Australia v India
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Justin Langer has declared Cameron Green will make his Test debut in Adelaide on Thursday as long as he has recovered fully from a concussion suffered while bowling at the SCG last Friday. The Australia coach said on Tuesday a final decision on who would open in the first Test against India not been made, although he ruled out any chance of Marnus Labuschagne being promoted to the top of the order. However, with the inclusion of Green it appears a middle order player will have to stand in as an opener and while he didn't confirm it would be Matthew Wade, Langer said the Tasmania captain would be able to handle the responsibility. Green's selection would mean either Joe Burns or Marcus Harris won't make the line-up at Adelaide Oval.I presume it will be Wade to open with Harris? Burns is in terrible form.
The other left field name that was suggested as an opener was Paine. Wade makes more sense.
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first test starts this arvo. Day/Night test should be fun.
Australia, for the top side in the world, have some serious issues. At this stage their opening bats look like being a converted keeper who averages 30, and a guy who dead set cannot buy a run.
They will be followed in by the guys expected to score the bulk of the runs (with some justification i might add, their records are ridiculous). The middle order is new or not great.
They are a team built on 4 fucking good bowlers, Smith, Loose Bus Change, and Warner (as long as the game is in Australia).
Right now, if an honest Trans Ta$man XI was put together, we are contributing a decent number of players.
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India only have Kohli for this test, so they really need to win it. Their attack has looked okay, but not great on tour so far. But they will be bloody dangerous at twilight.
Should be a bloody good game
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first test starts this arvo. Day/Night test should be fun.
Australia, for the top side in the world, have some serious issues. At this stage their opening bats look like being a converted keeper who averages 30, and a guy who dead set cannot buy a run.
They will be followed in by the guys expected to score the bulk of the runs (with some justification i might add, their records are ridiculous). The middle order is new or not great.
They are a team built on 4 fucking good bowlers, Smith, Loose Bus Change, and Warner (as long as the game is in Australia).
Right now, if an honest Trans Ta$man XI was put together, we are contributing a decent number of players.
@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
Right now, if an honest Trans Ta$man XI was put together, we are contributing a decent number of players.
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year.
Can't wait for this series, I'd expect us to have the edge overall but I can still vividly remember Bumrah and Pujara both killing us two years ago so an Indian win wouldn't shock me.
Have really missed Test cricket this year, will be great to have it back.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
Right now, if an honest Trans Ta$man XI was put together, we are contributing a decent number of players.
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year.
Can't wait for this series, I'd expect us to have the edge overall but I can still vividly remember Bumrah and Pujara both killing us two years ago so an Indian win wouldn't shock me.
Have really missed Test cricket this year, will be great to have it back.
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year.
Yes we did, but you can come over here next time then.
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Have really missed Test cricket this year, will be great to have it back.
and yes.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
Right now, if an honest Trans Ta$man XI was put together, we are contributing a decent number of players.
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year.
Can't wait for this series, I'd expect us to have the edge overall but I can still vividly remember Bumrah and Pujara both killing us two years ago so an Indian win wouldn't shock me.
Have really missed Test cricket this year, will be great to have it back.
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year
that's a fair comment, that tour was a fucking disgrace. And our low point over the past few years.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year.
Yes we did, but you can come over here next time then.
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Have really missed Test cricket this year, will be great to have it back.
and yes.
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year.
Yes we did, but you can come over here next time then.
Oh i hope we do, no idea why it's been so long since our last test over there. Always good battles.
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@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year.
Yes we did, but you can come over here next time then.
Oh i hope we do, no idea why it's been so long since our last test over there. Always good battles.
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year.
Yes we did, but you can come over here next time then.
Oh i hope we do, no idea why it's been so long since our last test over there. Always good battles.
because Aus, India, and England do what ever they want, and what Australia wants is to play at home all summer.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year
that's a fair comment, that tour was a fucking disgrace. And our low point over the past few years.
@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year
that's a fair comment, that tour was a fucking disgrace. And our low point over the past few years.
we shat the bed, but that doesn't mean individuals (particularly bowlers) didn't go well. We went in underdone, got crocked with heat and injuries, and just didn't manage to get out the Aussie top batsment. THings went downhill from there.
Wags bowled like a demon - consistently troubled Smith in his home conditions.
The 2015 tour Kane averaged 85, and Rosco 78 ... so that last tour probably isn't the most representative of our capabilities.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=10223;type=series
If you were combining, I'd be looking at Kane, Wags, and then maybe some of Rosco, Southee, Boult
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@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I struggle to agree with that after you guys totally shat the bed here last year
that's a fair comment, that tour was a fucking disgrace. And our low point over the past few years.
we shat the bed, but that doesn't mean individuals (particularly bowlers) didn't go well. We went in underdone, got crocked with heat and injuries, and just didn't manage to get out the Aussie top batsment. THings went downhill from there.
Wags bowled like a demon - consistently troubled Smith in his home conditions.
The 2015 tour Kane averaged 85, and Rosco 78 ... so that last tour probably isn't the most representative of our capabilities.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=10223;type=series
If you were combining, I'd be looking at Kane, Wags, and then maybe some of Rosco, Southee, Boult
@nzzp Latham would open
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but we would be lucky to get one in the attack. Maybe Boult over the inconsistent but rapid Starc.
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but we would be lucky to get one in the attack. Maybe Boult over the inconsistent but rapid Starc.
@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
but we would be lucky to get one in the attack. Maybe Boult over the inconsistent but rapid Starc.
Isn't Wags more likely to get in there as some variation as fourth seamer?
Best 4th seamer in the history of the game arguably
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@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
but we would be lucky to get one in the attack. Maybe Boult over the inconsistent but rapid Starc.
Isn't Wags more likely to get in there as some variation as fourth seamer?
Best 4th seamer in the history of the game arguably
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
but we would be lucky to get one in the attack. Maybe Boult over the inconsistent but rapid Starc.
Isn't Wags more likely to get in there as some variation as fourth seamer?
Best 4th seamer in the history of the game arguably
yeah. if, and it's a big if, we take a 4th seamer. You could argue Cummins bats well enough to push up to 7, but that's a stretch.
Actually BJ would definitely be in the conversation with paine as well. Paine is a stand in because they needed a skipper after Smith was unable to stop people being a bit naughty.
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I would think about having Fleming in there too.
@Crazy-Horse said in Australia v India:
I would think about having Fleming in there too.
fucking cantabs!!
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Just having a look at the Black Caps recent test match schedule.
Here's the last time they played the big 4 teams away from home and the results.
Australia - Dec 2019/Jan 2020 - lost
South Africa - Aug 2016 - lost
India - Sept/Oct 2016 - lost
England - May 2015 - drawn
Not so much the results (as almost all teams have struggled to win away from home in recent years) but the lack of tests away from home against the big guns is really telling.
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Just having a look at the Black Caps recent test match schedule.
Here's the last time they played the big 4 teams away from home and the results.
Australia - Dec 2019/Jan 2020 - lost
South Africa - Aug 2016 - lost
India - Sept/Oct 2016 - lost
England - May 2015 - drawn
Not so much the results (as almost all teams have struggled to win away from home in recent years) but the lack of tests away from home against the big guns is really telling.
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Just having a look at the Black Caps recent test match schedule.
Here's the last time they played the big 4 teams away from home and the results.
Australia - Dec 2019/Jan 2020 - lost
South Africa - Aug 2016 - lost
India - Sept/Oct 2016 - lost
England - May 2015 - drawn
Not so much the results (as almost all teams have struggled to win away from home in recent years) but the lack of tests away from home against the big guns is really telling.
very reflective of our history leading up to that though.
the fear is, by the time we get on the schedule, we lose to many good players, and get ditched back to the 2nd tier.
