Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

[DMX]

I really don't get why Akira/Frizell is is making heads explode, I am happy for the depth. When you think historically how long the likes of Zinny, Kaino or Buck had to wait its a nonissue for Akira to wait. The rate of attrition in test rugby is so high, having 5 class loose forwards is not a problem.

[DMX]

@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Bones said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@KiwiMurph yeah I think the battle is probably more between Sotutu and Aoane, than Frizzel.

Foster seems wedded to Cane/Savea/Other, which puts all three against each other.

My personal view is that, whilst working fine against the lighter packs, is unbalanced against a Pom or Bok unit.

Early days but I’m drawn towards a Cane/Sotutu/[Frizell/Aoane] combo, with Savea on bench.

Seems like Akira will get a run in Puma 2.

Oh nooooooooooo, not those Boks and Poms again

I'm guessing for the next four years that will be the new "sky is falling". What about the Boks and Poms!

[Bones]

@Old-Samurai-Jack hah, I didn't know that. Bright Ioane!

[nostrildamus]

@Old-Samurai-Jack I've been saying Frizzell was good but I thought Akira was very effectively disruptive and not just that much quicker he seemed to have a better rugby brain in terms of knowing just where to place himself. Then again he might have gone off the boil if he stayed on any longer-who knows?

[Jailbreak7]

@KiwiMurph said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Argentina team: 1. Tetaz, 2. Julian Montoya, 3. Francisco Gómez-Kodela, 4. Guido Petti, 5. Matias Alemanno, 6. Pablo Matera (C), 7. Marcos Kremer, 8. Rodrigo Bruni, 9. Tomas Cubelli, 10. Nicolas Sánchez, 11. Juan Imhoff, 12. Santiago Chocobares*, 13. Matias Orlando, 14. Bautista Delguy, 15. Santiago Carreras.

Reserves: 16. Facundo Bosch, 17. Mayco Vivas, 18. Santiago Medrano, 19. Santiago Grondona*, 20. Tomas Lezana, 21. Gonzalo Bertranou, 22. Lucio Cinti*, 23. Santiago Cordero.

They really have someone called Chocobares????

[Bovidae]

A little background about the Argentinean team's preparation.

https://www.world.rugby/news/602450/argentina-2020-tri-nations-preview

[antipodean]

Should also keep in mind they've got Chieka as an assistant. So put that in the negative column for them.

[Kiwiwomble]

i'll say it again because it annoys me its not happening

I'm a big frizell fan, i think he deserves to be the incumbent-ish...but Akira sowed enough in his short run to be given another shot against the argies, i would have given cane a rest, played savea at 7, started Sotutu and Akira, with Frizell as loosie/lock cover on the bench

the worrying sign for me is the coaches dont seem to have the ability to change things up like the team didn't on the weekend, this selection just stinks of being decided a few weeks ago and not revisited even after the weekend

[nzzp]

@Jailbreak7 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@KiwiMurph said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Argentina team: 1. Tetaz, 2. Julian Montoya, 3. Francisco Gómez-Kodela, 4. Guido Petti, 5. Matias Alemanno, 6. Pablo Matera (C), 7. Marcos Kremer, 8. Rodrigo Bruni, 9. Tomas Cubelli, 10. Nicolas Sánchez, 11. Juan Imhoff, 12. Santiago Chocobares*, 13. Matias Orlando, 14. Bautista Delguy, 15. Santiago Carreras.

Reserves: 16. Facundo Bosch, 17. Mayco Vivas, 18. Santiago Medrano, 19. Santiago Grondona*, 20. Tomas Lezana, 21. Gonzalo Bertranou, 22. Lucio Cinti*, 23. Santiago Cordero.

They really have someone called Chocobares????

my new favourite player.

[Crucial]

@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

i'll say it again because it annoys me its not happening

I'm a big frizell fan, i think he deserves to be the incumbent-ish...but Akira sowed enough in his short run to be given another shot against the argies, i would have given cane a rest, played savea at 7, started Sotutu and Akira, with Frizell as loosie/lock cover on the bench

the worrying sign for me is the coaches dont seem to have the ability to change things up like the team didn't on the weekend, this selection just stinks of being decided a few weeks ago and not revisited even after the weekend

Or they are revisiting the plans with the mindset of looking for reasons not to change them rather than taking in the current situation with a clean slate.

[NTA]

@nzzp said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Jailbreak7 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@KiwiMurph said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Argentina team: 1. Tetaz, 2. Julian Montoya, 3. Francisco Gómez-Kodela, 4. Guido Petti, 5. Matias Alemanno, 6. Pablo Matera (C), 7. Marcos Kremer, 8. Rodrigo Bruni, 9. Tomas Cubelli, 10. Nicolas Sánchez, 11. Juan Imhoff, 12. Santiago Chocobares*, 13. Matias Orlando, 14. Bautista Delguy, 15. Santiago Carreras.

Reserves: 16. Facundo Bosch, 17. Mayco Vivas, 18. Santiago Medrano, 19. Santiago Grondona*, 20. Tomas Lezana, 21. Gonzalo Bertranou, 22. Lucio Cinti*, 23. Santiago Cordero.

They really have someone called Chocobares????

my new favourite player.

You could say I've been a fan for years

#fatbastard

[nzzp]

@NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@nzzp said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Jailbreak7 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@KiwiMurph said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Argentina team: 1. Tetaz, 2. Julian Montoya, 3. Francisco Gómez-Kodela, 4. Guido Petti, 5. Matias Alemanno, 6. Pablo Matera (C), 7. Marcos Kremer, 8. Rodrigo Bruni, 9. Tomas Cubelli, 10. Nicolas Sánchez, 11. Juan Imhoff, 12. Santiago Chocobares*, 13. Matias Orlando, 14. Bautista Delguy, 15. Santiago Carreras.

Reserves: 16. Facundo Bosch, 17. Mayco Vivas, 18. Santiago Medrano, 19. Santiago Grondona*, 20. Tomas Lezana, 21. Gonzalo Bertranou, 22. Lucio Cinti*, 23. Santiago Cordero.

They really have someone called Chocobares????

my new favourite player.

You could say I've been a fan for years

#fatbastard

see you on the fatty fat fat thread

[nostrildamus]

@NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@nzzp said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Jailbreak7 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@KiwiMurph said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Argentina team: 1. Tetaz, 2. Julian Montoya, 3. Francisco Gómez-Kodela, 4. Guido Petti, 5. Matias Alemanno, 6. Pablo Matera (C), 7. Marcos Kremer, 8. Rodrigo Bruni, 9. Tomas Cubelli, 10. Nicolas Sánchez, 11. Juan Imhoff, 12. Santiago Chocobares*, 13. Matias Orlando, 14. Bautista Delguy, 15. Santiago Carreras.

Reserves: 16. Facundo Bosch, 17. Mayco Vivas, 18. Santiago Medrano, 19. Santiago Grondona*, 20. Tomas Lezana, 21. Gonzalo Bertranou, 22. Lucio Cinti*, 23. Santiago Cordero.

They really have someone called Chocobares????

my new favourite player.

You could say I've been a fan for years

#fatbastard

Chocobares is on debut
https://www.reuters.com/article/rugby-union-championship-nzl-arg/update-1-rugby-centre-chocobares-to-make-pumas-debut-against-all-blacks-idUKL1N2HY04A

Any Argentinians here? I wonder if his name means either
S. American: Pub (Bar) of the Choco (Columbian) people, or
Spanish: Crash Bar..

which would still be rather delightful for a solid midfielder.

[Snowy]

@nostrildamus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Chocobares is on debut
https://www.reuters.com/article/rugby-union-championship-nzl-arg/update-1-rugby-centre-chocobares-to-make-pumas-debut-against-all-blacks-idUKL1N2HY04A
Any Argentinians here? I wonder if his name means either
S. American: Pub (Bar) of the Choco (Columbian) people, or
Spanish: Crash Bar..
which would still be rather delightful for a solid midfielder.

See I just thought of these sorts of things:

I deliberately left out Hershey's Choco bars as we all know which road (highway if you like) that will descend to.

TBF he does look more solid, or muscular rather than fat.

Going to be interesting to see if we do our usual bounce back after a loss. We do have a better team out there this week too.

[nostrildamus]

Wish I was an announcer "And on debut, in the midfield, at 1.88m 91kg, a golden slab of a man with a high-calorie game.."

[chimoaus]

I think we need a thread with the best rugby names.

Be funny if this bloke made the national side.

[NTA]

Decided against the trip to Bankwest - didn't have anyone to go with so rather than be a Nigel Nofriends I hit up a free 10-day Foxtel login.

ABs v Argentina
Last season of GoT

Done.

[NTA]

And looks like I'm getting the SkySports pregame feed and not the Aussie shit.

Besides the missing vowels, it's good.

[NTA]

Ah. Well this pregame is the same boring crap as most pregames. Carry on

[chimoaus]

@NTA Yeah nice seeing NZ comms so far. Interesting stats for HB, not sure what the turnover metric relates too as TJ and AS are very different.