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Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @BerniesCorner the fuck?? BB at 13?

    @MN5 not sure what relevance Fozzies weight has, seems plenty of people stick the boot in on that aspect, when it has zero reflection on his ability as a coach (doubt he'd be a better coach if he was ripped)

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    @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @BerniesCorner the fuck?? BB at 13?

    @MN5 not sure what relevance Fozzies weight has, seems plenty of people stick the boot in on that aspect, when it has zero reflection on his ability as a coach (doubt he'd be a better coach if he was ripped)

    People function better in all aspects of life at a healthy weight. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

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    • MN5M MN5

      @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

      @BerniesCorner the fuck?? BB at 13?

      @MN5 not sure what relevance Fozzies weight has, seems plenty of people stick the boot in on that aspect, when it has zero reflection on his ability as a coach (doubt he'd be a better coach if he was ripped)

      People function better in all aspects of life at a healthy weight. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

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      @MN5 Given nothing of what he does needs to be made off the cuff where weight and fitness providing clarity of thought while exhausted would be relevant.

      Just think it is a wrong to be calling him fat all the time (similarly people called Hansen fat too)

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @MN5 Given nothing of what he does needs to be made off the cuff where weight and fitness providing clarity of thought while exhausted would be relevant.

        Just think it is a wrong to be calling him fat all the time (similarly people called Hansen fat too)

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        @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

        @MN5 Given nothing of what he does needs to be made off the cuff where weight and fitness providing clarity of thought while exhausted would be relevant.

        Just think it is a wrong to be calling him fat all the time (similarly people called Hansen fat too)

        You’re right in that it doesn’t effect his coaching but it just shows gluttony and a lack of self discipline to me. It’s not like he can’t afford healthy food and access to training and diet advice.

        I guess our opinions will have to differ.

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        • FrankF Frank

          I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

          What a load of BS.

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          @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

          I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

          What a load of BS.

          Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

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          • juniorJ junior

            @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

            What a load of BS.

            Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

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            @junior arrogant or deluded that he had it in him to make the necessary changes....

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              If telling people what they want to hear with no actual intention to rock the boat gets you into the best jobs, why not? It's not like they select on merit..

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                I can’t believe it got all the Mitre 10 cup results right and who would’ve thought it would be the ABs at 1.03 to cost me $80 ok not heaps of money but still

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                  I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                  Was there even a game?

                  I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                  Foster has to go.
                  RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                  I hope Razor can fix them.

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                    @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                    Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change

                    It is a bit hard to preach change when you're still winning over 80% of your games in the most recent RWC cycle.

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change

                      It is a bit hard to preach change when you're still winning over 80% of your games in the most recent RWC cycle.

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                      @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change

                      It is a bit hard to preach change when you're still winning over 80% of your games in the most recent RWC cycle.

                      Except those we lost were crucial, lions, SA, etc. The writing was on the wall, it was picked up on this forum. We were proved right, so why couldn't ask the geniuses at NZR see what we could?

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                      • juniorJ junior

                        @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                        I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                        What a load of BS.

                        Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

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                        @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                        @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                        I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                        What a load of BS.

                        Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

                        Yeah just BS speal with no substance to it.Foster has always been poor as a coach and brings the same old shit from the last two years,He has got go.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                          @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                          I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                          What a load of BS.

                          Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

                          Yeah just BS speal with no substance to it.Foster has always been poor as a coach and brings the same old shit from the last two years,He has got go.

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                          @Chris Amen if I’d didn’t work last year it isn’t suddenly going to this year.

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                            What a load of BS.

                            Clearly the players weren't listening

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                            @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                            What a load of BS.

                            Clearly the players weren't listening

                            Bitch slapping oppo isn’t being physical. Smashing rucks is.

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                              @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                              What a load of BS.

                              Clearly the players weren't listening

                              Bitch slapping oppo isn’t being physical. Smashing rucks is.

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                              @pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                              What a load of BS.

                              Clearly the players weren't listening

                              Bitch slapping oppo isn’t being physical. Smashing rucks is.

                              Anyone told Coles that in the last... ever?

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                                Machpants
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                                Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

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                                  Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

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                                  @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                                  Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                                    Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

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                                    @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                                    Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

                                    Only if it was pre planned.

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                                    • GunnerG Gunner

                                      @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                                      Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

                                      Only if it was pre planned.

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                                      @Gunner said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                                      Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

                                      Only if it they say it was pre planned.

                                      FIFY

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                                      • westcoastieW westcoastie

                                        I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                                        Was there even a game?

                                        I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                                        Foster has to go.
                                        RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                                        I hope Razor can fix them.

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                                        @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                        I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                                        Was there even a game?

                                        I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                                        Foster has to go.
                                        RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                                        I hope Razor can fix them.

                                        RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

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                                        • juniorJ junior

                                          @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                          I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                                          Was there even a game?

                                          I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                                          Foster has to go.
                                          RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                                          I hope Razor can fix them.

                                          RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

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                                          @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                          @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                          I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                                          Was there even a game?

                                          I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                                          Foster has to go.
                                          RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                                          I hope Razor can fix them.

                                          RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                                          He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

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