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2020 Māori All Blacks

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Nepia Yes, this is a one-off match. But they were stupid enough to give it the same name as the Pacific franchise that hopes to join SR in 2022.

    I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

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    @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

    You realise what you're asking don't you....

    You want the people of the fern to stick to their lanes?

    Impossible.

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      @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

      I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
      https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

      You realise what you're asking don't you....

      You want the people of the fern to stick to their lanes?

      Impossible.

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      @Gunner

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @Nepia Yes, this is a one-off match. But they were stupid enough to give it the same name as the Pacific franchise that hopes to join SR in 2022.

        I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
        https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

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        @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

        @Nepia Yes, this is a one-off match. But they were stupid enough to give it the same name as the Pacific franchise that hopes to join SR in 2022.

        I hope we can keep that discussion out of this thread. The Pasifika SR team thread can be found here:
        https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4217/pasifika-sr-team/22

        Just out of interest, has the team name been trademarked, either for the one off game or for the potential SR franchise?

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

          https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

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          @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

          Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

          https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

          What a whinging bunch of shunts!
          WTF does this game have to do with those unions?

          This whole pasifika team in super rugby thing is going to be a non stop whingefest about the team not getting enough resources, not getting the respect they deserve, not getting enough home games, not getting enough top players from other sides blah blah blah. That tweet and the lawsuit are the tip of the iceberg.

          Funny how you never hear these people being grateful for the NZ rugby system turning hundreds of pacific islanders into highly paid athletes playing all over the world. The alternative earning capacity of the vast majority of them would have been significantly less had they not gone through that system.

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          • pukunuiP pukunui

            @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

            Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

            https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

            What a whinging bunch of shunts!
            WTF does this game have to do with those unions?

            This whole pasifika team in super rugby thing is going to be a non stop whingefest about the team not getting enough resources, not getting the respect they deserve, not getting enough home games, not getting enough top players from other sides blah blah blah. That tweet and the lawsuit are the tip of the iceberg.

            Funny how you never hear these people being grateful for the NZ rugby system turning hundreds of pacific islanders into highly paid athletes playing all over the world. The alternative earning capacity of the vast majority of them would have been significantly less had they not gone through that system.

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            @pukunui said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

            Funny how you never hear these people being grateful for the NZ rugby system turning hundreds of pacific islanders into highly paid athletes playing all over the world. The alternative earning capacity of the vast majority of them would have been significantly less had they not gone through that system.

            This is what really pisses me off.

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              It's just a terrible idea.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

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                @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

                side doesnt look 'evenly' spread to me...how many years has it been M10 Cup now?

                If not for Covid, woudl this game even be played? I mean December rugby in NZ....yeah happens every year!

                Think people are reading far too much into the squad.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                  Hmmm 🤔 , I hope the last paragraph is nothing more than rumours ...

                  https://twitter.com/pacificwelfare/status/1331070663122055168

                  side doesnt look 'evenly' spread to me...how many years has it been M10 Cup now?

                  If not for Covid, woudl this game even be played? I mean December rugby in NZ....yeah happens every year!

                  Think people are reading far too much into the squad.

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                  @taniwharugby Yeah, I think they were just looking for a game to play for the Maori ABs and they had to find an opponent. They could have opted for the NZ Baabaas (which I would have preferred), but "supporting Pasifika rugby" is in fashion, so that's what they went with. It's a good way to get a bit more :money_bag: in NZR's coffers.

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                    I think the Pasifica team was going to play the All Blacks before their Aussie and Argentine tests,but because the Mitre 10 coaches weren’t happy losing players it was canned.This game is probably more for giving this years Maori side a game.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @taniwharugby Yeah, I think they were just looking for a game to play for the Maori ABs and they had to find an opponent. They could have opted for the NZ Baabaas (which I would have preferred), but "supporting Pasifika rugby" is in fashion, so that's what they went with. It's a good way to get a bit more :money_bag: in NZR's coffers.

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                      @Stargazer

                      As I understand it, NZR are losing about $100k from this game

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                        @Stargazer

                        As I understand it, NZR are losing about $100k from this game

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                        #127

                        @bobily2 no one cares about NZR, what benefits will the Island unions get from this team!!

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                          Osborne does have a sense of humour.

                          The role has also brought some fond memories flooding back for Brown, who revealed that he was cheekily given the nickname Inanga ‘’Whitebait’ by Glen Osborne when he first represented NZ Māori in the 1996.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300171149/tony-inanga-brown-vows-mori-will-bring-testlike-intensity-to-pasifika-game

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            Osborne does have a sense of humour.

                            The role has also brought some fond memories flooding back for Brown, who revealed that he was cheekily given the nickname Inanga ‘’Whitebait’ by Glen Osborne when he first represented NZ Māori in the 1996.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300171149/tony-inanga-brown-vows-mori-will-bring-testlike-intensity-to-pasifika-game

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                            @Bovidae That’s pretty, also quite funny coming from Osborne too as he’s pretty fair himself.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Bovidae That’s pretty, also quite funny coming from Osborne too as he’s pretty fair himself.

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                              Machpants
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                              @Nepia said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                              @Bovidae That’s pretty, also quite funny coming from Osborne too as he’s pretty fair himself.

                              Not suffering from a hint of ginge tho

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                                Yeah, neither are quite as pale as Tito.

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                                  Yeah, neither are quite as pale as Tito.

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                                  Machpants
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                                  @Bovidae There are Scottish players not as pale as him!

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                                    @Bovidae There are Scottish players not as pale as him!

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                                    @Machpants said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                                    @Bovidae There are Scottish players not as pale as him!

                                    Well considering they'd have African-born players play for Scotland since the 1880s (James George Robertson) I'm not that surprised!

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      @Machpants said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                                      @Bovidae There are Scottish players not as pale as him!

                                      Well considering they'd have African-born players play for Scotland since the 1880s (James George Robertson) I'm not that surprised!

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                                      @nostrildamus said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                                      @Machpants said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

                                      @Bovidae There are Scottish players not as pale as him!

                                      Well considering they'd have African-born players play for Scotland since the 1880s (James George Robertson) I'm not that surprised!

                                      Note I said Scottish players, not Scotland internationals. Like James Lowe is an Irish International but he's not an Irish player 😉

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                                        ooh, subtle. Given that "Scottish' lot have Siberian blood (which explains their liking for husky types) I'm no so sure what "Scottish" means any more.
                                        https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/15/scotland-dna-study-project
                                        and given that Scotland allegedly means "land of the Irish"..
                                        http://history-ireland.blogspot.com/2013/08/scot-means-irish.html

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          ooh, subtle. Given that "Scottish' lot have Siberian blood (which explains their liking for husky types) I'm no so sure what "Scottish" means any more.
                                          https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/15/scotland-dna-study-project
                                          and given that Scotland allegedly means "land of the Irish"..
                                          http://history-ireland.blogspot.com/2013/08/scot-means-irish.html

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                                          Machpants
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                                          @nostrildamus Irish are pasty bastards too

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