All Blacks 2021
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i honestly dont know if BB walks back into the teams. The other have all been playing against/with each other and so we have a good gauge
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@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again but they won't start without him so I doubt they'd start BB at 15. Then again I've been wrong before, I mean I wanted a Crusader to coach the ABs, what was I thinking!?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again but they won't start without him so I doubt they'd start BB at 15. Then again I've been wrong before, I mean I wanted a Crusader to coach the ABs, what was I thinking!?
Did you hear Razor on tv last night? He apparently talking to NZR and reckons if it works he will be staying with Crusaders for another couple of years. Seems maybe he in line for ABs then, if not before?
On the JB thing, I suspect he will be at 15 , Jordan on wing (which is where he is better I think). Could be DMac at 15 but I reckon you'll see them both there at some stage this year , and RMo and BB sharing 10. -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again but they won't start without him so I doubt they'd start BB at 15. Then again I've been wrong before, I mean I wanted a Crusader to coach the ABs, what was I thinking!?
Did you hear Razor on tv last night? He apparently talking to NZR and reckons if it works he will be staying with Crusaders for another couple of years. Seems maybe he in line for ABs then, if not before?
On the JB thing, I suspect he will be at 15 , Jordan on wing (which is where he is better I think). Could be DMac at 15 but I reckon you'll see them both there at some stage this year , and RMo and BB sharing 10.@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again but they won't start without him so I doubt they'd start BB at 15. Then again I've been wrong before, I mean I wanted a Crusader to coach the ABs, what was I thinking!?
Did you hear Razor on tv last night? He apparently talking to NZR and reckons if it works he will be staying with Crusaders for another couple of years. Seems maybe he in line for ABs then, if not before?
On the JB thing, I suspect he will be at 15 , Jordan on wing (which is where he is better I think). Could be DMac at 15 but I reckon you'll see them both there at some stage this year , and RMo and BB sharing 10.I don't get to live in NZ or watch NZ tv news any more. I'm not worthy..
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again
I found a still from his last test there
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again
I found a still from his last test there
you say still, I say live footage.
Regardless, what an ass. -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again but they won't start without him so I doubt they'd start BB at 15. Then again I've been wrong before, I mean I wanted a Crusader to coach the ABs, what was I thinking!?
Did you hear Razor on tv last night? He apparently talking to NZR and reckons if it works he will be staying with Crusaders for another couple of years. Seems maybe he in line for ABs then, if not before?
On the JB thing, I suspect he will be at 15 , Jordan on wing (which is where he is better I think). Could be DMac at 15 but I reckon you'll see them both there at some stage this year , and RMo and BB sharing 10.@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
Did you hear Razor on tv last night? He apparently talking to NZR and reckons if it works he will be staying with Crusaders for another couple of years. Seems maybe he in line for ABs then, if not before?
not sure that sounds that great TBH, so he is staying with the 'saders, meaning Fozzie stays at the helm for the ABs?
That said, Fozzie is surely checking into the last chance saloon and has to hit the field running, well, his team need to if he wants to keep his job, surely...I really hope there is nothing signed until at least Aug/Sep.
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@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
Did you hear Razor on tv last night? He apparently talking to NZR and reckons if it works he will be staying with Crusaders for another couple of years. Seems maybe he in line for ABs then, if not before?
not sure that sounds that great TBH, so he is staying with the 'saders, meaning Fozzie stays at the helm for the ABs?
That said, Fozzie is surely checking into the last chance saloon and has to hit the field running, well, his team need to if he wants to keep his job, surely...I really hope there is nothing signed until at least Aug/Sep.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
That said, Fozzie is surely checking into the last chance saloon and has to hit the field running
Not sure I'd like to see that. But just to defend Fozzie, he's been what I expected.
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What I'd select
A Smith
Beauden
Clarke
Jordie
ALB
Rieko
JordanMo'unga and DMac on the bench to rip shit up against a tired defense.
Unstoppable.
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@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again but they won't start without him so I doubt they'd start BB at 15. Then again I've been wrong before, I mean I wanted a Crusader to coach the ABs, what was I thinking!?
Did you hear Razor on tv last night? He apparently talking to NZR and reckons if it works he will be staying with Crusaders for another couple of years. Seems maybe he in line for ABs then, if not before?
On the JB thing, I suspect he will be at 15 , Jordan on wing (which is where he is better I think). Could be DMac at 15 but I reckon you'll see them both there at some stage this year , and RMo and BB sharing 10.I don't get to live in NZ or watch NZ tv news any more. I'm not worthy..
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris-b i can see your line of argument but I don't think they will put JB at wing again but they won't start without him so I doubt they'd start BB at 15. Then again I've been wrong before, I mean I wanted a Crusader to coach the ABs, what was I thinking!?
Did you hear Razor on tv last night? He apparently talking to NZR and reckons if it works he will be staying with Crusaders for another couple of years. Seems maybe he in line for ABs then, if not before?
On the JB thing, I suspect he will be at 15 , Jordan on wing (which is where he is better I think). Could be DMac at 15 but I reckon you'll see them both there at some stage this year , and RMo and BB sharing 10.I don't get to live in NZ or watch NZ tv news any more. I'm not worthy..
:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: Fair enough mate, I came back so I could keep up with things, fingers on pulse etc:face_with_tongue: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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What I'd select
A Smith
Beauden
Clarke
Jordie
ALB
Rieko
JordanMo'unga and DMac on the bench to rip shit up against a tired defense.
Unstoppable.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
What I'd select
A Smith
Beauden
Clarke
Jordie
ALB
Rieko
JordanMo'unga and DMac on the bench to rip shit up against a tired defense.
Unstoppable.
Trouble is that I don’t see a creator in there. Lots of Players that can create something from nothing if given the opportunity and a bit of luck but not someone that creates opportunities against organised defence.
RM is the closest we have to that then DMac because of the way he changes up the picture chiming in from the back. -
What I'd select
A Smith
Beauden
Clarke
Jordie
ALB
Rieko
JordanMo'unga and DMac on the bench to rip shit up against a tired defense.
Unstoppable.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
What I'd select
A Smith
Beauden
Clarke
Jordie
ALB
Rieko
JordanMo'unga and DMac on the bench to rip shit up against a tired defense.
Unstoppable.
I don't mind your starting XV, but not for the first up tests.
Beaudy's gone off to Japan to tout his wares, so he can bide his time. I'm of the opinion that Richie is a better first five now anyway - but, it's hard to be definitive. I haven't seen Beaudy play there for a significant period for a couple of years.
I definitely think Jordie could be our best 12 - but, he hasn't played there for several years, so I don't think he warrants the experiment unless the Canes are willing to shift him for the Trans- Ta$man stuff.
Will Jordan on the right wing.
To be honest, only Aaron Smith is locked in. ALB will be in the XV, but could be 12 or 13.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
What I'd select
A Smith
Beauden
Clarke
Jordie
ALB
Rieko
JordanMo'unga and DMac on the bench to rip shit up against a tired defense.
Unstoppable.
Trouble is that I don’t see a creator in there. Lots of Players that can create something from nothing if given the opportunity and a bit of luck but not someone that creates opportunities against organised defence.
RM is the closest we have to that then DMac because of the way he changes up the picture chiming in from the back.@crucial said in All Blacks 2021:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
What I'd select
A Smith
Beauden
Clarke
Jordie
ALB
Rieko
JordanMo'unga and DMac on the bench to rip shit up against a tired defense.
Unstoppable.
Trouble is that I don’t see a creator in there. Lots of Players that can create something from nothing if given the opportunity and a bit of luck but not someone that creates opportunities against organised defence.
RM is the closest we have to that then DMac because of the way he changes up the picture chiming in from the back.LOL RM and DMac both have a history of shitting the bed against an organised defense. No way are they "creators", we haven't had one of those since Carter and Cruden were at the helm.
Both those guys are best suited to the bench at test level.
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Anyone reckon Pita Gus Sowakula has a chance of a call-up?
He's looked bloody good when he has come on for the Chiefs.@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
Anyone reckon Pita Gus Sowakula has a chance of a call-up?
He's looked bloody good when he has come on for the Chiefs.I think he would be worth a look but the loose forward market is quite crowded. Those currently in form, those identified last year and those that have been injured.
If we want a big man to get over the gain line off the scrum he's an option -
Anyone reckon Pita Gus Sowakula has a chance of a call-up?
He's looked bloody good when he has come on for the Chiefs. -
All Black Fans: Stop playing people out of position!!!
Also All Black Fans: Put Jordie Barrett at 12!!!
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
All Black Fans: Stop playing people out of position!!!
Also All Black Fans: Put Jordie Barrett at 12!!!
There's a lot of truth to that, mainly in hindsight when we think about the likes of Cullen and MacDonald at 13 etc, but there is also a case to be made for giving J Barrett a crack at 12. I'd like to see it tried in a lesser test say against Fiji or Italy and if he's convincing then he gets a go in a bigger test.
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@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
Anyone reckon Pita Gus Sowakula has a chance of a call-up?
He's looked bloody good when he has come on for the Chiefs.Nope, he's looked good in maybe two games this season. That is all.
@nepia said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
Anyone reckon Pita Gus Sowakula has a chance of a call-up?
He's looked bloody good when he has come on for the Chiefs.Nope, he's looked good in maybe two games this season. That is all.
He had a pre-season injury and his early appearances were getting back up to speed. Since then he has been very good. A good test tonight. Let's see how in goes in an unusual position against a top team and under pressure. That will be a true indicator.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
All Black Fans: Stop playing people out of position!!!
Also All Black Fans: Put Jordie Barrett at 12!!!
There's a lot of truth to that, mainly in hindsight when we think about the likes of Cullen and MacDonald at 13 etc, but there is also a case to be made for giving J Barrett a crack at 12. I'd like to see it tried in a lesser test say against Fiji or Italy and if he's convincing then he gets a go in a bigger test.
