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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Has the positive effect - if there was any - of the 2019 RWC faded in Japan?

    https://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/1590338134277259264

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      https://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/1588496415999012866

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      #151

      @Stargazer said in Japanese Rugby:

      https://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/1588496415999012866

      Need a bit of context though, looking at their squad on wiki - that Panasonic missing 7 players in Japanese touring squad and 2 players in the Springboks squad.

      Reds would also be missing players though, of course

      Are the Reds crap or good, though? I guess I should know that, but I don't watch. In the context that Panasonic are champions of their league.

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      • StargazerS Offline
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        Oh oh. This is the club Augustine Pulu, Simon Hickey and TJ Faiane play for. Faiane was already sitting out a 4-week suspension for a high tackle with head and neck contact, the past few weeks.

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/japanese-club-plunged-into-scandal-over-bar-incident/

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          #153

          Japan League One - NZ player* transfers ahead of the 2023/2024 season

          (as officially announced by the clubs)

          Players leaving their club/retiring
          Ash Parker (Hino Red Dolphins)
          TJ Faiane (Hino Red Dolphins)
          Ryan Crotty (Kubota Spears Funabashi/Tokyo Bay)
          Beaudein Waaka (Kobelco Kobe Steelers)
          Alapati Leiua (Shizuoka Blue Revs)
          Male Sa'u (Toyota Verblitz)
          Michael Allardice (Toyota Verblitz)
          Jamie Henry (Toyota Verblitz)
          Sam Chongkit (Mitsubishi Sagamihara Dynaboars)
          Heiden Bedwell-Curtis (Mitsubishi Sagamihara Dynaboars)
          Dylan Nel (Mitsubishi Sagamihara Dynaboars) ➡ to Southland
          Tom Rowe (Kyushu Electric Kyuden Voltex)
          Matt Todd (Toshiba Brave Lupus Tokyo)
          Jack Stratton (Toshiba Brave Lupus Tokyo)
          Tom Taylor (Toshiba Brave Lupus Tokyo)
          George Risale (NEC Green Rockets Tokatsu)
          Whetu Douglas (NEC Green Rockets Tokatsu)
          Kaleb Trask (Mie Honda Heat) ➡ to Chiefs
          Yeremia Mataena (Hanazono Kintetsu Liners)
          Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa (Hanazono Kintetsu Liners)
          Sam Caird (Hanazono Kintetsu Liners)
          Jackson Garden-Bachop (Hanazono Kintetsu Liners) ➡ to Brive
          Rob Thompson (Toyota Verblitz)
          Tom Sanders (Tokyo Sungoliath)
          Blake Gibson (Tokyo Sungoliath)
          Aaron Cruden (Tokyo Sungoliath)
          Tevita Li (Tokyo Sungoliath)


          Players staying**
          ..

          Players signed
          Aaron Smith (Toyota Verblitz)
          Beauden Barrett (Toyota Verblitz)
          Brodie Retallick (Kobe Steelers)
          Jacob Abel (Mazda Sky Actives Hiroshima)
          Joseph Domoni (Kintetsu Liners)
          Charles Piutau (Shizuoka Blue Revs)


          Coaches leaving their club
          Grant Keenan (Hino Red Dolphins)
          Aland Soakai (Kubota Spears Funabashi/Tokyo Bay)
          Mose Tuiali'i (Shizuoka Blue Revs)
          Carl Hoeft (Mitsubishi Sagamihara Dynaboars)
          Shaun Webb (Mitsubishi Sagamihara Dynaboars)
          Deane Lutton (Kamaishi Seawaves)
          Robert Taylor (NEC Green Rockets Tokatsu)
          Tai Lavea (Kobe Kobelco Steelers)
          Jason O'Halloran (Tokyo Sungoliath)


          Coaches staying**
          ..

          Coaches appointed
          Dave Rennie - Head Coach (Kobe Kobelco Steelers)
          Wes Clarke - Assistanc Coach (Defence) (Kobe Kobelco Steelers)
          Phil Healey - Head Athletic Performance Coach (Kobe Kobelco Steelers)


          *may include non-NZ players who've - for example - played NPC
          **the "staying" group is usuall small on this list, because Japanese clubs never seem to publish contract durations and rarely re-signings

          updated 31 May 2023

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          • StargazerS Offline
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            #154

            Many of the players leaving their club will probably just move to another Japanese club. They will not necessarily come back to NZ.

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              #155

              https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2023/12/6cdd331ff885-rugby-japan-hooker-horie-to-retire-at-end-of-new-season.html

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              • StargazerS Offline
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                #156

                By the way, Japan Rugby League One starts this weekend and it looks we won't be able to watch it in NZ (legally). Just like the Top 14, nobody seems to have the rights to broadcast/stream the competition in NZ or they don't use those rights to broadcast or stream it.

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                • StargazerS Offline
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                  #157

                  Kobelco Kobe Steelers just beat Honda Heat 80 to 15.
                  Both Retallick and Savea scored two tries.
                  Don't understand Japanese, but I think Retallick was named man of the match.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    Kobelco Kobe Steelers just beat Honda Heat 80 to 15.
                    Both Retallick and Savea scored two tries.
                    Don't understand Japanese, but I think Retallick was named man of the match.

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                    #158

                    @Stargazer I am assuming Gatland played too.

                    Anyone of note in the Honda team?

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Stargazer I am assuming Gatland played too.

                      Anyone of note in the Honda team?

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                      #159

                      @Bovidae Yeah, Gatland converted 8 of Kobe's tries. Also Ngani Laumape (1 try), Gerard Cowley-Tuioti & Michael Little. I also recognised a few Brave Blossom players in that team.

                      Kiwis in that Honda Heat team were Mitch Hunt (who scored a penalty, a conversion and got a yellow card), Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa and Tevita Li. Also in that team: Franco Mostert, but otherwise not really familiar names, unlike that stacked Kobe team, although I do not recognise all of Japan's internationals.

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                          #161

                          @mikedogz Great. I'm now watching via VPN and it won't cast to my tv. First weekend of JLO is free on JSports.

                          https://www.jsports.co.jp/rugby/league-one/

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                            And in the least surprise of 2023:

                            https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/39103505/eddie-jones-appointed-japan-head-coach-four-year-deal?fbclid=IwAR0d5LERQLJI6nS3JIXpb-WBkR6OvTgjH4omnXQHSOxytn_9mqc16AVyaOY

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                              #163

                              I'm think this is the right place and right team for him. The players will likely put up with his shit and might appreciate his eye for detail, and his reputation and understanding of Japan helps him enormously. From a JP perspective, I think this is great result after losing Joseph. It should also scare away some kiwi coaches who we'd like in NZ>

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                                Well he's so toxic no other union would take the gamble on him now.

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                                  i did kind of hope japan would back out after all the drama

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                                    i did kind of hope japan would back out after all the drama

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                                    #166

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Japanese Rugby:

                                    i did kind of hope japan would back out after all the drama

                                    His reputation there is very high there.

                                    Dropping Australia to return to Japan (as a storyline) isn't going to hurt it.

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Japanese Rugby:

                                      i did kind of hope japan would back out after all the drama

                                      His reputation there is very high there.

                                      Dropping Australia to return to Japan (as a storyline) isn't going to hurt it.

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                                      @gt12 i knew it was previously but thought the obvious lies and arguably disrespectful behaviour in the press might have tainted him a bit...plus the poor results, obviously not

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                                        Such a lying fluffybunny. Even if the first zoom call was just the recruitment company getting his advice, he lied about that

                                        At his Coogee Oval press conference in October, while still in charge of the Wallabies, Jones was asked directly if he had spoken with any third-party recruitment firms about the Japan job. “Not that I am aware of,” Jones said.

                                        But speaking on Thursday night, Jones claimed the August 25 Zoom call was a conversation with the recruiters.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/301028074/heres-why-eddie-jones-claims-about-japan-job-are-misleading

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                                          Such a lying fluffybunny. Even if the first zoom call was just the recruitment company getting his advice, he lied about that

                                          At his Coogee Oval press conference in October, while still in charge of the Wallabies, Jones was asked directly if he had spoken with any third-party recruitment firms about the Japan job. “Not that I am aware of,” Jones said.

                                          But speaking on Thursday night, Jones claimed the August 25 Zoom call was a conversation with the recruiters.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/301028074/heres-why-eddie-jones-claims-about-japan-job-are-misleading

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                                          @Machpants said in Japanese Rugby:

                                          Such a lying fluffybunny. Even if the first zoom call was just the recruitment company getting his advice, he lied about that

                                          At his Coogee Oval press conference in October, while still in charge of the Wallabies, Jones was asked directly if he had spoken with any third-party recruitment firms about the Japan job. “Not that I am aware of,” Jones said.

                                          But speaking on Thursday night, Jones claimed the August 25 Zoom call was a conversation with the recruiters.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/301028074/heres-why-eddie-jones-claims-about-japan-job-are-misleading

                                          Eddie should get into politics once every single Rugby nation has washed their hands of him.

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