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All Blacks vs Fiji

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    Respect to Fiji well coached and look forward to next weekend

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      @stargazer know it looks bad. But McKenzie drops in tackle, and primary contact was body on body with arm wrapping high. If he had hit him with arm in the head he would have lost a week.

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      • number9N number9

        The bench was average we la k mobility through the forwards.

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        @number9 eh? Our bench was the only good thing in that game from our POV.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @tim these players arent shit all of a sudden, sure they are all older, that should make them tougher, smarter, not softer.

          Have to think something is just not clicking

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          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

          @tim these players arent shit all of a sudden, sure they are all older, that should make them tougher, smarter, not softer.

          Have to think something is just not clicking

          For a long time though…think we have to select and train players to win tests, not Super 15 games.

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          • S Steven Harris

            Really enjoyed this contest ,seeing another repeat of last week would have done nothing for anyone..
            Fiji really bought it physically showing the benefits of many of their forwards especially playing in France and Europe in general but I suspect being stuck in isolation and lack preparation finally told especially in and around breakdown accuracy and discipline..All Blacks looked better when both Whitelock and Coles were on the field ..but in terms of consistency I thought Ethan Blackadder playing in the unfamiliar jersey was very solid ..biggest disappointments to me where Sotutu,Tuipulotu and Frizzell..

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            @steven-harris Yeah, thought Sotutu was up and down, did some good things but wasn't his best outing in Black. The less said about Frizell the better, and yeah, sadly Tuipulotu has not been consistent in Black. Love the guy and what he's done for the Blues, but he hasn't been at his best at test level.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @number9 eh? Our bench was the only good thing in that game from our POV.

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

              @number9 eh? Our bench was the only good thing in that game from our POV.

              Bench like coaching was shite, this is the ABs that was pathetic. Coles scored 4 and thr Fijian scored through a rolling maul.

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                @stargazer I wont click into the twitter feed, but most will probably say it is ok and Kiwi thugs deserved it....

                shame if the Fijians lose him, which they should.

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                @stargazer I wont click into the twitter feed, but most will probably say it is ok and Kiwi thugs deserved it....

                shame if the Fijians lose him, which they should.

                No, to the contrary. Most people in the comments say that it should have been a red card.

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                • K kev

                  @no-quarter small rugby nation, no preparation, country in tatters with COVID, history…fantastic I reckon.

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                  @kev said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                  @no-quarter small rugby nation, no preparation, country in tatters with COVID, history…fantastic I reckon.

                  Not saying they shouldn't be proud of their efforts, especially given the circumstances. I'm just saying it's a recurring theme for NZers like Smithy when interviewing opposition players, who are professional athletes, telling them how proud they should he for even donning the field against the mighty ABs. It's a condescending line of questioning when they should be talking about what went wrong and what they can work on to come back stronger next week.

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                    @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

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                    Should have been a straight red.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      An idiot:

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300354196/sir-steve-hansen-says-its-stupid-that-ian-foster-hasnt-been-resigned-as-all-blacks-coach-until-2023

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                      @tim said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                      An idiot:

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300354196/sir-steve-hansen-says-its-stupid-that-ian-foster-hasnt-been-resigned-as-all-blacks-coach-until-2023

                      He should have retired in 2015. Although that might have inflicted Foster on us even earlier.

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                      • K kev

                        @stargazer know it looks bad. But McKenzie drops in tackle, and primary contact was body on body with arm wrapping high. If he had hit him with arm in the head he would have lost a week.

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                        @kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.

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                          https://twitter.com/ultimaterugby/status/1413774101307695106

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                          @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

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                          High and no arms

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                            @number9 eh? Our bench was the only good thing in that game from our POV.

                            Bench like coaching was shite, this is the ABs that was pathetic. Coles scored 4 and thr Fijian scored through a rolling maul.

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                            @number9 eh? Our bench was the only good thing in that game from our POV.

                            Bench like coaching was shite, this is the ABs that was pathetic. Coles scored 4 and thr Fijian scored through a rolling maul.

                            dominated the maul enough to ge ta penalty try - that's some good forward work right there. This Fiji side could be a dark horse if they get some time together, some very good players there, and some very good coaches.

                            Vern Cotter is a seriously good coach with strnog pedigree.

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                              On the Botia/McKenzie thing - looks bad. One AR with what looks like line-of-sight within 10 metres of the incident didn't even flinch.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.

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                                @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                @kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.

                                My main thing was initial contact was body to body and he didn’t aim high. Mixed thoughts - protect the player, but for me it was a great dominant tackle. That’s what Rugby is about.

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                                  Foster agrees that he's found some competition with Fiji.

                                  At least he's aware of his limitations...

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                                    https://twitter.com/ultimaterugby/status/1413774101307695106

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                                    @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

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                                    Clear red card.

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                                    • K kev

                                      @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                      @kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.

                                      My main thing was initial contact was body to body and he didn’t aim high. Mixed thoughts - protect the player, but for me it was a great dominant tackle. That’s what Rugby is about.

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                                      @kev said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                      @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                      @kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.

                                      My main thing was initial contact was body to body and he didn’t aim high. Mixed thoughts - protect the player, but for me it was a great dominant tackle. That’s what Rugby is about.

                                      I don't agree with any of this, yellow all day for me.

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                                        I’m really liking Blackadder the Younger. I’d love to see him, Dalton and Akira in the loose. Then bring on Ardie in the second half. Frizzell just doesn’t have it and I’m leaning that way on Sotutu.

                                        It’s a bit concerning that 50 year old Sam Whitelock is the best lock by a proverbial country mile. Hopefully Retallick can get back to speed. Patty T isn’t consistent enough and Scott B gets sent off.

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                                        • K kev

                                          @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                          @kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.

                                          My main thing was initial contact was body to body and he didn’t aim high. Mixed thoughts - protect the player, but for me it was a great dominant tackle. That’s what Rugby is about.

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                                          @kev guess the thing is, Dmac is already a lower target, he was low before the guy even lined him up...ideally, for the game next week he doesnt cop a ban because he is a good player, but in reality, I cant see how he doesnt get a break.

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