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Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November

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  • GunnerG Gunner

    Pointless question as they won’t get rid of TJP, but who’s next in line at 9?

    Nock?

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    @Gunner Bryn Hall. He's very limited but at least his service is half decent.

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      On current form I would genuinely pick all of Weber, Hall, Nock, Christie, and Fakatava ahead of Perenara.
      Barrett was shit too. It's still a test match you cockhead. Just terrible options.
      Laumape never had a chance outside those two.

      I'm in the 'just fucken tackle lower' camp on the cards. Ofa had all the time in the world to be in a better position than that. The Aussie bloke drops a bit pre-tackle and it's red. That's because Ofa took the risk. So shit for Akira, he was going good.

      Also shit for Jordan to be injured so quick.
      Also shit for Slipper to be injured in a milestone game.
      Also shit for the Aussie bloke to get red on debut - his own fault - but he was going well too.

      Bad coaching. Bad initial selections. Bad use of the bench.

      Oh yeah, and Scott Barrett, you dumb fluffybunny. Good fucken job when you get a card for that cynical shit, hopefully you get dropped for it too.

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      • TimT Away
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        Savea os an impact player. Starting at 8 is dumb.

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        • A akan004

          I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.

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          @akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

          I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.

          The bigger problem would be if he didn't blame himself.
          But he looked pretty contrite in the after match interview.

          All the olders have to take some blame for that nonsense

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            This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc

            Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc

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            • SiamS Siam

              @akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

              I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.

              The bigger problem would be if he didn't blame himself.
              But he looked pretty contrite in the after match interview.

              All the olders have to take some blame for that nonsense

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              @Siam said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

              @akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

              I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.

              The bigger problem would be if he didn't blame himself.
              But he looked pretty contrite in the after match interview.

              All the olders have to take some blame for that nonsense

              Do you think he did? I though he was a bit smug! Just didn't seem that upset to me, and I didn't hear him absorb any blame?

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              • voodooV voodoo

                Lots of talk about BB and SB.

                But did we see enough of "best 15 in the country" JB tonight to relegate him to the bench / outside the 22?

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                @voodoo said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                Lots of talk about BB and SB.

                But did we see enough of "best 15 in the country" JB tonight to relegate him to the bench / outside the 22?

                He certainly didn’t provide that second playmaker role from fullback.

                Very early days but tonight showed a number of areas he needs to work on.

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                  ABs haven't had any midfield penetration since Rieko at 13 in the first test.

                  I'm really annoyed by putting Laumape in the squad. He's just so far off test level. He has running straight and that's it. He gets dominated and isolated at test level, and his distribution is genuinely terrible.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Savea os an impact player. Starting at 8 is dumb.

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                    @Tim you’re kidding right? Ardie was by some way the best player on the park tonight.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      So we know our top 2, 9 & 10, 11,12,13 and 15

                      Props and locks are obvious, SB nigh drop down behind Vaai after another brain fart.

                      There is a battle for 6 and 8 coming up. Weber should get a shot ahead of TJ and move Reiko to 14.

                      Top 15 is starting to look strong.

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                      @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                      So we know our top 2, 9 & 10, 11,12,13 and 15

                      Props and locks are obvious, SB nigh drop down behind Vaai after another brain fart.

                      There is a battle for 6 and 8 coming up. Weber should get a shot ahead of TJ and move Reiko to 14.

                      Top 15 is starting to look strong.

                      Pretty much spot on analysis.

                      Think SB is now in 4th place behind Whitelock, Pat T, & Va'ai. Will be 5th if he has any more brain farts. Think we have an embarrassment of riches at 6 & 8. Different styles of players and a mix of experience but all strong players. Just need to get the combination right.

                      Big gap between AS and the next best 9 based on tonight's game. Just hope TJP picks up his game as the cupboard at 9 is looking bare.

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc

                        Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                        This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc

                        Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc

                        I disagree. We held the ball and scored from it early.

                        Then we decided that we didn’t want to play that way. Went back to kicking it away and trying to play off turnovers. And?

                        If the question is whether it’s coaching, selection, or player decisions, I think the answer is yes.

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          @Siam said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                          @akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                          I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.

                          The bigger problem would be if he didn't blame himself.
                          But he looked pretty contrite in the after match interview.

                          All the olders have to take some blame for that nonsense

                          Do you think he did? I though he was a bit smug! Just didn't seem that upset to me, and I didn't hear him absorb any blame?

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                          @voodoo i know bro, but I'm straw grasping for some progress from this absolute fucken let down!😁

                          Perhaps he was being media savvy but I caught some irritation in his voice early on.

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                          • SiamS Siam

                            @voodoo i know bro, but I'm straw grasping for some progress from this absolute fucken let down!😁

                            Perhaps he was being media savvy but I caught some irritation in his voice early on.

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                            @Siam said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            @voodoo i know bro, but I'm straw grasping for some progress from this absolute fucken let down!😁

                            Perhaps he was being media savvy but I caught some irritation in his voice early on.

                            I can run with that 😎

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                            • gt12G gt12

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc

                              Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc

                              I disagree. We held the ball and scored from it early.

                              Then we decided that we didn’t want to play that way. Went back to kicking it away and trying to play off turnovers. And?

                              If the question is whether it’s coaching, selection, or player decisions, I think the answer is yes.

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                              @gt12 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc

                              Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc

                              I disagree. We held the ball and scored from it early.

                              Then we decided that we didn’t want to play that way. Went back to kicking it away and trying to play off turnovers. And?

                              If the question is whether it’s coaching, selection, or player decisions, I think the answer is yes.

                              The kicking is fine because it’s better to be down in the right half, but the execution was off.

                              Especially with Hodge who eats 50 metre penalties for breakfast.

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                                Laumape's distribution is so bad

                                We rightfully criticised Goodhue's wide passing at 12, but he is so much better than Laumape.

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                                • A akan004

                                  @Tim said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  We have no dominant tacklers other than Cane out there.

                                  That's the problem with this pack.

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                                  @akan004 edit Akira was tackling well. SB was ok

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                                    I might be lynched here but I thought Weber was miles better in his instant cameo than TJP. He could actually pass at speed and to a player.

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      I might be lynched here but I thought Weber was miles better in his instant cameo than TJP. He could actually pass at speed and to a player.

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                                      @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      I might be lynched here but I thought Weber was miles better in his instant cameo than TJP. He could actually pass at speed and to a player.

                                      You haven’t read the thread 🙂

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                                        TJP needs to go to Japan and forget about test rugby. He has lost it.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          I might be lynched here but I thought Weber was miles better in his instant cameo than TJP. He could actually pass at speed and to a player.

                                          You haven’t read the thread 🙂

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                                          @Kirwan LOL. 🙂

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