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2020 Māori All Blacks

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
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    I'm really hoping Kanaloa Pasifika goes ahead with their legal action regarding a future Pasifika team in SR. The NZR/NZRPA influence in Moana Pasifika doesn't sit right with me.

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      They've invited foreign interference into their domestic selections, funding, structure.

      They are fools.

      They will have 4 voices (The 3 island unions plus Pacific Welfare) constantly in the media of which I doubt any of the 4 will ever all be happy at the same time.

      This is just some end-of-season jolly.

      Imagine when the real business starts.

      I mean myself, and many others on this board, still resent Ian Foster as the most public figure in a Waikato Rugby Union operated Chiefs franchise from an ownership model structure from 15 years ago. NZRU will make nothing but resentments in this foray.

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      @Rapido As far as I can see, NZR's whole discussion of future Super rugby options has been an absolute shambles.

      They've fucked off the Australians. They've fucked off the Pacific. The South Africans have fucked off.

      And they've ended up getting pretty much nothing that they proposed.

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        Wait, what’s going on here. I thought this was just a one off game between two Baa Baa teams and has nothing to do with any Pasifika super rugby franchises?

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          Wait, what’s going on here. I thought this was just a one off game between two Baa Baa teams and has nothing to do with any Pasifika super rugby franchises?

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          @Nepia said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

          Wait, what’s going on here. I thought this was just a one off game between two Baa Baa teams and has nothing to do with any Pasifika super rugby franchises?

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300165904/tana-umaga-wont-rule-out-moana-pasifika-job-but-says-he-is-happy-at-the-blues

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            Wait, what’s going on here. I thought this was just a one off game between two Baa Baa teams and has nothing to do with any Pasifika super rugby franchises?

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            @Nepia Yes, this is a one-off match. But they were stupid enough to give it the same name as the Pacific franchise that hopes to join SR in 2022.

            I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
            https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @Nepia Yes, this is a one-off match. But they were stupid enough to give it the same name as the Pacific franchise that hopes to join SR in 2022.

              I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
              https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

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              @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

              I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
              https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

              You realise what you're asking don't you....

              You want the people of the fern to stick to their lanes?

              Impossible.

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              • G Gunner

                @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
                https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

                You realise what you're asking don't you....

                You want the people of the fern to stick to their lanes?

                Impossible.

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                @Gunner

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Nepia Yes, this is a one-off match. But they were stupid enough to give it the same name as the Pacific franchise that hopes to join SR in 2022.

                  I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
                  https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

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                  @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                  @Nepia Yes, this is a one-off match. But they were stupid enough to give it the same name as the Pacific franchise that hopes to join SR in 2022.

                  I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
                  https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

                  Just out of interest, has the team name been trademarked, either for the one off game or for the potential SR franchise?

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                    https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

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                    @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                    Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                    https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

                    What a whinging bunch of shunts!
                    WTF does this game have to do with those unions?

                    This whole pasifika team in super rugby thing is going to be a non stop whingefest about the team not getting enough resources, not getting the respect they deserve, not getting enough home games, not getting enough top players from other sides blah blah blah. That tweet and the lawsuit are the tip of the iceberg.

                    Funny how you never hear these people being grateful for the NZ rugby system turning hundreds of pacific islanders into highly paid athletes playing all over the world. The alternative earning capacity of the vast majority of them would have been significantly less had they not gone through that system.

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                    • pukunuiP pukunui

                      @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                      Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                      https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

                      What a whinging bunch of shunts!
                      WTF does this game have to do with those unions?

                      This whole pasifika team in super rugby thing is going to be a non stop whingefest about the team not getting enough resources, not getting the respect they deserve, not getting enough home games, not getting enough top players from other sides blah blah blah. That tweet and the lawsuit are the tip of the iceberg.

                      Funny how you never hear these people being grateful for the NZ rugby system turning hundreds of pacific islanders into highly paid athletes playing all over the world. The alternative earning capacity of the vast majority of them would have been significantly less had they not gone through that system.

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                      @pukunui said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                      Funny how you never hear these people being grateful for the NZ rugby system turning hundreds of pacific islanders into highly paid athletes playing all over the world. The alternative earning capacity of the vast majority of them would have been significantly less had they not gone through that system.

                      This is what really pisses me off.

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                        #122

                        It's just a terrible idea.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                          https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

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                          #123

                          @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                          Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                          https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

                          side doesnt look 'evenly' spread to me...how many years has it been M10 Cup now?

                          If not for Covid, woudl this game even be played? I mean December rugby in NZ....yeah happens every year!

                          Think people are reading far too much into the squad.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                            Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                            https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

                            side doesnt look 'evenly' spread to me...how many years has it been M10 Cup now?

                            If not for Covid, woudl this game even be played? I mean December rugby in NZ....yeah happens every year!

                            Think people are reading far too much into the squad.

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                            @taniwharugby Yeah, I think they were just looking for a game to play for the Maori ABs and they had to find an opponent. They could have opted for the NZ Baabaas (which I would have preferred), but "supporting Pasifika rugby" is in fashion, so that's what they went with. It's a good way to get a bit more :money_bag: in NZR's coffers.

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                              I think the Pasifica team was going to play the All Blacks before their Aussie and Argentine tests,but because the Mitre 10 coaches weren’t happy losing players it was canned.This game is probably more for giving this years Maori side a game.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @taniwharugby Yeah, I think they were just looking for a game to play for the Maori ABs and they had to find an opponent. They could have opted for the NZ Baabaas (which I would have preferred), but "supporting Pasifika rugby" is in fashion, so that's what they went with. It's a good way to get a bit more :money_bag: in NZR's coffers.

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                                bobily2
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                                @Stargazer

                                As I understand it, NZR are losing about $100k from this game

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                                  @Stargazer

                                  As I understand it, NZR are losing about $100k from this game

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  #127

                                  @bobily2 no one cares about NZR, what benefits will the Island unions get from this team!!

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                                    Bovidae
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                                    Osborne does have a sense of humour.

                                    The role has also brought some fond memories flooding back for Brown, who revealed that he was cheekily given the nickname Inanga ‘’Whitebait’ by Glen Osborne when he first represented NZ Māori in the 1996.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300171149/tony-inanga-brown-vows-mori-will-bring-testlike-intensity-to-pasifika-game

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Osborne does have a sense of humour.

                                      The role has also brought some fond memories flooding back for Brown, who revealed that he was cheekily given the nickname Inanga ‘’Whitebait’ by Glen Osborne when he first represented NZ Māori in the 1996.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300171149/tony-inanga-brown-vows-mori-will-bring-testlike-intensity-to-pasifika-game

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                                      Nepia
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                                      @Bovidae That’s pretty, also quite funny coming from Osborne too as he’s pretty fair himself.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Bovidae That’s pretty, also quite funny coming from Osborne too as he’s pretty fair himself.

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                                        @Nepia said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                                        @Bovidae That’s pretty, also quite funny coming from Osborne too as he’s pretty fair himself.

                                        Not suffering from a hint of ginge tho

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                                          Yeah, neither are quite as pale as Tito.

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