Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?
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@steven-harris said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Hardly going to take being called the media arm of the Kremlin lying down, but isn't that what the media arm of the Kremlin would say?
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Dylan Cleaver
Silver Lake, the NZR stake & the media - a cautionary tale
https://dylancleaver.substack.com/p/silver-lake-the-nzr-stake-and-the
@mikedogz said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Dylan Cleaver
Silver Lake, the NZR stake & the media - a cautionary tale
https://dylancleaver.substack.com/p/silver-lake-the-nzr-stake-and-the
Good read. I've subscribed - will see how it goes
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@mikedogz said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Dylan Cleaver
Silver Lake, the NZR stake & the media - a cautionary tale
https://dylancleaver.substack.com/p/silver-lake-the-nzr-stake-and-the
Good read. I've subscribed - will see how it goes
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The Herald on Sunday understands Silver Lake's improved valuation for a 7.5 per cent stake was tabled after the Players' Association officially outlined its intent to not support the 12.5 per cent sale proposal three weeks ago, sparking rumours the deal was dead.
While extracting a higher valuation for a lower sale stake lessens the risks and retains more revenue, reducing the capital injection has the potential to leave the New Zealand game exposed in a fraught Covid-affected climate.
After receiving Silver Lake's improved offer, however, the Players' Association is understood to have responded with a set of conditions to ensure what they believe is a "genuine partnership".
Those conditions include the request for an independent NZ Rugby governance review that assesses the constitution, striking at the heart of the provincial union's control, and whether the existing structure is fit for purpose.
This request comes after attacks on the players by former NZ Rugby chairman Brent Impey, the breakdown of the relationship with Australia and with a view to being fully equipped to work alongside heavyweight global businessess
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A bit of news from one of Dylan Cleavers free emails I get.
Public ownership is back on the table: How the Silver Lake deal has taken a dramatic turn
American private equity giants Silver Lake remain committed to taking a stake in New Zealand Rugby, but the deal that emerges could be unrecognisable to that originally proposed - including the potential for a bond issue instead of equity, and public ownership of the All Blacks.
While the deal has stretched into one of the country’s most prolonged (and important) sporting sagas, The Bounce has learned that talks have taken a radical twist in the past month, particularly since the Players’ Association (NZRPA) and Silver Lake have started talking directly.
While the framework of the negotiations remains sensitive, it is understood that rather than have New Zealand Rugby relay the concerns of the NZRPA to Silver Lake, the latter two parties have actively engaged each other to find a way through what was threatening to become an impasse.
These talks are believed to have raised two distinct and intriguing possibilities.
Rather than buy a stake in New Zealand Rugby (via a subsidiary company that would handle all of NZR’s commercial arrangements), they could invest capital valued at five percent of the company through a bond issue, which could mature into equity if certain targets are met.
The other notable conversation is the potential for a public share offering of up to five percent of NZR’s valuation.
This idea was originally nixed by NZR but Silver Lake are thought to be attracted by the idea as it would give them an obvious exit strategy if needed and, also, it increases the branding and marketing potential of the All Blacks as the “people’s team”.
Silver Lake have never made their position public on any potential deal and a source familiar with the thinking of both NZR and NZRPA said there was still a lot to happen before anything was put in front of the board for signoff.
What it does call into question, however, is the merits of the original deal passed at this year’s AGM, which would have seen Silver Lake take a 12.5 percent stake in New Zealand Rugby based on a $3.1 billion valuation - a valuation that is understood to have increased significantly within the terms of the latest proposals.
At the time, the equity stake was sold to the 26 provincial unions and Maori Rugby (and the public) as not only the best, but the only, option.
According to sources, many of rugby’s auxiliary stakeholders, including talent management firms and broadcasters, are increasingly keen on a reshaped Silver Lake deal, believing PE could give the sport here a timely boost.
The negotiations are reaching the pointy end at a time when the world is seemingly awash with money that is looking for a home in sports, with PE firms believing the entire sector is under-capitalised and lacking the sort of capability they can offer.
This week, CVC Capital Partners made another enormous splash in the Sportotainment world. The Luxembourg-based private equity company, who once owned Formula One and are now heavily invested in European rugby and more recently Spanish football’s premier football competition La Liga - although glamour clubs Barcelona and real Madrid opposed the deal and opted out - took a stake in one of two Indian Premier League franchises available.
CVC bid US$692 million (just shy of NZ$1 billion) to place a franchise in Ahmedabad, home to the newly renovated Narendra Modi Stadium, which at 132,000 capacity, is the largest cricket stadium in the world. A second franchise, to be based in Lucknow, went for a whopping US$932 million.
Neither Silver Lake nor CVC started with the intention of using sport as big investment vehicles - Silver Lake started in the midst of the dotcom boom and tech was its focus - but it is a measure of how much growth they see available in the sector that they continue to invest with eye-popping numbers.
It’s also why Silver Lake is not going anywhere. A deal will be done
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@steven-harris said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Hardly going to take being called the media arm of the Kremlin lying down, but isn't that what the media arm of the Kremlin would say?
@kirwan said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@steven-harris said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Hardly going to take being called the media arm of the Kremlin lying down, but isn't that what the media arm of the Kremlin would say?
They hardly need to be told what / what not to say, though? They can just look at a guy like Mexted, or anyone else who has been critical, and connect the dots.
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@kirwan said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@steven-harris said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Hardly going to take being called the media arm of the Kremlin lying down, but isn't that what the media arm of the Kremlin would say?
They hardly need to be told what / what not to say, though? They can just look at a guy like Mexted, or anyone else who has been critical, and connect the dots.
@junior said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@kirwan said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@steven-harris said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Hardly going to take being called the media arm of the Kremlin lying down, but isn't that what the media arm of the Kremlin would say?
They hardly need to be told what / what not to say, though? They can just look at a guy like Mexted, or anyone else who has been critical, and connect the dots.
Exactly. And their coverage was poorer for it.
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@bovidae This goes to show how gullible our administrators are. NZR have sold them a turkey. As the Gregor Paul article says, Silver Lake offered no particular expertise. That said, then this just becomes a finance deal in return for ownership. That is always the most expensive form of finance. If they believe they can grow the revenue base then borrow the money. Everyone thinks they can transfer risk with contracts. Public Private Partnership anyone? Always end up in a clusterfuck unless one party is dumb enough to get screwed…NZR.
Mark Robinson (MBA Graduate I presume) just never comes across well and along with Impey their behaviour in this episode has been appalling. Trying to railroad the proposal, and dismissing opposition with derogatory remarks. This is a public asset with multiple stakeholders. Stop behaving like assholes.
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The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
It was a deal that screamed short-term fix, which was underlined when the greatest advocates of short-termism, the provincial unions, voted unanimously to jump into bed with Silver Lake and cuddle up one hand each on the family silver between them.
The unions were promised a windfall when the deal went through and – with their pokies money drying up, sponsorships shrinking and crowds dwindling – of course they said yes to Silver Lake's cash, deaf to the dissenting voice of the Rugby Players' Association (RPA) which was asking pertinent questions about the longer-term implications of a deal that had no performance measures nor a defined exit strategy and no detail on how the US firm was going to double the revenue as it was forecasting.
Former NZR chairman Brent Impey famously said the professional players would be scoring an own goal if they didn't support the transaction, saying the $3.1bn valuation placed on the business was unprecedented in the field of private equity investment in sport and an unbeatable deal.
It appeared to be all part of a narrative pushed by NZR to paint the RPA as greedy and self-interested in blocking the original deal, because that's what happens in the post Trump-era – those who perceive they hold absolute power rely on a suite of tricks such as pejorative and bombastic statements and accentuating the fear of missing out to wield it.
Four months on and Silver Lake, who have since July been communicating directly with the RPA, have radically reshaped the deal from a smash-and-grab raid to one that could potentially have significant long-term benefits. They have upped their evaluation – believed now to be $3.6bn – are willing to take just a 7.5 per cent stake, with a timeline and mechanism to trigger their exit having been discussed.
The greatest own goal in the history of sport would in fact have been agreeing to the supposed deal of a lifetime that NZR were pushing back in April.
Short-termism is such a powerful movement, however, that the provincial union chairs were in Wellington this week, pitchforks in hand and burning effigies of RPA boss Rob Nichol, demanding to know from the NZR where their Silver Lake deal (cash) is.
The questions they should be asking are why this new, better deal wasn't on the table back in April and what sort of advice are NZR receiving from their investment bank advisers, Jefferies, who, it is believed, stand to make $6m if agreement is reached with Silver Lake.
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The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
It was a deal that screamed short-term fix, which was underlined when the greatest advocates of short-termism, the provincial unions, voted unanimously to jump into bed with Silver Lake and cuddle up one hand each on the family silver between them.
The unions were promised a windfall when the deal went through and – with their pokies money drying up, sponsorships shrinking and crowds dwindling – of course they said yes to Silver Lake's cash, deaf to the dissenting voice of the Rugby Players' Association (RPA) which was asking pertinent questions about the longer-term implications of a deal that had no performance measures nor a defined exit strategy and no detail on how the US firm was going to double the revenue as it was forecasting.
Former NZR chairman Brent Impey famously said the professional players would be scoring an own goal if they didn't support the transaction, saying the $3.1bn valuation placed on the business was unprecedented in the field of private equity investment in sport and an unbeatable deal.
It appeared to be all part of a narrative pushed by NZR to paint the RPA as greedy and self-interested in blocking the original deal, because that's what happens in the post Trump-era – those who perceive they hold absolute power rely on a suite of tricks such as pejorative and bombastic statements and accentuating the fear of missing out to wield it.
Four months on and Silver Lake, who have since July been communicating directly with the RPA, have radically reshaped the deal from a smash-and-grab raid to one that could potentially have significant long-term benefits. They have upped their evaluation – believed now to be $3.6bn – are willing to take just a 7.5 per cent stake, with a timeline and mechanism to trigger their exit having been discussed.
The greatest own goal in the history of sport would in fact have been agreeing to the supposed deal of a lifetime that NZR were pushing back in April.
Short-termism is such a powerful movement, however, that the provincial union chairs were in Wellington this week, pitchforks in hand and burning effigies of RPA boss Rob Nichol, demanding to know from the NZR where their Silver Lake deal (cash) is.
The questions they should be asking are why this new, better deal wasn't on the table back in April and what sort of advice are NZR receiving from their investment bank advisers, Jefferies, who, it is believed, stand to make $6m if agreement is reached with Silver Lake.
The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
Who wrote the report and what was their agenda?
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The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
Who wrote the report and what was their agenda?
@booboo said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
Who wrote the report and what was their agenda?
I don't want people thinking I'm supportive of the Silver Lake deal, but was that report written by someone that does covid-19 or treasury modelling..?
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The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
It was a deal that screamed short-term fix, which was underlined when the greatest advocates of short-termism, the provincial unions, voted unanimously to jump into bed with Silver Lake and cuddle up one hand each on the family silver between them.
The unions were promised a windfall when the deal went through and – with their pokies money drying up, sponsorships shrinking and crowds dwindling – of course they said yes to Silver Lake's cash, deaf to the dissenting voice of the Rugby Players' Association (RPA) which was asking pertinent questions about the longer-term implications of a deal that had no performance measures nor a defined exit strategy and no detail on how the US firm was going to double the revenue as it was forecasting.
Former NZR chairman Brent Impey famously said the professional players would be scoring an own goal if they didn't support the transaction, saying the $3.1bn valuation placed on the business was unprecedented in the field of private equity investment in sport and an unbeatable deal.
It appeared to be all part of a narrative pushed by NZR to paint the RPA as greedy and self-interested in blocking the original deal, because that's what happens in the post Trump-era – those who perceive they hold absolute power rely on a suite of tricks such as pejorative and bombastic statements and accentuating the fear of missing out to wield it.
Four months on and Silver Lake, who have since July been communicating directly with the RPA, have radically reshaped the deal from a smash-and-grab raid to one that could potentially have significant long-term benefits. They have upped their evaluation – believed now to be $3.6bn – are willing to take just a 7.5 per cent stake, with a timeline and mechanism to trigger their exit having been discussed.
The greatest own goal in the history of sport would in fact have been agreeing to the supposed deal of a lifetime that NZR were pushing back in April.
Short-termism is such a powerful movement, however, that the provincial union chairs were in Wellington this week, pitchforks in hand and burning effigies of RPA boss Rob Nichol, demanding to know from the NZR where their Silver Lake deal (cash) is.
The questions they should be asking are why this new, better deal wasn't on the table back in April and what sort of advice are NZR receiving from their investment bank advisers, Jefferies, who, it is believed, stand to make $6m if agreement is reached with Silver Lake.
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The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
Who wrote the report and what was their agenda?
@booboo said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
Who wrote the report and what was their agenda?
I think that was the NZRPA commissioned report. That's why they were so against it, their pencil necks said it was a very hard deal with no guarantees. Just a 'we'll double your income'. That's it
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@booboo said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
Who wrote the report and what was their agenda?
I think that was the NZRPA commissioned report. That's why they were so against it, their pencil necks said it was a very hard deal with no guarantees. Just a 'we'll double your income'. That's it
@machpants said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@booboo said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
Who wrote the report and what was their agenda?
I think that was the NZRPA commissioned report. That's why they were so against it, their pencil necks said it was a very hard deal with no guarantees. Just a 'we'll double your income'. That's it
It was a smash and grab deal by a bunch of investment Bankers. Those guys are never your friends. Mark Robinson, Brent Impey blinded by money up front (chump change for those guys) just bought into the narrative of we need investment and sold the Unions a pup. The Bankers eliminated their downside risk, talked up their market contacts but NZR were taking all the risk - that’s not investment that’s just Finance.
What you can’t forgive is their arrogance in presenting it as a done deal as if they were saving NZ Rugby ( we are the heroes ) and dismissing opposition. This is the same way NZRFU treated Australian over Super rugby - the Aussies just gave them the finger.
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@machpants said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@booboo said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
The Herald was leaked a report which showed that had NZR taken that deal with Silver Lake as it stood in April, they would most likely be running at an operating loss by 2025 and living off the investment returns of their cash reserves.
Who wrote the report and what was their agenda?
I think that was the NZRPA commissioned report. That's why they were so against it, their pencil necks said it was a very hard deal with no guarantees. Just a 'we'll double your income'. That's it
It was a smash and grab deal by a bunch of investment Bankers. Those guys are never your friends. Mark Robinson, Brent Impey blinded by money up front (chump change for those guys) just bought into the narrative of we need investment and sold the Unions a pup. The Bankers eliminated their downside risk, talked up their market contacts but NZR were taking all the risk - that’s not investment that’s just Finance.
What you can’t forgive is their arrogance in presenting it as a done deal as if they were saving NZ Rugby ( we are the heroes ) and dismissing opposition. This is the same way NZRFU treated Australian over Super rugby - the Aussies just gave them the finger.
@kev Can't say I've followed this deal closely - but, when you look how poorly NZR performs in comparatively simple things like running fair and balanced competitions, I have zero faith in them not being taken to the cleaners by Silver Lake.
As you point out - their Super rugby negotiations with the Aussies are a glaring example - but, I've been nominated for a broken record for criticising a variety of others.
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@machpants said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300485991/nz-rugby-light-at-end-of-tunnel-for-silver-lake-deal
Um maybe, now there maybe light at the end of the tunnel
