Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final
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@majorrage that may be one of the worst sports "articles" i have ever read
it reads like a bunch of posts on a sports forum from a slightly older, slightly demented member.
Fuck off Mark, no one likes you.
@mariner4life said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@majorrage that may be one of the worst sports "articles" i have ever read
it reads like a bunch of posts on a sports forum from a slightly older, slightly demented member.
Fuck off Mark, no one likes you.
But, he invented the Ageas Bowl. Without that awesome article no one outside Hampshire would have known this.
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I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance
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@chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I'd come out and go for it tonight NZT. Every chance we get score parity it's just a matter of how quickly and how many wickets we lose. If we're all out for 200 then we'll see what Kohli is made of as a captain. If we get to 200 quickly and with wickets in hand then we can take this game by the scruff of its fucking neck and try to force a result. If they roll us for another 50 it's still on India to make a game of it but our chances of winning will have diminished.
Will be interesting to see if someone rolls the dice and has a crack at forcing a result.
We need KW and Ross to get set then up the rate with one to then stick around and be the backbone if we are going to up the ante here.I'm sure we will have a crack at forcing a result.
We don't need to go for it from ball one though. Just bat normally for the first session and hope to keep wickets in hand. All going well, we should have our noses in front an hour after lunch - and could still potentially bat for another 40 overs with a gradual acceleration.
All going according to my plan,
we could be 200 ahead.Leave the Indians a tricky little 10 overs before close of play - and hopefully another 98 overs tomorrow.
That's quite a few more overs than they batted in the first innings - and we have 10 wicket in the shed to slog any deficit at the end.
It's the last bit that concerns me as a nervous nellie that we could go tits up chasing a small target if those footmarks come into play.
The first part is good but I reckon we need to chance our arm for 10-12 overs if possible and go the smash. 250 lead minimum.
I'd like to see them taken out of the win equation and trying to survive.
If nothing else we get the moral victory.
It annoys me that Kohli implied that this game means little as everyone already knows who the best team in the world is. I'd like that 'best team' to be fighting for a draw.@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I'd come out and go for it tonight NZT. Every chance we get score parity it's just a matter of how quickly and how many wickets we lose. If we're all out for 200 then we'll see what Kohli is made of as a captain. If we get to 200 quickly and with wickets in hand then we can take this game by the scruff of its fucking neck and try to force a result. If they roll us for another 50 it's still on India to make a game of it but our chances of winning will have diminished.
Will be interesting to see if someone rolls the dice and has a crack at forcing a result.
We need KW and Ross to get set then up the rate with one to then stick around and be the backbone if we are going to up the ante here.I'm sure we will have a crack at forcing a result.
We don't need to go for it from ball one though. Just bat normally for the first session and hope to keep wickets in hand. All going well, we should have our noses in front an hour after lunch - and could still potentially bat for another 40 overs with a gradual acceleration.
All going according to my plan,
we could be 200 ahead.Leave the Indians a tricky little 10 overs before close of play - and hopefully another 98 overs tomorrow.
That's quite a few more overs than they batted in the first innings - and we have 10 wicket in the shed to slog any deficit at the end.
It's the last bit that concerns me as a nervous nellie that we could go tits up chasing a small target if those footmarks come into play.
The first part is good but I reckon we need to chance our arm for 10-12 overs if possible and go the smash. 250 lead minimum.
I'd like to see them taken out of the win equation and trying to survive.
If nothing else we get the moral victory.I think the only way we lose from here is if we get bowled out very cheaply from here and then bowl the Indians out cheaply - and then get skittled chasing a very low score (¬150).
But, I really want us to remain completely ascendant from here for similar reasons - zero suggestion that it was us saved by rain.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@majorrage that may be one of the worst sports "articles" i have ever read
it reads like a bunch of posts on a sports forum from a slightly older, slightly demented member.
Fuck off Mark, no one likes you.
But, he invented the Ageas Bowl. Without that awesome article no one outside Hampshire would have known this.
@rapido said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mariner4life said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@majorrage that may be one of the worst sports "articles" i have ever read
it reads like a bunch of posts on a sports forum from a slightly older, slightly demented member.
Fuck off Mark, no one likes you.
But, he invented the Ageas Bowl. Without that awesome article no one outside Hampshire would have known this.
The fact he decides to bring up that South Africa would have played the West Indies in the 80s in the final of a competition that hadn’t been invented between two teams, one of whom wasn’t even allowed to play then, is astonishingly irrelevant horseshit.
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I think this article by Aussie arse kissing Pom Mark Nicholas sums up the coverage so far absolutely perfect.
Waxing lyrical about the Indian player consistently, disappointment when they get out, many an anecdote about pretty much so all teams that play the game apart from NZ, and then a couple of lines dropped in to mention the opposition (who are arguably ahead in this test).
@majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I think this article by Aussie arse kissing Pom Mark Nicholas sums up the coverage so far absolutely perfect.
Waxing lyrical about the Indian player consistently, disappointment when they get out, many an anecdote about pretty much so all teams that play the game apart from NZ, and then a couple of lines dropped in to mention the opposition (who are arguably ahead in this test).
Commentators get emotionally attached to the "royalty" of the game. Get a bit stuck in the past.
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@majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I think this article by Aussie arse kissing Pom Mark Nicholas sums up the coverage so far absolutely perfect.
Waxing lyrical about the Indian player consistently, disappointment when they get out, many an anecdote about pretty much so all teams that play the game apart from NZ, and then a couple of lines dropped in to mention the opposition (who are arguably ahead in this test).
Commentators get emotionally attached to the "royalty" of the game. Get a bit stuck in the past.
Kind of like in tennis with Federer being overtaken by Djokovic, many found that hard to accept.@frank especially when the OG is slowly slipping back into the back and being overtaken by the next big thing/s. That old chestnut of if you go out on top or keep playing until it's clear you should have stopped years ago.
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Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying
@nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying
Sparks cricket coverage is brilliant.
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I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance
@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance
This is the right of it - a draw is a shared championship, no need to go all out just yet and risk that.
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@Damo @MajorRage @Chris-B some pretty optimistic scenarios you fullas are throwing out
Given the way this pitch is playing and the quality of both sides, it seems a draw is the only likely outcome.
@act-crusader said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@Damo @MajorRage @Chris-B some pretty optimistic scenarios you fullas are throwing out
Given the way this pitch is playing and the quality of both sides, it seems a draw is the only likely outcome.
I agree that a draw is the most likely outcome.
I also believe that if everything goes horribly wrong for us on this innings, (like all out for 150) a draw is still very likely. India will still need to bat cautiously because if they collapse we probably can chase them down.
Where we perhaps differ is that I believe if we go really well (by scoring really quickly) there is a plausible prospect that we can win.
In other words, while I believe draw is by far the most likely result, us winning is a much better bet than us losing. Hence we should take some risks - even undue ones.
I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.
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@act-crusader said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@Damo @MajorRage @Chris-B some pretty optimistic scenarios you fullas are throwing out
Given the way this pitch is playing and the quality of both sides, it seems a draw is the only likely outcome.
I agree that a draw is the most likely outcome.
I also believe that if everything goes horribly wrong for us on this innings, (like all out for 150) a draw is still very likely. India will still need to bat cautiously because if they collapse we probably can chase them down.
Where we perhaps differ is that I believe if we go really well (by scoring really quickly) there is a plausible prospect that we can win.
In other words, while I believe draw is by far the most likely result, us winning is a much better bet than us losing. Hence we should take some risks - even undue ones.
I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.
@damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.
This pitch is hard to bat on. Agree we should play assertive cricket (rather than aggressive), but expecting 4/over from the outset is a big ask.
CDG could be a key person for us... 50 quick runs in the context of this game would be sensational. Althouhg - if Pant can't score runs quickly, who can?
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@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance
This is the right of it - a draw is a shared championship, no need to go all out just yet and risk that.
@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance
This is the right of it - a draw is a shared championship, no need to go all out just yet and risk that.
A shared championship on the back of a draw is barely a smidgen above losing the test for me. I'd rather we went for it and lost, then just blocked for a draw. Winning is everything.
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Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying
@nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying
Big time. Do Sky not do on demand? I was wanting to watch replays of Euro at my leisure but all I can find is replays, nothing on demand, and there's no option to record games that I can see like there is with the old sky boxes. Am I missing something?or obvious? Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?
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@damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.
This pitch is hard to bat on. Agree we should play assertive cricket (rather than aggressive), but expecting 4/over from the outset is a big ask.
CDG could be a key person for us... 50 quick runs in the context of this game would be sensational. Althouhg - if Pant can't score runs quickly, who can?
@nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.
This pitch is hard to bat on. Agree we should play assertive cricket (rather than aggressive), but expecting 4/over from the outset is a big ask.
CDG could be a key person for us... 50 quick runs in the context of this game would be sensational. Althouhg - if Pant can't score runs quickly, who can?
Pants dismissal was embarrassing for any cricketer let alone an international.
It looked like something from the family unco at the post Xmas dinner backyard bash. -
@nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying
Big time. Do Sky not do on demand? I was wanting to watch replays of Euro at my leisure but all I can find is replays, nothing on demand, and there's no option to record games that I can see like there is with the old sky boxes. Am I missing something?or obvious? Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying
Big time. Do Sky not do on demand? I was wanting to watch replays of Euro at my leisure but all I can find is replays, nothing on demand, and there's no option to record games that I can see like there is with the old sky boxes. Am I missing something?or obvious? Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?
Option B
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@nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying
Big time. Do Sky not do on demand? I was wanting to watch replays of Euro at my leisure but all I can find is replays, nothing on demand, and there's no option to record games that I can see like there is with the old sky boxes. Am I missing something?or obvious? Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?
they've only just figured out that VOD and streaaming could be a thing their customers want.... and maybe the sunset industry they are in could improve. I hope htey change up, as Spark are a generation ahead in tech right now
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@nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.
This pitch is hard to bat on. Agree we should play assertive cricket (rather than aggressive), but expecting 4/over from the outset is a big ask.
CDG could be a key person for us... 50 quick runs in the context of this game would be sensational. Althouhg - if Pant can't score runs quickly, who can?
Pants dismissal was embarrassing for any cricketer let alone an international.
It looked like something from the family unco at the post Xmas dinner backyard bash. -
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?
they've only just figured out that VOD and streaaming could be a thing their customers want.... and maybe the sunset industry they are in could improve. I hope htey change up, as Spark are a generation ahead in tech right now
@nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?
they've only just figured out that VOD and streaaming could be a thing their customers want.... and maybe the sunset industry they are in could improve. I hope htey change up, as Spark are a generation ahead in tech right now
I don't know how we ever managed without on demand TV before
