team that is "less likely to lose" is kind of a pussy way out of taking a risk of trying to win, and conversely makes you more likely to lose because you're less likely to win.
That made sense when I thought it through in my head. Think it still does, but I'll leave it to youse guys.
We don’t really know though do we. Some these guys have experienced the loss of England but have another albeit disrupted season under their belts.
Some brand new players in the match day 23 and around the squad also can have a positive impact too.
Nothing is safe about this squad in my opinion (whatever that means). It doesn’t even have a “I’m worried about losing” feel to it either.
Bring on the Convicts.
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@bayimports said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I can understand getting both Barretts on the field at the same time. Although the ballsy option would have been keeping Beauden as the super sub. Jordie has been immense playing in that position this year.
Lets face it Jordie has been very sketchy at test level, no ways Foster was going to leave Beaudies experience on the bench in his first outing. If we see poor decision making from Jordie hes getting pulled quickly, would no surprised to see ALB,Goodhue with Rieko on the wing fairly early in the game.
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@bayimports on Goodhue, he hasn’t played one game at 13 this year as far as I can remember anyway. Much to my dismay but he has been at 12 all season.
@ACT-Crusader sure but based on form at 12 none of us would have picked it, feel sorry for ALB. I think most of us here think he has played his best at 13
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@ACT-Crusader sure but based on form at 12 none of us would have picked it, feel sorry for ALB. I think most of us here think he has played his best at 13
@bayimports said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader sure but based on form at 12 none of us would have picked it, feel sorry for ALB. I think most of us here think he has played his best at 13
I like ALBs game, not as much as @mariner4life but there is something safe about him that is reassuring. But there is something that could be special with a Goodhue / Ioane midfield if both iron out a few issues. A definite work in progress and a risk to boot.
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Just reading the caketin isn't sold out, 5000 seats available, first time since 2012 (in wellington )
apparently, people still a bit cautious@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Just reading the caketin isn't sold out, 5000 seats available, first time since 2012 (in wellington )
apparently, people still a bit cautiousTicket prices look stupid when folks can go and watch the game at the pub for the price of a beer.
If there are any unsold seats, I hope they invite some Wellington school kids to attend for free.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Just reading the caketin isn't sold out, 5000 seats available, first time since 2012 (in wellington )
apparently, people still a bit cautiousTicket prices look stupid when folks can go and watch the game at the pub for the price of a beer.
If there are any unsold seats, I hope they invite some Wellington school kids to attend for free.
@sparky school holidays...won't get the message out through schools.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Lomu
Sivi
Rok
Savea
Ioane
Bridge
Bridge is the boring, safe selection I was worried about. And picking Savea at eight is the other obvious mistake (not even in the top three eights in the country)
Fozzie is trying not to lose, not actually win.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Just reading the caketin isn't sold out, 5000 seats available, first time since 2012 (in wellington )
apparently, people still a bit cautiousTicket prices look stupid when folks can go and watch the game at the pub for the price of a beer.
If there are any unsold seats, I hope they invite some Wellington school kids to attend for free.
@sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Just reading the caketin isn't sold out, 5000 seats available, first time since 2012 (in wellington )
apparently, people still a bit cautiousTicket prices look stupid when folks can go and watch the game at the pub for the price of a beer.
If there are any unsold seats, I hope they invite some Wellington school kids to attend for free.
I'd guess a few might get snapped up late but really it's a combo of cautiousness/uncertainty about crowds, time of year (lots of household garden type work to get through to tidy up after winter plus kids go back to school the next day and parents tend to feel like they need to get organised for that ) and cost (Adult and two kids is about $150 for crappy seats, plus food and drink at inflated prices)
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Just listening to Fozzie and he says about Jordie...'No doubt he was the form 15 this year, that's why he's on the field'
But he's not playing 15 you twit!thats shit f's me off
welcome! welcome! welcome to Chiefs land, circa 2000s! i hope you all enjoy your stay
@Donsteppa i bet they all thought we were over-egging it then too
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
welcome! welcome! welcome to Chiefs land, circa 2000s! i hope you all enjoy your stay
@Donsteppa i bet they all thought we were over-egging it then tooJust to go back to that:
We knew, we were just pleased about it.
Not so much now of course.
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It must be a while since the ABs have started an all-white back three. Welcome to the 1980s.
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@Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
It must be a while since the ABs have started an all-white back three. Welcome to the 1980s.
Kirwan Green Gallagher? Wright was reserve!
@canefan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
It must be a while since the ABs have started an all-white back three. Welcome to the 1980s.
Kirwan Green Gallagher? Wright was reserve!
That was the 1987 RWC back three. Wright replaced Green permanently in the starting XV from 1988.
I'm not sure when the most recent time was.
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@canefan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
It must be a while since the ABs have started an all-white back three. Welcome to the 1980s.
Kirwan Green Gallagher? Wright was reserve!
That was the 1987 RWC back three. Wright replaced Green permanently in the starting XV from 1988.
I'm not sure when the most recent time was.
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@canefan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
It must be a while since the ABs have started an all-white back three. Welcome to the 1980s.
Kirwan Green Gallagher? Wright was reserve!
That was the 1987 RWC back three. Wright replaced Green permanently in the starting XV from 1988.
I'm not sure when the most recent time was.
I'm thinking that might have been the last time
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It must be a while since the ABs have started an all-white back three. Welcome to the 1980s.
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
It must be a while since the ABs have started an all-white back three. Welcome to the 1980s.
Define 'white"......do Cullen, Ralph, Kahui, Jane etc count ?
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@Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
It must be a while since the ABs have started an all-white back three. Welcome to the 1980s.
Define 'white"......do Cullen, Ralph, Kahui, Jane etc count ?
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While I think the ABs will win comfortably, there's a real Wallaby feel to the AB XV: just picking the most talented blokes without much thought to the number on their back.
I really like Savea, Goodhue, Rieko and JB as players but it does look a bit odd seeing them picked where they have been. That said if it all clicks they could run up a cricket score.
