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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

    I drove 9 hours to sydney in 2014 to sit in the rain and watch the Allblacks draw with Wallabies 12 all in a shit game .

    Made me think, if I had the option to jump in a car tonight, and drive somewhere to watch an ABs game and have a night out with mates, what's the line on kms I'd be prepared to travel?

    Right now, I think I'd set the line at about 10,000kms.

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    @voodoo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

    Right now, I think I'd set the line at about 10,000kms.

    Spot on.

    But, if you did that last weekend, what's the line now?

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      It's Thursday. When?

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        It's Thursday. When?

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        @booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

        It's Thursday. When?

        1130 I think

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          Any word on Coles/Barrett (S)/Jordan injury status? All would be in 23 if fit.

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            Here's Knowler's selection predictions

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300380082/all-blacks-will-ian-foster-stay-loyal-for-bledisloe-ii-in-auckland

            Given the comments this week from Plumtree etc I'm not expecting many

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              would like two changes Jacobson for savea and BB for Dmac

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                would like two changes Jacobson for savea and BB for Dmac

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                @ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                would like two changes Jacobson for savea and BB for Dmac

                Jordie is not a bench impact player, he either starts at 15, or is not in 23. So I'd get another winger

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                  would like two changes Jacobson for savea and BB for Dmac

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                  @ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                  would like two changes Jacobson for savea and BB for Dmac

                  Am sure BB would like the opportunity to get played into form that BBBR is getting.

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                    I'd bring Jordan in for Reece, BB for Dmac, Jacobson for Savea (Savea to the bench).

                    I'd give DH another chance at 12 to tidy up his defence and run straighter to allow ALB to do something other than tidy up RM, Dmac, Reece and DH sideways running.

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                      Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                      I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

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                        Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                        I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

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                        @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                        Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                        I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                        RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                          Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                          I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                          RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

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                          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                          Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                          I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                          RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                          Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

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                            @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                            @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                            Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                            I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                            RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                            Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

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                            @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                            @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                            @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                            Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                            I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                            RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                            Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

                            BB started as a fullback for the All Blacks, and had some of his best games there.

                            As for the Japan part, it's interesting noting the different attitudes to BBBR and BB doing exactly the same thing.

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                              @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                              @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                              @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                              Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                              I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                              RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                              Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

                              BB started as a fullback for the All Blacks, and had some of his best games there.

                              As for the Japan part, it's interesting noting the different attitudes to BBBR and BB doing exactly the same thing.

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                              @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                              @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                              @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                              @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                              Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                              I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                              RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                              Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

                              BB started as a fullback for the All Blacks, and had some of his best games there.

                              As for the Japan part, it's interesting noting the different attitudes to BBBR and BB doing exactly the same thing.

                              For sure, he's a great full back. But he's a better ten. Well he was before he was sure horned into permanent 15 because of DMac injury and then playing in Japan. Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                                I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                                RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                                Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

                                BB started as a fullback for the All Blacks, and had some of his best games there.

                                As for the Japan part, it's interesting noting the different attitudes to BBBR and BB doing exactly the same thing.

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                                @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                                I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                                RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                                Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

                                BB started as a fullback for the All Blacks, and had some of his best games there.

                                As for the Japan part, it's interesting noting the different attitudes to BBBR and BB doing exactly the same thing.

                                Yeah, I think they’ve basically told Barrett that he has to sit on the bench because he is not the incumbent, but he was only at 15 due to their request.

                                I hope that Mo’unga is as good as they think he is, because sitting a World Player of the Year out is a coaching call we have not really talked about much, yet.

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                                  Not going to happen, but I shouldn’t be averse to Ardie and Paps as dual flankers with Akira at 8.

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                                    Not going to happen, but I shouldn’t be averse to Ardie and Paps as dual flankers with Akira at 8.

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                                    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                    Not going to happen, but I shouldn’t be averse to Ardie and Paps as dual flankers with Akira at 8.

                                    Yeah, can see the value of that. But since 6 has been such a huge problem since Kaino retired, would rather they leave Akira alone at 6.

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                                      Unless any of the injured players are back, I'd go with the same team but with one of the Barretts (not Scott) at Fullback.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                        Not going to happen, but I shouldn’t be averse to Ardie and Paps as dual flankers with Akira at 8.

                                        Yeah, can see the value of that. But since 6 has been such a huge problem since Kaino retired, would rather they leave Akira alone at 6.

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                                        @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                        Not going to happen, but I shouldn’t be averse to Ardie and Paps as dual flankers with Akira at 8.

                                        Yeah, can see the value of that. But since 6 has been such a huge problem since Kaino retired, would rather they leave Akira alone at 6.

                                        Off back of scrum on attacking ball Akira has more oomph. But agree stick to 6 on defensive ones.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                          Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                                          I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                                          RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                                          Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

                                          BB started as a fullback for the All Blacks, and had some of his best games there.

                                          As for the Japan part, it's interesting noting the different attitudes to BBBR and BB doing exactly the same thing.

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                                          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                          Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.

                                          I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.

                                          RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...

                                          Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho

                                          BB started as a fullback for the All Blacks, and had some of his best games there.

                                          As for the Japan part, it's interesting noting the different attitudes to BBBR and BB doing exactly the same thing.

                                          Not sure there's a direct comparison due to the options in their positions.

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