All Blacks 2021
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
he’s relatively new to rugby
Hmmm... you sure about that?
Not as sure as I was!
Must be my reading some bad intel or getting things mixed up, as I was pretty confident, but a quick google shows he gave up rugby for basketball after already being an academy player, rather than being into Basketball through high school (and therefore having a lot more to learn).
@gt12 he was a talented high school baller nonetheless.
A few highlights here
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
If we look at this and think about where we'd be with SL if we had such a result, what do we imagine is likely to happen?
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
If we look at this and think about where we'd be with SL if we had such a result, what do we imagine is likely to happen?
The immediate effect would have been to turn a $34m loss into a $51m one. 50% growth! :face_vomiting:
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The tight five selections for the next squad seem pretty locked in now (Moody is out), except for 3rd tight head prop.
Props
Karl Tu'inukuafe
Aidan Ross
Alex Hodgman
Nepo Laulala
Ofa Tu'ungafasi
?Hookers
Codie Taylor
Dane Coles
Asafo AumuaLocks
Sam Whitelock
Brodie Retallick
Patrick Tuipulotu
Scott BarrettTrain with the team:
Tamaiti Williams
Samisoni Taukei'aho
Tupou Vaa'i@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
The tight five selections for the next squad seem pretty locked in now (Moody is out), except for 3rd tight head prop.
Props
Karl Tu'inukuafe
Aidan Ross
Alex Hodgman
Nepo Laulala
Ofa Tu'ungafasi
?Second best TH scrummager in NZ is Mafileo. I'd be quite pleased to have him and Nepo with Lomax or Ta'avao as third TH, and play Karl T, Ross and Ofa at LH. Blues and Chiefs have had most impressive scrums recently.
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@duluth If he has been a bit injured all season then that would explain the drop off in his performance. Agree that Patrick Tuipulotu looked sharp yesterday. Worth his place in the squad if fully fit. If not there's Vaii or PPP.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
@duluth If he has been a bit injured all season then that would explain the drop off in his performance. Agree that Patrick Tuipulotu looked sharp yesterday. Worth his place in the squad if fully fit. If not there's Vaii or PPP.
Not sure if numbers will permit, but I'd like to see both PPP and Vaa'i in wider training squad.
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I wonder whether the likes of Codie Taylor, Sam Whitelock and Aaron Smith really need to be involved in the forthcoming Tonga and Fiji tests. All have played big minutes in Super Rugby this year. I'd rather give them some recuperation time so that they are good to go for the Rugby Championship and the October/November tests in Europe.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
@duluth If he has been a bit injured all season then that would explain the drop off in his performance. Agree that Patrick Tuipulotu looked sharp yesterday. Worth his place in the squad if fully fit. If not there's Vaii or PPP.
Not sure if numbers will permit, but I'd like to see both PPP and Vaa'i in wider training squad.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
@duluth If he has been a bit injured all season then that would explain the drop off in his performance. Agree that Patrick Tuipulotu looked sharp yesterday. Worth his place in the squad if fully fit. If not there's Vaii or PPP.
Not sure if numbers will permit, but I'd like to see both PPP and Vaa'i in wider training squad.
I wouldn't be surprised to see 5 locks named in the main squad with some rotation in the home tests. Parkinson will get to impress via the Maori. Lomax could also be part of that squad to guarantee playing time.
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Ennor.... seriously can anyone explain what he brings to the table? Hasn't he only even played one game?
Hunt, struggles with consistency at super level, I'd be very worried about him at test level.
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I wonder whether the likes of Codie Taylor, Sam Whitelock and Aaron Smith really need to be involved in the forthcoming Tonga and Fiji tests. All have played big minutes in Super Rugby this year. I'd rather give them some recuperation time so that they are good to go for the Rugby Championship and the October/November tests in Europe.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder whether the likes of Codie Taylor, Sam Whitelock and Aaron Smith really need to be involved in the forthcoming Tonga and Fiji tests. All have played big minutes in Super Rugby this year. I'd rather give them some recuperation time so that they are good to go for the Rugby Championship and the October/November tests in Europe.
Yeah I agree. This is the perfect time to blood young talent.
And it may make the games slightly fairer...
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I like ennor (not claiming he should be an AB yet), sometimes i wonder if he suffers from being the crusaders, he might stand out a bit more in one of the other teams
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@gt12 haha yeah I played with and was coached by his dad, Fritz and Salesi were down running around at most 7s trainings in the summer, fair to say they lived rugby!
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 haha yeah I played with and was coached by his dad, Fritz and Salesi were down running around at most 7s trainings in the summer, fair to say they lived rugby!
I remember he turned out for Scotland in a bowl final at a 7s tournament many years ago after Fiji had been eliminated. What the fuck was up with the rules in those days ?
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 haha yeah I played with and was coached by his dad, Fritz and Salesi were down running around at most 7s trainings in the summer, fair to say they lived rugby!
I remember he turned out for Scotland in a bowl final at a 7s tournament many years ago after Fiji had been eliminated. What the fuck was up with the rules in those days ?
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@mn5 There is a South American somewhere with a sevens world championship medal won with NZ. Uruguayan I think.
@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 There is a South American somewhere with a sevens world championship medal won with NZ. Uruguayan I think.
And Scott (can’t remember surname) ex NZ 7s coach debuted for a team other than NZ in welly, back in the day. No one cared as long as you got a team together!
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@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 There is a South American somewhere with a sevens world championship medal won with NZ. Uruguayan I think.
And Scott (can’t remember surname) ex NZ 7s coach debuted for a team other than NZ in welly, back in the day. No one cared as long as you got a team together!
@machpants Scott Waldrom?
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@mn5 There is a South American somewhere with a sevens world championship medal won with NZ. Uruguayan I think.
@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 There is a South American somewhere with a sevens world championship medal won with NZ. Uruguayan I think.
The year we had Cullen and Lomu in the same team at the HK Sevens that there was this bizarre rule that you could select one player from a losing quarterfinalist side.
We chose Stephen Brink of South Africa, and there he was sitting on the bench wearing a black jersey.The Uruguayan's name is Benjamin Bono.
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@bones Yeah never been on the Ennor bandwagon myself. Think a few solid domestic seasons is what he needs.
@african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones Yeah never been on the Ennor bandwagon myself. Think a few solid domestic seasons is what he needs.
Depending on what they are looking for from the 4th midfielder, he could make it as they know him. So, assuming ALB, Havili, and Roane are locked in, do they want another ‘true’ midfielder (PUJ) or another center 3/4 (Ennor). With Ioane there I’m not sure there is the space for Ennor. I think he competes with Ioane for that spot and right now could use more time at NPC to get some more game time.
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I like ennor (not claiming he should be an AB yet), sometimes i wonder if he suffers from being the crusaders, he might stand out a bit more in one of the other teams
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
I like ennor (not claiming he should be an AB yet), sometimes i wonder if he suffers from being the crusaders, he might stand out a bit more in one of the other teams
I reckon it's the opposite. He's a good player but there is an assumption that if the Crusaders selected him then he must be really good. Plus the fact tat it is easier to shine in a good team.
I don't see him offering anything head and shoulders above others.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
I like ennor (not claiming he should be an AB yet), sometimes i wonder if he suffers from being the crusaders, he might stand out a bit more in one of the other teams
I reckon it's the opposite. He's a good player but there is an assumption that if the Crusaders selected him then he must be really good. Plus the fact tat it is easier to shine in a good team.
I don't see him offering anything head and shoulders above others.
He's like ALB when ALB is playing averagely.@crucial yeah, could be that too, would like to see him for someone else to see
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If only there were heaps of top quality Fijians playing in a local professional competition they could select. Instead of traversing the globe during a pandemic.
Oh, wait, there are 11 born and bred Fijians already playing Super Rugby TT.
Oh, double wait. They've been central-contracterised.
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Although 8 of the 11 are wingers, so couldn't form a good team out of them, still.
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If only there were heaps of top quality Fijians playing in a local professional competition they could select. Instead of traversing the globe during a pandemic.
Oh, wait, there are 11 born and bred Fijians already playing Super Rugby TT.
Oh, double wait. They've been central-contracterised.
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Although 8 of the 11 are wingers, so couldn't form a good team out of them, still.
