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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11902465

    NZR criticised his decision, but less well known was that Piutau is one of 10 children and happened to be living in the garage of the family home. The same garage he had shared with four of his brothers.

    Also heading to Europe at 25 is Malakai Fekitoa, who will join French giants Toulon in October. Fekitoa is one of 15 children and is thought to have been offered about $600,000 more to play in France than to stay in New Zealand.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

      Would have been an AB great imo

      Why?

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      #719

      @Bones said in NH club rugby:

      @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

      Would have been an AB great imo

      Why?

      Why not?

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      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

        @Bones said in NH club rugby:

        @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

        Would have been an AB great imo

        Why?

        Why not?

        BonesB Online
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        Bones
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        #720

        @Billy-Tell because he's not one

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          #721

          Would be interesting to know if piutau's agent and the NZRU even exchanged pleasantries. Quite possibly not.

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            Would be interesting to know if piutau's agent and the NZRU even exchanged pleasantries. Quite possibly not.

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            taniwharugby
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            #722

            @Billy-Tell Is it still Craig Innes?

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              antipodean
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              I completely understand Charles' decision making. If someone said to me two decades ago that I could play for the All Blacks in a highly competitive position and then go north to continue playing rugby but earn millions of dollars I'd have packed my bags.

              Had they mentioned it was Ulster or Bristol instead of the south of France, I may have packed slower...

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                Would have been an AB great imo

                Why?

                Why not?

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                pukunui
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                #724

                @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                Would have been an AB great imo

                Why?

                Why not?

                That is a fucking long bow to draw. He is in it for the cash. Great AB's are in it for a completely different reason.
                I couldn't care less that he isn't coming back.
                He would have just headed back north after a failed season or two like all the rest.
                Let him soak up some of the cash up north so the guys who actually want to be here don't get poached.

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                • African MonkeyA Online
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                  African Monkey
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                  #725

                  Meh can't blame him. I'm sure he'd love to have stayed in NZ but when that much money gets thrown at him and he has the chance to support his family on top of himself then good on him.

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                    Crucial
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                    #726

                    Bristol's not that bad a place. It has developed some cool spots near the river with a growing cafe/brewery/shopping side of things and is in a handy place for travel north or south to interesting places. Not that Charlie will probably get much time for that, but at least it isn't a complete shithole.

                    I know someone who joined the Bristol club just for ticket gaining purposes and says it has such a good club feel they regularly go there from London for a good night out. Says the club has a really open family vibe and the players mix in with the clubbies. Has offered to take me over so may go and check it out.

                    While I still don't comprehend the £s that get spent on players here, you can't blame Charles for grabbing it.

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                      Derm McCrum
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                      #727

                      I'm betting that it's more likely 1.5m for 2 years. He was on c.£420-450k in Ulster per year. Ulster weren't going to go above that, and renewing foreign contracts is a no-no under IRFU Succession Strategy anyway.

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                      • Billy TellB Offline
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                        #728

                        You're not the first Irish poster I see to question the figures.

                        I don't really have an opinion but media outlets having been saying £1m season

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                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                          You're not the first Irish poster I see to question the figures.

                          I don't really have an opinion but media outlets having been saying £1m season

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                          Derm McCrum
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                          @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                          You're not the first Irish poster I see to question the figures.

                          I don't really have an opinion but media outlets having been saying £1m season

                          Belfast Telegraph said £900k ($1.5m) per season. English Telegraph boosted this to £1m per season in its report. Ryan Constable, Piutau's agent, says price also includes image rights and merchandising performance. These figures get inflated all the time with all potential earnings thrown in to boost the market courtesy of agents. It suits PRL to be outbidding the French clubs. Bristol have put out a statement saying it's not close to £1m. Go figure.

                          It's all madness really. Can't wait for the sandcastles to collapse when the tide comes in.

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                            Billy Tell
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                            #730

                            If the tide comes in...

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              If the tide comes in...

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                              Derm McCrum
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                              @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                              If the tide comes in...

                              Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                              I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                              Interesting.

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                              • D Derm McCrum

                                @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                If the tide comes in...

                                Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                Interesting.

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                                Catogrande
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                                #732

                                @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                If the tide comes in...

                                Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                Interesting.

                                Will they have enough quota players?

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                                • D Derm McCrum

                                  @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                  If the tide comes in...

                                  Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                  I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                  Interesting.

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                                  Kruse
                                  wrote on last edited by Kruse
                                  #733

                                  @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                  @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                  If the tide comes in...

                                  Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                  I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                  Interesting.

                                  You taking the piss? Or did some SARU media guy get smashed and let loose?
                                  Did I fall into a sarchasm?

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                                  • KruseK Kruse

                                    @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                    @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                    If the tide comes in...

                                    Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                    I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                    Interesting.

                                    You taking the piss? Or did some SARU media guy get smashed and let loose?
                                    Did I fall into a sarchasm?

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                                    Derm McCrum
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                                    #734

                                    @Kruse said in NH club rugby:

                                    @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                    @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                    If the tide comes in...

                                    Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                    I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                    Interesting.

                                    You taking the piss? Or did some SARU media guy get smashed and let loose?
                                    Did I fall into a sarchasm?

                                    Jurie Roux, CEO of SARU.

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                                    • D Derm McCrum

                                      @Kruse said in NH club rugby:

                                      @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                      @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                      If the tide comes in...

                                      Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                      I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                      Interesting.

                                      You taking the piss? Or did some SARU media guy get smashed and let loose?
                                      Did I fall into a sarchasm?

                                      Jurie Roux, CEO of SARU.

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                                      Kruse
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                                      #735

                                      @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                      Jurie Roux

                                      Well, I guess he's got a bit of spare cash to really tie one on. It does sound like an idea which could sound good after several bottles of champagne and a bit of nose-candy.

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                                      • D Derm McCrum

                                        @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                        If the tide comes in...

                                        Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                        I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                        Interesting.

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                                        SidBarret
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                                        #736

                                        @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                        If the tide comes in...

                                        Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                        I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                        Interesting.

                                        Source?

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                                          @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                          If the tide comes in...

                                          Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                          I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                          Interesting.

                                          Source?

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                                          Derm McCrum
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                                          #737

                                          @SidBarret said in NH club rugby:

                                          @Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                          If the tide comes in...

                                          Fair point - if the tide comes in.

                                          I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.

                                          Interesting.

                                          Source?

                                          Daily Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/08/12/exclusive-springboks-will-rely-heavily-pro14-clubs-future-european/

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