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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • D Derpus

    @Snowy Not for this thread, but, NPC is impossible in Aus. Tyranny of distance.

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    @Derpus Yeah, living on a massive continent is an issue.

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      @Derpus Yeah, living on a massive continent is an issue.

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      @Snowy @Derpus I don't think its a massive issue when the playing talent is clustered around two cities, really.

      Unfortunately those pesky Canberrans (both of them) want a team in the draw and Perth... well...

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

        At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

        Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.

        Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.

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        @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

        At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

        Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.

        Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.

        I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.

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          Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?

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            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?

            Semi. They'll join in a week or two. Make of that what you will

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            • M Machpants

              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?

              Semi. They'll join in a week or two. Make of that what you will

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              @Machpants said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?

              Semi. They'll join in a week or two. Make of that what you will

              exactly neither will be on flight with rest of initial squad

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                With the way JB is defending on the wing, it's definitely not defence keeping Jordan out.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  With the way JB is defending on the wing, it's definitely not defence keeping Jordan out.

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                  @Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact

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                    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact

                    Yeah I think that's more likely. Jordie is really coming into his own throwing his big giraffe body around and being a bully too and I think they probably like having that aggression out there, but he doesn't fit their midfield and his brother is a legend at 15.

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                      Oh yeah, JB also seems to be used a lot for pen kicks to touch which is interesting.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact

                        Yeah I think that's more likely. Jordie is really coming into his own throwing his big giraffe body around and being a bully too and I think they probably like having that aggression out there, but he doesn't fit their midfield and his brother is a legend at 15.

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                        @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact

                        Yeah I think that's more likely. Jordie is really coming into his own throwing his big giraffe body around and being a bully too and I think they probably like having that aggression out there, but he doesn't fit their midfield and his brother is a legend at 15.

                        The hit he put on their prop was brilliant. And was it him that unloaded on Koroibete as well? He wasn't the same after that

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact

                          Yeah I think that's more likely. Jordie is really coming into his own throwing his big giraffe body around and being a bully too and I think they probably like having that aggression out there, but he doesn't fit their midfield and his brother is a legend at 15.

                          The hit he put on their prop was brilliant. And was it him that unloaded on Koroibete as well? He wasn't the same after that

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                          @canefan I remember the one from ALB. Jordie leaves his wing open too often though which I assume is what people see with Jordan. I haven't noticed it.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            Oh yeah, JB also seems to be used a lot for pen kicks to touch which is interesting.

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                            @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            Oh yeah, JB also seems to be used a lot for pen kicks to touch which is interesting.

                            In the Welly test I noticed that, but I’m sure Beaudie took a couple in Auckland.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @canefan I remember the one from ALB. Jordie leaves his wing open too often though which I assume is what people see with Jordan. I haven't noticed it.

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                              @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @canefan I remember the one from ALB. Jordie leaves his wing open too often though which I assume is what people see with Jordan. I haven't noticed it.

                              Oh yeah, it was ALB, totally unloaded on him and he shelled almost every pass after that

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                                At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

                                Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.

                                Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.

                                I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.

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                                @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                                At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

                                Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.

                                Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.

                                I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.

                                I think playing Jordie on the wing is detrimental to his development and has the potential to cause him to take backward steps.

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                                  I am not sure anyone is attacking my post so I thought I would defend it: Goodhue is good at 13. Don't like him at 12.
                                  I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                                    At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

                                    Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.

                                    Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.

                                    I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.

                                    I think playing Jordie on the wing is detrimental to his development and has the potential to cause him to take backward steps.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                                    At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

                                    Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.

                                    Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.

                                    I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.

                                    I think playing Jordie on the wing is detrimental to his development and has the potential to cause him to take backward steps.

                                    We have too many Barretts and not enough positions to fill

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      I am not sure anyone is attacking my post so I thought I would defend it: Goodhue is good at 13. Don't like him at 12.
                                      I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.

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                                      @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      I am not sure anyone is attacking my post so I thought I would defend it: Goodhue is good at 13. Don't like him at 12.
                                      I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.

                                      Jack throws some high quality shade though.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        Ah coolio

                                        https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                                        "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                                        ...
                                        The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

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                                        Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?

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                                        @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?

                                        Here it is in the sunlight - tho they're probably using a reflector to add more light to the shot:

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?

                                          Here it is in the sunlight - tho they're probably using a reflector to add more light to the shot:

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                                          @NTA so the 'uniform' comes with matching giant tea towels! Useful!

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