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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • sharkS Offline
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    I'm not going to pile into MN5 re his or her opinion on Nicholls' innings, suffice to say that it was just what the doctor ordered.

    On Day 2 he needn't do anything different either. He can just bat on and let the likes of Conway, CdG and Jamieson throw the bat at the other end. If he faces half the balls on Day 2 and scores at the same pace, he'd be on 140 or so and the others combined might score at 5 an over which puts us on 560. If he picks up the pace even marginally and the others score slightly quicker also, we've scored 600 at Lords.

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    • sharkS shark

      I'm not going to pile into MN5 re his or her opinion on Nicholls' innings, suffice to say that it was just what the doctor ordered.

      On Day 2 he needn't do anything different either. He can just bat on and let the likes of Conway, CdG and Jamieson throw the bat at the other end. If he faces half the balls on Day 2 and scores at the same pace, he'd be on 140 or so and the others combined might score at 5 an over which puts us on 560. If he picks up the pace even marginally and the others score slightly quicker also, we've scored 600 at Lords.

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      @shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      I'm not going to pile into MN5 re his or her opinion on Nicholls' innings, suffice to say that it was just what the doctor ordered.

      On Day 2 he needn't do anything different either. He can just bat on and let the likes of Conway, CdG and Jamieson throw the bat at the other end. If he faces half the balls on Day 2 and scores at the same pace, he'd be on 140 or so and the others combined might score at 5 an over which puts us on 560. If he picks up the pace even marginally and the others score slightly quicker also, we've scored 600 at Lords.

      Plus I had the feeling that of the two batsmen in the partnership he was the one getting under the skins of the Poms. The bowlers were all 'he's not even trying to score so that removes our options'

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

        @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

        Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?

        The pitch mic sounds off the bat were odd

        Don't think it was one mic at one end though. All of Conway's shots sounded tinny or like there was a slight crack in the bat. The other bats sounded normal.

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        @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

        @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

        @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

        Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?

        The pitch mic sounds off the bat were odd

        Don't think it was one mic at one end though. All of Conway's shots sounded tinny or like there was a slight crack in the bat. The other bats sounded normal.

        When I was watching, before I fell asleep, they all sounded awful. Latham's sounded the worst.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          @crucial It is not rare in the UK for employers to take an interest in their employees personal social media accounts.

          My guess is that there is a line in an ECB contract that is along the line of "a player must ensure that their personal social media accounts reflect the values and aims of the ECB and support our views that Cricket is a game for all, as well as our obligation to our sponsors."

          I suspect the announcement of the investigation is a holding statement as the ECB wait to see if there is more bad publicity for them from Ollie Robinson's social media accounts.

          All a shame when the guy is obviously a fantastic bowler. There was pain and regret in his voice during his sincere apology yesterday. I hope the ECB can find a way to stand by their player.

          I understand that for while in their employ but unless it is made clear that they expect you to sanitise or delete anything old it's a bit rough. Geez in most countries you don't even have to declare criminal records for most things past a certain point.

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          @crucial I've seen UK job application forms that ask for the details of any social media accounts that you've used in the last ten years and remain open to public view.

          Looks like Robinson did sanitise his account but forgot about deleting replies to his then mates from 2012/3.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            @crucial I've seen UK job application forms that ask for the details of any social media accounts that you've used in the last ten years and remain open to public view.

            Looks like Robinson did sanitise his account but forgot about deleting replies to his then mates from 2012/3.

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            @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            @crucial I've seen UK job application forms that ask for the details of any social media accounts that you've used in the last ten years and remain open to public view.

            Yeah, that's fine (as long as they don't want your TSF handle).
            But that's for their due diligence. If they still employ you and something ancient is then brought to light is that your fault?
            However, if they do employ you and the contract states that pre-employment SM is grounds for discipline then fair enough. It's up to you to do some purging.
            Then what about things found on wayback engine?
            I probably have some appalling stuff in the pre moderated TSF days.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:

              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9644785/England-cricket-debutant-Ollie-Robinsons-historic-racist-sexist-tweets-emerge.html

              Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.

              Imagine having to read through that many years of tweets to dig for dirt.

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              @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:

              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9644785/England-cricket-debutant-Ollie-Robinsons-historic-racist-sexist-tweets-emerge.html

              Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.

              Imagine having to read through that many years of tweets to dig for dirt.

              I was going to suggest that someone had this lined up for him from years ago just waiting for the chance. But @sparky 's reply makes as much sense. (BTW #nobooboo πŸ™‚ )

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                #350

                I wouldn't drop Taylor from this series or the final, though I think there are some broad parallels in his recent form to late career Ponting possibly starting to show.

                Regardless, I think he will get to finish his career on his terms.

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                  https://twitter.com/MoinA23/status/1400178653007429632?s=19

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    @cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

                    Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

                    1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
                    1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
                    1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
                    1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
                    1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
                    2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
                    2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
                    2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
                    2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
                    2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
                    2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
                    2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

                    Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

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                    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    @cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

                    Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

                    1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
                    1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
                    1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
                    1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
                    1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
                    2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
                    2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
                    2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
                    2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
                    2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
                    2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
                    2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

                    Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

                    Just to take the list on a slightly different tangent on the stats, just looking at those who have got a 100 at lords on debut it is also a short list.

                    1893 - 107 β€” Harry Graham (AUS)
                    1969 - 107 β€” John Hampshire (ENG)
                    1996 - 131 β€” Sourav Ganguly (IND)
                    2004 - 112 β€” Andrew Strauss (ENG)
                    2007 - 126* β€” Matt Prior (ENG)
                    2021 - 132* β€” Devon Conway (NZ)

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                    • bayimportsB bayimports

                      @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                      @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                      @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                      @cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                      Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

                      Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

                      1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
                      1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
                      1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
                      1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
                      1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
                      2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
                      2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
                      2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
                      2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
                      2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
                      2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
                      2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

                      Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

                      Just to take the list on a slightly different tangent on the stats, just looking at those who have got a 100 at lords on debut it is also a short list.

                      1893 - 107 β€” Harry Graham (AUS)
                      1969 - 107 β€” John Hampshire (ENG)
                      1996 - 131 β€” Sourav Ganguly (IND)
                      2004 - 112 β€” Andrew Strauss (ENG)
                      2007 - 126* β€” Matt Prior (ENG)
                      2021 - 132* β€” Devon Conway (NZ)

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                      #353

                      @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                      Seen them all play bar Graham πŸ˜‰

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                      • bayimportsB bayimports

                        @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

                        Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

                        1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
                        1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
                        1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
                        1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
                        1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
                        2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
                        2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
                        2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
                        2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
                        2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
                        2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
                        2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

                        Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

                        Just to take the list on a slightly different tangent on the stats, just looking at those who have got a 100 at lords on debut it is also a short list.

                        1893 - 107 β€” Harry Graham (AUS)
                        1969 - 107 β€” John Hampshire (ENG)
                        1996 - 131 β€” Sourav Ganguly (IND)
                        2004 - 112 β€” Andrew Strauss (ENG)
                        2007 - 126* β€” Matt Prior (ENG)
                        2021 - 132* β€” Devon Conway (NZ)

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                        #354

                        @bayimports Half of them are Jaapies!!! πŸ™‚

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                        • dogmeatD dogmeat

                          @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                          Seen them all play bar Graham πŸ˜‰

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                          @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                          Seen them all play bar Graham πŸ˜‰

                          Im glad you added the exception otherwise I would suspect you're a cyborg πŸ™‚

                          I do remember as far back as the Ganguly game interestingly another famous Indian also debuted in that match (at no 7) ?

                          a virtual chocolate fish for anyone who can guess correctly without google?

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                            @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                            @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                            Seen them all play bar Graham πŸ˜‰

                            Im glad you added the exception otherwise I would suspect you're a cyborg πŸ™‚

                            I do remember as far back as the Ganguly game interestingly another famous Indian also debuted in that match (at no 7) ?

                            a virtual chocolate fish for anyone who can guess correctly without google?

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                            @bayimports dravid?

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                            • dogmeatD dogmeat

                              @bayimports dravid?

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                              @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              @bayimports dravid?

                              correct..didnt expect a winner first up, especially batting at 7!

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                                  @bayimports dravid?

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                                  canefan
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                                  @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @bayimports dravid?

                                  Too slow! That was my guess too

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                                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                    I wouldn't drop Taylor from this series or the final, though I think there are some broad parallels in his recent form to late career Ponting possibly starting to show.

                                    Regardless, I think he will get to finish his career on his terms.

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                                    @donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    I wouldn't drop Taylor from this series or the final, though I think there are some broad parallels in his recent form to late career Ponting possibly starting to show.

                                    Regardless, I think he will get to finish his career on his terms.

                                    Exactly. Just catch all your catches Roscoe...

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                                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                      @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                                      Seen them all play bar Graham πŸ˜‰

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                                      Virgil
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                                      @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                                      Seen them all play bar Graham πŸ˜‰

                                      You sure about that...

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                                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

                                        Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

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                                        @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

                                        Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

                                        Yeah the alien pod thing, although now I have the tickets I see there's been a reshuffle to the Tavern Stand boxes instead. The new stands either side of the media center look great on TV, well see how they look live.

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                                          Great stuff by Conway. I can’t help think though we’ve become like Scotland in rugby: always with a few SA imports in the side.

                                          Nevertheless if Conway has made NZ his home: welcome son!

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