European Club Rugby
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
Just watched that game you went to cato, I do enjoy getting up and watching games live over breakfast, and find I really enjoy the Gallagher Shield.
I would think your mate would have to be considered a bloody keen supporter to take out that debenture, but kudos to him regardless!Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
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It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
@nepia said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
Now you know how they can afford high salaries for their players
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@nepia said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
Now you know how they can afford high salaries for their players
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/ -
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/@higgins said in NH club rugby:
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/Salary cap is now 5 million plus 2 (I think) no limit players. France is twice as much, not sure about Japan if there is one?
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@higgins said in NH club rugby:
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/Salary cap is now 5 million plus 2 (I think) no limit players. France is twice as much, not sure about Japan if there is one?
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@higgins said in NH club rugby:
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/Salary cap is now 5 million plus 2 (I think) no limit players. France is twice as much, not sure about Japan if there is one?
Not quite as simple as that. It was more but is being cut by 1 million for next year and this sudden reduction is unsurprisingly causing problems. Also you’re allowed 1 (previously 2) marquee signings which do not count towards the cap. You get a 50% (I think) reduction if a player has come up through your academy. So the 5M cap is not necessarily the actual limit on the payroll. The changes are resulting in quite a lot of movement and I’d expect some to go to France and Japan in the near future.
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Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
Sounds great, I was meant to be in Wales/England this time 3 years ago, basically wanted to catch some club stuff, but broke my leg in Italy on the way, so am kind of hoping to head over in 3 years (covid permitting, so may want to meet up for a beer!
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Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
Sounds great, I was meant to be in Wales/England this time 3 years ago, basically wanted to catch some club stuff, but broke my leg in Italy on the way, so am kind of hoping to head over in 3 years (covid permitting, so may want to meet up for a beer!
14,100 in for a club match. West Country derby too.
If you do get to the UK and make it this far west, a beer would definitely be on the cards.
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!
The hospitality is quite varied with several bars serving a variety of beers, lagers and wine. There are also some mini bars selling gin and prosecco. The main beer is a local brew, Otter Bitter, to which I am very partial to. There was also some craft stuff that my future ex son-in-law liked.
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@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!
The hospitality is quite varied with several bars serving a variety of beers, lagers and wine. There are also some mini bars selling gin and prosecco. The main beer is a local brew, Otter Bitter, to which I am very partial to. There was also some craft stuff that my future ex son-in-law liked.
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Otter Bitter
Yeah I like that, very nice drop indeed. Session beer IIRC, lovely. I think we had it at the Double Locks when we were there in 2015, watched Namibia Tonga IIRC
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Otter Bitter
Yeah I like that, very nice drop indeed. Session beer IIRC, lovely. I think we had it at the Double Locks when we were there in 2015, watched Namibia Tonga IIRC
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Otter Bitter
Yeah I like that, very nice drop indeed. Session beer IIRC, lovely. I think we had it at the Double Locks when we were there in 2015, watched Namibia Tonga IIRC
Yeah only about 3.8%, so very quaffable. The Locks is a Youngs pub but always has one or two guest beers. Did you walk there or drive over the narrow swing bridge?
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
@nepia said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
Not anywhere near the best “seats” in the house either
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@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Otter Bitter
Yeah I like that, very nice drop indeed. Session beer IIRC, lovely. I think we had it at the Double Locks when we were there in 2015, watched Namibia Tonga IIRC
Yeah only about 3.8%, so very quaffable. The Locks is a Youngs pub but always has one or two guest beers. Did you walk there or drive over the narrow swing bridge?
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Otter Bitter
Yeah I like that, very nice drop indeed. Session beer IIRC, lovely. I think we had it at the Double Locks when we were there in 2015, watched Namibia Tonga IIRC
Yeah only about 3.8%, so very quaffable. The Locks is a Youngs pub but always has one or two guest beers. Did you walk there or drive over the narrow swing bridge?
Walked there, was a lovely day. Lots of swans, sun shining, in laws looking after the kids for a couple of days - bliss
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Salary cap biting, and possible un-exodus
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And here is the Welsh report of the transfer. Incidentally Mr. Fifita will be missing from the Wasps lineup against Leicester on Sunday (Monday morning NZ time) as he has a touch of one of the Covid19 virus strains.
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And here is the Welsh report of the transfer. Incidentally Mr. Fifita will be missing from the Wasps lineup against Leicester on Sunday (Monday morning NZ time) as he has a touch of one of the Covid19 virus strains.
@higgins said in NH club rugby:
And here is the Welsh report of the transfer. Incidentally Mr. Fifita will be missing from the Wasps lineup against Leicester on Sunday (Monday morning NZ time) as he has a touch of one of the Covid19 virus strains.
Still wouldn't be surprised if he ends up "finding himself" and becoming a star. He's certainly been on a downward spiral in NZ the last couple of years, but when he was in form it was definite shades of baby Kaino. If he discovered the ability to physically impose himself then he could go far.
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Wasn't sure where to put this.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/tales-regret-wales-hardest-rugby-19594956
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@higgins said in NH club rugby:
And here is the Welsh report of the transfer. Incidentally Mr. Fifita will be missing from the Wasps lineup against Leicester on Sunday (Monday morning NZ time) as he has a touch of one of the Covid19 virus strains.
Still wouldn't be surprised if he ends up "finding himself" and becoming a star. He's certainly been on a downward spiral in NZ the last couple of years, but when he was in form it was definite shades of baby Kaino. If he discovered the ability to physically impose himself then he could go far.
@bones The real problem was the coaches at Super and NPC levels tied to coach him into a completely different type of player to that he was when he first burst onto the scene. You even had Messrs. Plumtree and Hansen openly stating he was a lock and blindside flanker only respectively and each steadfastly not playing him anywhere other than their particular preferred position. When was the last time you saw him ranging out wide like he did when he stared his First Class career when he either scored tries himself or created them with offloads to supporting players? Just a shame he did not opt to go to Japan where he would have been a superstar up there had he been allowed to use his size and speed against the diminutive little Japanese defenders.
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@bones The real problem was the coaches at Super and NPC levels tied to coach him into a completely different type of player to that he was when he first burst onto the scene. You even had Messrs. Plumtree and Hansen openly stating he was a lock and blindside flanker only respectively and each steadfastly not playing him anywhere other than their particular preferred position. When was the last time you saw him ranging out wide like he did when he stared his First Class career when he either scored tries himself or created them with offloads to supporting players? Just a shame he did not opt to go to Japan where he would have been a superstar up there had he been allowed to use his size and speed against the diminutive little Japanese defenders.
@higgins I dunno, to me it seemed they tried to take a bloke with superb athletic ability and mould him into a useful first class player capable of being more than just a flat track bully on one side of the ball. Two ways to skin a cat so could have gone the way you suggest and use him out wide, but then you're just hoping he picks up the other stuff.
Would prolly be an excellent league player!
