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  • NTAN Offline
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    #24

    <p>Djokovic has said in the press that he was approached early in his career with $200K to throw a game. It was reported at the time apparently, which makes the tennis bosses look like pricks in light of recent reporting.</p>

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    • No QuarterN Online
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      I see Nadal suspiciously lost his opening match of the Australian open...

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      • NTAN Offline
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        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="553328" data-time="1453193469"><p>I see Nadal suspiciously lost his opening match of the Australian open...</p></blockquote>
        My thoughts exactly

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        • VirgilV Offline
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          The woman's number 2 seed was beaten as well, the fix is well and truly on...

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          • DonsteppaD Offline
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            The last three posts are again what make me loathe match/spot fixers so much - we go from random things being "the joys of sport" to being possibly suspicious (even in jest).

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              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="553350" data-time="1453226161"><p>The last three posts are again what make me loathe match/spot fixers so much - we go from random things being "the joys of sport" to being possibly suspicious (even in jest).</p></blockquote>
              <br>
              It's like every time Pakistan lose a cricket match, either a game they should have gone on to win ( shelling easy catches, batsmen throwing away their wicket) or a truly poor performance against a lower side they should always beat. It's Pakistan they do fall apart for legitimate reasons sometimes, but we will always suspect they are on the take.

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              • P Offline
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                <p>have just read david walshs book the program( about lance armstrong) then seen the movie.it makes you question so much about sport. </p>

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                • CrucialC Offline
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                  <p>In a way, fixing in tennis is probably one of the more damaging ones. A cricketer throwing away his wicket at a certain point is an event that could have happened anyway, and unless a whole team is in on a fix then still leaves the other players all doing the 'right' thing.</p>
                  <p>Tennis though is one on one. Spectators only pay and watch because they see entertainment in watching a competition between two players. Fixing removes that competition and they are watching a complete farce.</p>
                  <p>Sure, a clever player could even provide them with more entertainment, falling behind then battling back only to fail in the end but I doubt that happens</p>

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                    #32

                    <p>and a very easy one due to only needing one person to fix, and that fixing effort is impossible to be undermined by the performance of any other player - short of injury to the other.</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>buncha fluffybunnies.</p>

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                      <p>I wonder what other sports are rife for fixing?</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Golf? Too random maybe? The variables of erractic form, different courses and weather make betting on golf a mugs game anyway. Possibly some ability to influence in the last round once variables have settled but then the money for players by doing their best probably outweighs what a fixer would pay. Maybe some profit in where a middle of the pack player ends up on the results sheet but even then he would be having to work around the performances of others.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Soccer? Really only goalies and maybe defenders being able to influence scores or results. But only when the chance presents itself by the general play.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Darts? Plenty of scope there.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Rugby? Pretty low chance. would need to be the captain taking options (when penalties present themselves)</p>

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                        <p>As Federer said, let's see some names.  According to the TV news, one of the names on the list is a former US Open champ.  Given the geographical locations of the betting syndicates who made millions on match fixing one name stands out.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Crucial, baseball and basketball are two sports that spring to mind.  Baseball could be manipulated in the same way as cricket with balls and strikes.  </p>

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                          Re rugby ... first scoring play or first stoppage could be up there. Much like the leaguie in the NRL. Bulldogs v Cowboys?<br><br>
                          ...yep, have looked it up. Ryan Tandy.

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                            Lankans having some issues in crikay ...<br>
                            <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11576482'>http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11576482</a><br><br>
                            Approaches only apparently.

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                              <p>Tennis is the perfect sport for this, no doubt. Has all of the conditions:</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>- Multiple markets that are easily manipulated without necessarily altering the end result (eg set by set betting)</p>
                              <p>- Markets offered on low level circuits such as challenger and futures tournaments that no-one cares about</p>
                              <p>- Said tournaments have fuck all prizemoney, making fixing a far more lucrative option</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>I read an article (which I can't find now) which detailed a common fix strategy in the low level circuits. Two players would agree to split the first two sets in an agreed order (player A gets the first, B the second) and then play for the chocolates in the 3rd with no restrictions. Their mates would load up on each set and make a killing, while the integrity of the match itself was somewhat preserved.</p>

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                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="553368" data-time="1453237521">
                                <div>
                                <p>I wonder what other sports are rife for fixing?</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Golf? Too random maybe? The variables of erractic form, different courses and weather make betting on golf a mugs game anyway. Possibly some ability to influence in the last round once variables have settled but then the money for players by doing their best probably outweighs what a fixer would pay. Maybe some profit in where a middle of the pack player ends up on the results sheet but even then he would be having to work around the performances of others.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Soccer? Really only goalies and maybe defenders being able to influence scores or results. But only when the chance presents itself by the general play.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Darts? Plenty of scope there.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Rugby? Pretty low chance. would need to be the captain taking options (when penalties present themselves)</p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Don't forget referees.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>BTW, there's been a ton of fixing in the lower leagues of soccer.</p>

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                                  #39

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="553368" data-time="1453237521">
                                  <div><br><p>Soccer? Really only goalies and maybe defenders being able to influence scores or results. But only when the chance presents itself by the general play.</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p>This guy....</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Grobbelaar#Match-fixing_allegations'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Grobbelaar#Match-fixing_allegations</a></p>

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                                    #40

                                    <p>So someone has punched all the numbers from the Buzzfeed investigation, and here are the 15 names. One is a biggie:</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BFEdKAW0QHs/Vp9w0B76O0I/AAAAAAAADc0/NCq8_6ui_XI/s400/fix1.jpg" alt="fix1.jpg"></p>

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                                      <p>But this bloke raises some pretty valid questions as he looks into the allegations against Hewitt:</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.sportdw.com/2016/01/tennis-fixing-buzzfeed-hewitt-innocent.html?m=1 '>http://www.sportdw.com/2016/01/tennis-fixing-buzzfeed-hewitt-innocent.html?m=1&nbsp;</a></p>

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                                        barbarian
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                                        <p>Another really interesting article, breaking down a few suspect matches the TIU has refused to examine. Hard to believe it's all a coincidence:</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.sportdw.com/2016/01/suspicious-matches-tiu-failed.html'>http://www.sportdw.com/2016/01/suspicious-matches-tiu-failed.html</a></p>

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                                          A few odd-looking bets out of Sicily could also be money laundering or arbitrage...

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