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  • canefanC canefan

    @Dodge said in Golf:

    @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

    I agree. I don't think the fact they earn big money should be a way to justify not paying them, at least to cover costs. Unless the RC is the only invitational team event where individual pros pay for nix. A quick google search suggests Davis Cup players get paid, although at a much lower rate than the players could earn from other sources

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    @canefan I assume it was originally an amateur competition, that has evolved into picking the best available (although Dechamblowhard would dispute this) which is all pro players.

    I couldnt care less if they are paid or not, but I expect given the profile and coverage, someone is making some good coin out of this, so no reason why the players shouldnt get their piece of gold.

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      Google tells me each US player gets assigned $200K, 100K of which goes to a charity of their choice and the other 100K goes towards PGA nominated charities.

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      • canefanC canefan

        US mounting a comeback in the afternoon matches. Comfortably up in two matches, down 1 in each of the other two with plenty of holes to play. If they want to give themselves any chance of getting close enough to compete tomorrow I think they have to win all 4 matches. Spieth has been ice cold in all his matches so far, and he's continued to be a burden to Thomas. If they had an alternative option I think the US should have played them

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        @canefan said in Golf:

        US mounting a comeback in the afternoon matches. Comfortably up in two matches, down 1 in each of the other two with plenty of holes to play. If they want to give themselves any chance of getting close enough to compete tomorrow I think they have to win all 4 matches. Spieth has been ice cold in all his matches so far, and he's continued to be a burden to Thomas. If they had an alternative option I think the US should have played them

        You mean DJ or Deschambeau?

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Dodge apparently there are some issues in the team with Patrick Cantalay leading a protest about not being paid...slowest fluffybunny in the game will no doubt get his point across, eventually.

          https://www.australiangolfdigest.com.au/ryder-cup-2023-patrick-cantlay-no-hat-european-fans/?fbclid=IwAR0ATNbHnnrBdNAxvv64rLkynaNloHqu4gP_274J8mfh-Y2EXgvxf0yK6gc

          Rory pissed about something

          https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cx0wFnfAd-V/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

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          @taniwharugby said in Golf:

          @Dodge apparently there are some issues in the team with Patrick Cantalay leading a protest about not being paid...slowest fluffybunny in the game will no doubt get his point across, eventually.

          https://www.australiangolfdigest.com.au/ryder-cup-2023-patrick-cantlay-no-hat-european-fans/?fbclid=IwAR0ATNbHnnrBdNAxvv64rLkynaNloHqu4gP_274J8mfh-Y2EXgvxf0yK6gc

          Rory pissed about something

          https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cx0wFnfAd-V/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

          Rory is pissed about a lot of things. Getting played by Monahan and not getting that Saudi money. Not a big fan of his whining and virtue signaling but that caddie should not have been anywhere near his line. A nine iron to the shins might have helped him realize his position.

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            I like Rory less and less as time goes on. He’s a shit spokesman for the PGA. Just comes across as a fucking whiney prick.

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            • broughieB broughie

              @canefan said in Golf:

              US mounting a comeback in the afternoon matches. Comfortably up in two matches, down 1 in each of the other two with plenty of holes to play. If they want to give themselves any chance of getting close enough to compete tomorrow I think they have to win all 4 matches. Spieth has been ice cold in all his matches so far, and he's continued to be a burden to Thomas. If they had an alternative option I think the US should have played them

              You mean DJ or Deschambeau?

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              @broughie said in Golf:

              @canefan said in Golf:

              US mounting a comeback in the afternoon matches. Comfortably up in two matches, down 1 in each of the other two with plenty of holes to play. If they want to give themselves any chance of getting close enough to compete tomorrow I think they have to win all 4 matches. Spieth has been ice cold in all his matches so far, and he's continued to be a burden to Thomas. If they had an alternative option I think the US should have played them

              You mean DJ or Deschambeau?

              No. Within the actual squad. But both those guys should have been there if the US were serious about winning

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                I like Rory less and less as time goes on. He’s a shit spokesman for the PGA. Just comes across as a fucking whiney prick.

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                @Hooroo said in Golf:

                I like Rory less and less as time goes on. He’s a shit spokesman for the PGA. Just comes across as a fucking whiney prick.

                Well. I mean. He's Irish

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                • DodgeD Dodge

                  @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

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                  @Dodge said in Golf:

                  @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                  I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                  Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

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                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                    @Dodge said in Golf:

                    @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                    I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                    Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

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                    @Catogrande said in Golf:

                    @Dodge said in Golf:

                    @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                    I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                    Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                    I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Catogrande said in Golf:

                      @Dodge said in Golf:

                      @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                      I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                      Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                      I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

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                      @canefan said in Golf:

                      @Catogrande said in Golf:

                      @Dodge said in Golf:

                      @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                      I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                      Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                      I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

                      In a way that’s the position now, the players and their entourages get well looked after and they’re given money to donate to charities. Someone mentioned a figure of £200k?

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                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                        @canefan said in Golf:

                        @Catogrande said in Golf:

                        @Dodge said in Golf:

                        @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                        I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                        Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                        I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

                        In a way that’s the position now, the players and their entourages get well looked after and they’re given money to donate to charities. Someone mentioned a figure of £200k?

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                        @Catogrande said in Golf:

                        @canefan said in Golf:

                        @Catogrande said in Golf:

                        @Dodge said in Golf:

                        @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                        I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                        Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                        I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

                        In a way that’s the position now, the players and their entourages get well looked after and they’re given money to donate to charities. Someone mentioned a figure of £200k?

                        If that's the case, if you don't want to play for whatever reason, just opt out

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                          Brutal from Koepka

                          https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxtrV7ONNBo/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            Brutal from Koepka

                            https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxtrV7ONNBo/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

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                            @taniwharugby

                            I never really took to Koepka not sure why, but seeing him and a few others on Swing (Netflix), they came across very well and that clip sort of confirms it.

                            Patrick Reed, not so much.

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              @taniwharugby

                              I never really took to Koepka not sure why, but seeing him and a few others on Swing (Netflix), they came across very well and that clip sort of confirms it.

                              Patrick Reed, not so much.

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                              @Catogrande I was the same, used to think he was a twat until that series.

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                              • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                @taniwharugby

                                I never really took to Koepka not sure why, but seeing him and a few others on Swing (Netflix), they came across very well and that clip sort of confirms it.

                                Patrick Reed, not so much.

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                                @Catogrande said in Golf:

                                @taniwharugby

                                I never really took to Koepka not sure why, but seeing him and a few others on Swing (Netflix), they came across very well and that clip sort of confirms it.

                                Patrick Reed, not so much.

                                I’m the opposite. Liked Brooks but didn’t like him on Netflix

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @Catogrande I was the same, used to think he was a twat until that series.

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                                  @taniwharugby Exactly the same as me. Really wasn't a fan but doesnt appear a bad guy at all

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    Brutal from Koepka

                                    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxtrV7ONNBo/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Golf:

                                    Brutal from Koepka

                                    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxtrV7ONNBo/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

                                    Maybe so. But if you add Dechambeau, Reed, DJ and anyone else from LIV I've forgotten in there, I think the US could have won. Johnson had his captain's picks and could have used them. He picked Spieth, Thomas, Burns, and Fowler along with Koepka and Morikawa. 4 of those guys did fuck all IIRC

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @Hooroo said in Golf:

                                      I like Rory less and less as time goes on. He’s a shit spokesman for the PGA. Just comes across as a fucking whiney prick.

                                      Well. I mean. He's Irish

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                                      @mariner4life said in Golf:

                                      @Hooroo said in Golf:

                                      I like Rory less and less as time goes on. He’s a shit spokesman for the PGA. Just comes across as a fucking whiney prick.

                                      Well. I mean. He's Irish

                                      Yeah same island, just not the same Ireland.

                                      WTF do they do to their sportspeople? I've never met a whiney Irishman in person, but BOD, Sexton, McIlroy all come across as whingers.

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @taniwharugby said in Golf:

                                        Brutal from Koepka

                                        https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxtrV7ONNBo/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

                                        Maybe so. But if you add Dechambeau, Reed, DJ and anyone else from LIV I've forgotten in there, I think the US could have won. Johnson had his captain's picks and could have used them. He picked Spieth, Thomas, Burns, and Fowler along with Koepka and Morikawa. 4 of those guys did fuck all IIRC

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                                        @canefan said in Golf:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Golf:

                                        Brutal from Koepka

                                        https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxtrV7ONNBo/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

                                        Maybe so. But if you add Dechambeau, Reed, DJ and anyone else from LIV I've forgotten in there, I think the US could have won. Johnson had his captain's picks and could have used them. He picked Spieth, Thomas, Burns, and Fowler along with Koepka and Morikawa. 4 of those guys did fuck all IIRC

                                        Really? The US team room already had enough issues without adding two cancerous personalities in there (and DJ). Not to mention Reed and DJ have been playing just as poorly as the players you mentioned.

                                        If anyone should feel hard done by it's Keegan Bradley.

                                        And ultimately the captain's picks sucked, but so did everyone on that team (Homa aside). None of those picks featured in the 9&7 loss...

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                                          I like Rory. Has the stones to put himself out there, and has been hung out to dry by Jay Monahan and the PGA tour brass.

                                          I'll take the ups and downs of Rory ahead of the bland nothingness brought by Cantlay, Schauffele and Scheffler any day of the week.

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