Pasifika SR team
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@stargazer said in Pasifika SR team:
Or can "current" include a player who's played for the ABs in the past and isn't in the current squad, but hasn't left NZ? Someone like Peter Umaga-Jensen?
Yes current doesn't just mean current squad.
Rob Nichol "You can have three players who are current, or currently eligible for the All Blacks."
@kiwimurph Lauaki and Sivivatu played for that PI team v the ABs didnt they, uncapped prior werent they and very likely to play for ABs when selected?...
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Just makes me smile at the assumption that any player who plays for MP will be of Pasifika heritage. With the 3 ABs etc allowance it could be maybe Brodie Retallic, Beauden Barrett etc for instance. You fellas maybe need to stop thinking skin colour etc is the criteria.
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Just makes me smile at the assumption that any player who plays for MP will be of Pasifika heritage. With the 3 ABs etc allowance it could be maybe Brodie Retallic, Beauden Barrett etc for instance. You fellas maybe need to stop thinking skin colour etc is the criteria.
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@derpus said in Pasifika SR team:
@dan54 Soooo... what's the point?
80% of the team are Samoa/Tonga qualified, giving a leg up to those national teams. They will have control over those players same way NZR and AR have control of theirs, rather than trying to prise them from Euro clubs
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@derpus said in Pasifika SR team:
@dan54 Soooo... what's the point?
80% of the team are Samoa/Tonga qualified, giving a leg up to those national teams. They will have control over those players same way NZR and AR have control of theirs, rather than trying to prise them from Euro clubs
@machpants it seems to me that the majority who can play for MP will also be AB eligible. So as soon as they turn out half decent they'll shift to another franchise because the ABs actually pay you to play test rugby.
On top of this they are working with a smaller pool of potential players and likely less resources.
Just seems like they'll be flogs who get their best talent poached whenever it comes through. That, or they just become the sixth NZ franchise (which may actually be a half decent move).
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@machpants it seems to me that the majority who can play for MP will also be AB eligible. So as soon as they turn out half decent they'll shift to another franchise because the ABs actually pay you to play test rugby.
On top of this they are working with a smaller pool of potential players and likely less resources.
Just seems like they'll be flogs who get their best talent poached whenever it comes through. That, or they just become the sixth NZ franchise (which may actually be a half decent move).
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@machpants it seems to me that the majority who can play for MP will also be AB eligible. So as soon as they turn out half decent they'll shift to another franchise because the ABs actually pay you to play test rugby.
On top of this they are working with a smaller pool of potential players and likely less resources.
Just seems like they'll be flogs who get their best talent poached whenever it comes through. That, or they just become the sixth NZ franchise (which may actually be a half decent move).
@derpus said in Pasifika SR team:
@machpants it seems to me that the majority who can play for MP will also be AB eligible. So as soon as they turn out half decent they'll shift to another franchise because the ABs actually pay you to play test rugby.
On top of this they are working with a smaller pool of potential players and likely less resources.
Just seems like they'll be flogs who get their best talent poached whenever it comes through. That, or they just become the sixth NZ franchise (which may actually be a half decent move).
I thought that 8% had to declare for Samoa or Tonga, which takes them out of AB's or Aussie's reach doesn't it?
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@derpus There are a few players now floating around Counties Manukau and neighbouring regions that view does not apply too. I wonder if their return from offshore has anything to do with MP?
@arhs said in Pasifika SR team:
@derpus There are a few players now floating around Counties Manukau and neighbouring regions that view does not apply too. I wonder if their return from offshore has anything to do with MP?
Yep think that's why Sekope Kefu is back, think I heard him talk about it on tv.
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@derpus said in Pasifika SR team:
@machpants it seems to me that the majority who can play for MP will also be AB eligible. So as soon as they turn out half decent they'll shift to another franchise because the ABs actually pay you to play test rugby.
On top of this they are working with a smaller pool of potential players and likely less resources.
Just seems like they'll be flogs who get their best talent poached whenever it comes through. That, or they just become the sixth NZ franchise (which may actually be a half decent move).
I thought that 8% had to declare for Samoa or Tonga, which takes them out of AB's or Aussie's reach doesn't it?
@dan54 I think 80% (not 8%) needs to be eligible for Tonga, Samoa (or other Pacific nations?) or have already played for them. I don't think they have to declare for (i.e. committing to) them. In any case, as long as they're contracted to MP, they'll be ineligible for any other nation, such as NZ and Oz.
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@arhs said in Pasifika SR team:
@derpus There are a few players now floating around Counties Manukau and neighbouring regions that view does not apply too. I wonder if their return from offshore has anything to do with MP?
Yep think that's why Sekope Kefu is back, think I heard him talk about it on tv.
@dan54 said in Pasifika SR team:
Yep think that's why Sekope Kefu is back, think I heard him talk about it on tv.
They could also sign the likes of Manu and Lam (if not returning to Japan) to provide some experience. Apisai is a local who isn't in a current NZ squad.
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@dan54 said in Pasifika SR team:
Yep think that's why Sekope Kefu is back, think I heard him talk about it on tv.
They could also sign the likes of Manu and Lam (if not returning to Japan) to provide some experience. Apisai is a local who isn't in a current NZ squad.
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@bovidae other possibles are Puafisi, Slade, Motuga, Rarasea (Drua), Taumateine, Tuiloma, Tatafu, N Latu, Tikoirotuma (Drua), Leuila, Anae, Woonton, Lay, S Tuipolutu. Pretty much all captured by the Pacific Islands and not in super franchise contract.
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@arhs Remove Slade from that list but, I agree, plenty to choose from in the greater Auckland region.
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@derpus said in Pasifika SR team:
@machpants it seems to me that the majority who can play for MP will also be AB eligible. So as soon as they turn out half decent they'll shift to another franchise because the ABs actually pay you to play test rugby.
On top of this they are working with a smaller pool of potential players and likely less resources.
Just seems like they'll be flogs who get their best talent poached whenever it comes through. That, or they just become the sixth NZ franchise (which may actually be a half decent move).
I thought that 8% had to declare for Samoa or Tonga, which takes them out of AB's or Aussie's reach doesn't it?
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i may have missed it, have the confirmed where MP will play their home games?
@Kiwiwomble I feel like I heard Mt. Smart? Could be wrong.
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@Kiwiwomble I feel like I heard Mt. Smart? Could be wrong.
@yeetyaah said in Pasifika SR team:
@Kiwiwomble I feel like I heard Mt. Smart? Could be wrong.
Sure I heard that too mate.
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@Kiwiwomble I feel like I heard Mt. Smart? Could be wrong.
@yeetyaah id been assuming Mt Smart or Pukekohe or maybe split between, as you say we much be due some sore of announcements soon
I also might have missed this but, i thought when we had the MP v maori games they were saying it may have the same name but the super team would be different etc, but theyre using the same logo and branding etc
