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Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua

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  • raznomoreR Offline
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    raznomore
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    <p>Just watched the Joshua vs Whyte bout and up until know I had been very impressed by Joshua. This fight though he was gassed early, showed a piss poor mindset by deciding to go all smash and bash instead of out boxing Whyte. He carried his hands really low and had his chin exposed for the world to see by a guy who doesn't really have classic heavyweight power.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>They talk about an eventual Parker fight on this side of the world but I think Parker would eat him up. No doubt there is serious power in Joshua's punches, his straight rights are fucking brutal, but I don't see the same level of speed and foot work that Parker has. He's very top heavy too, not a lot of strength in his legs.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Just my opinion..</p>

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    • TeWaioT Offline
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      TeWaio
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      #205

      <p>He definitely skips leg day, looks comically out of proportion.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p><img src="http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Anthony-Joshua.jpg" alt="Anthony-Joshua.jpg"></p>

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        Ben
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        #206

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Razbra" data-cid="548094" data-time="1450361974">
        <div>
        <p>They talk about an eventual Parker fight on this side of the world but I think Parker would eat him up.</p>
        </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Jeepers. Big call.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Do we know if Parker can take a punch? Because we now know that Joshua can.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Joshua is an obvious world heavyweight in the waiting. Parker must be seriously good in that case. Exciting.</p>

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        • JKJ Offline
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          JK
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          #207

          <p>Personally I reckon Joshua is a wee bit ahead of Parker at this stage but so hard to tell. Would be great to see them match up but suspect it wont be for a little while yet</p>

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          • raznomoreR Offline
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            #208

            <p>It is a big call. Its just about the movement I see from both fighters. Joshua is a more powerful puncher than Parker and I think he connects more accurately on his power punches. He tends to stand right in front of his opponent though. His hands are low and he is more likely to get hit on the way in. Joseph has better, not elite yet, but better head movement and better footwork to elude punches coming in.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Parker has the fastest hands in the division and I reckon if they fought Barry would have him play keep away and out manoeuvre/out point Joshua.</p>

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            • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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              kiwiinmelb
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              #209

              <p>Power is a funny thing , guys with quick hands tend to have a lot of snap on their punches , they tend to be a lot harder than they look , </p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>If Parker hits you flush enough times he is going to hurt you , especially the right hand , </p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>My main concern is his defense and his chin , not that I think it is bad ,</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>its more I havent seen them  tested yet , all his fights have been a walk in the park so far </p>

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              • K Offline
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                kidcalder
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                <p>I would rate Joshua ahead of Parker slightly at this stage - Joshua has only had 1 test so far Parker has had a couple that have been ok (Sherman, Kali) I just think Joshua has performed well under huge spotlight-pressure- in front of huge crowds etc.</p>
                <p>Would love to see JP fight in UK or US on a big card to prepare him for the pressures that come with that</p>

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                • MN5M Offline
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                  MN5
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                  #211

                  Yeah the power thing is funny. Doesn't need to be said on here how fast Ali's hands were but what got guys was the relentlessness and unerring accuracy he brought to the table. In saying that I'm certain Liston took a dive.

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                  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                    kiwiinmelb
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                    #212

                    Quite often the punch that knocks you out is the one you don't see coming <br><br>
                    with no warning it's like being King hit <br><br>
                    More likely to go to sleep like that than if you see it coming <br><br>
                    It's a similar thing in contact sports like rugby when you see the hit coming you brace yourself when you get blind sighted it hurts a lot more

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                    • MN5M Offline
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                      MN5
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                      #213

                      Very true, if you brace yourself I don't think it necessarily hurts less but you're definitely more prepared.

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                      • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                        kiwiinmelb
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                        #214

                        Ali attributed his knock outs to hand sped over power <br><br>
                        When the brain doesn't register what is about to happen next , the surprise factor can be too much , particularly when already fatigued

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                        • MN5M Offline
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                          MN5
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                          #215

                          True, he put Foreman down when other fine fighters couldn't. Evander Holyfield would have had more luck knocking over a brick wall.

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                            mimic
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                            <p>Looks like Deontay Wilder wants a piece of Fury as well.. </p>

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                              kidcalder
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                              #217

                              <p>Better fight for Wilder than his mandatory Povetkin who may be too much for him</p>

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                              • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                                kiwiinmelb
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                                #218

                                <p>Ive got a feeling Fury is going to lose to Klitchko in the rematch and all this is short lived , </p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Although I think Klitchko is at the end , I rate his best better than Furys best ,  if he has that one big one left in him </p>

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                                  Frye
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                                  <p>Inga Tuigamala's kid is fighting on the Parker undercard.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>He's 6'3", 117kg and 15 years old.</p>
                                  <p>And he's fighting the 28 year old amateur heavyweight champion of Samoa.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Go kid.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p> :lol:  :lol:  :lol:</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11577509'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11577509</a></p>

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                                    Crazy Horse
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                                    Aren't Inga and Tua cousins? Some good genes in that kid.

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                                      Godder
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                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="553728" data-time="1453360054"><p>
                                      Aren't Inga and Tua cousins? Some good genes in that kid.</p></blockquote>
                                      <br>
                                      Yeah, sounds familiar. Pretty sure they're related to the Anoa'i clan as well (pro wrestlers, Yokozuna, Rikishi, Usos, Roman Reigns to name a few of the more recent ones).<br><br>
                                      Tua also had arguably the toughest chin in history - the man could take punches all night, and still keep swinging.

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                                        Crucial
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                                        <p>I see that Solomon Haumono has called out Parker. </p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Considering BoxRec has him at 108 and Parker at 11, I can't see any upside in this for Parker at all unless he needs to fill a schedule gap.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>People complain about Parker's record being against no-names, you should see Haumono's</p>

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                                        • CrucialC Offline
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                                          Crucial
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                                          <p>The rankings on that BoxRec site are interesting. A very complex points system that make the World Rugby one look like kindergarten maths but essentially one that tries to determine points based on opponents rankings and the decisiveness of wins (eg what round, what decision was). Also takes into account the opposition's opposition. So if you were to lose to an up and comer ranked below you who also then went on next fight to demolish someone well above you as well, you don't cop it so much.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Anyway, for all the talk of Parker fighting bunnies, this seems to rebut that (comparatively speaking). He is fighting guys good enough to earn good points in this system. Is ranked 11 compared to Joshua at 16 (although that could be due to having 2 extra fights).</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Lining Parker up later in the year against someone like Erkan Teper or Luis Ortiz would seriously boost him up although, I daresay fights like that also need to fit into actual federation rankings to have effect.</p>

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