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Chiefs 2022

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    @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

    Only a 1 yr deal, so probably DMac's replacement.

    I am a bit disappointed by this. Where does that leave Reihana? Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year - and give Reihana some time along the way.

    I certainly hope the Chiefs bring an improvement in Josh's discipline off the field. He has talent on it - but needs consistency - and I suspect improvements off the field can help. Bit of a risk by Chiefs though, especially when it is a line-breaking winger that they need most.

    Is there word on the 3rd halfback? Is it Nock? Was hoping they might get Luke Campbell back if Hurricanes released him, or Cortez Ratima.

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    @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

    Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year

    Orbyn Leger? The guy isn't a 12 at Super Rugby level let alone a 10. "only break in case of emergency" should apply.

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      @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

      Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year

      Orbyn Leger? The guy isn't a 12 at Super Rugby level let alone a 10. "only break in case of emergency" should apply.

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      @kiwimurph said in Chiefs 2022:

      @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

      Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year

      Orbyn Leger? The guy isn't a 12 at Super Rugby level let alone a 10. "only break in case of emergency" should apply.

      "only break in case of incompetent coaching and recruitment' c.f. the Canes

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126235444/chiefs-confirm-damian-mckenzies-departure-confident-in-josh-ioanes-character

        “Look, all I know is Damian’s not going to be with us, at the moment that’s all I can sort of comment on,” Collins told Stuff on Tuesday.

        Collins confirmed there were “a couple of spots” left to fill in the Chiefs’ 38-man squad for next year and that when the NPC resumed they were eagerly tracking several players from the provincial unions within the region.

        No mention of Reihana in the article.

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          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126235444/chiefs-confirm-damian-mckenzies-departure-confident-in-josh-ioanes-character

          “Look, all I know is Damian’s not going to be with us, at the moment that’s all I can sort of comment on,” Collins told Stuff on Tuesday.

          Collins confirmed there were “a couple of spots” left to fill in the Chiefs’ 38-man squad for next year and that when the NPC resumed they were eagerly tracking several players from the provincial unions within the region.

          No mention of Reihana in the article.

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          @bovidae no but they mention Gatland is out of MIQ. There goes my cunning plan.

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            so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

            ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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              so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

              ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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              @kiwiwomble I feel your pain, the Blues did the same to us.

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

                ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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                @kiwiwomble Didn't you take Hunt from the Crusaders? And Gatland from the Blues?

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                  @kiwiwomble Didn't you take Hunt from the Crusaders? And Gatland from the Blues?

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                  @stargazer and both were really upset and have really fall on hard times....poor blues with BB and crusaders with Mo'unga

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

                    ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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                    @kiwiwomble Plenty of Chiefs players have moved in the other direction too, maybe not just in the same position.

                    Smith might be available if he isn't heading back to Japan.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @kiwiwomble Plenty of Chiefs players have moved in the other direction too, maybe not just in the same position.

                      Smith might be available if he isn't heading back to Japan.

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                      @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @kiwiwomble Plenty of Chiefs players have moved in the other direction too, maybe not just in the same position.

                      Smith might be available if he isn't heading back to Japan.

                      He won't be going back to the Shining Arcs (Otere Black) but there will be other spots open I assume.

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

                        ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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                        @kiwiwomble said in Chiefs 2022:

                        so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

                        ....can we have smith or gatland back?

                        You're welcome to Gatland. He comes as a package deal mind you.

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                          Well, I was really a bit pissed off with the Chiefs for losing Dmac with seemingly nothing in sight, but we have done as well as can be expected, given that we are losing our key game driver.

                          It should open up opportunities for younger players to have an opportunity (e.g., Trask at 15 or Stevenson etc) and we still have a player who should be able to drive around a Super team at 10.

                          So, less of a fuck you to the Chiefs board and coaching team, that's my new position. Until we start losing.

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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126241412/super-rugby-pacific-highlanders-track-naholo-brothers-waisake-and-kini-for-2022

                            interesting article wonder who will replace kini

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                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126241412/super-rugby-pacific-highlanders-track-naholo-brothers-waisake-and-kini-for-2022

                              interesting article wonder who will replace kini

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                              @ploughboy said in Chiefs 2022:

                              interesting article wonder who will replace kini

                              He would only have had a WTG contract this year.

                              While we would all like an explosive winger the coaches might think they've got enough cover with 5 players in this years squad able to play on the wing. If Wrampling gets a full contract he is an option there too. Maybe Narawa is available but not really a step up from who is there at the moment.

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                                Well, I was really a bit pissed off with the Chiefs for losing Dmac with seemingly nothing in sight, but we have done as well as can be expected, given that we are losing our key game driver.

                                It should open up opportunities for younger players to have an opportunity (e.g., Trask at 15 or Stevenson etc) and we still have a player who should be able to drive around a Super team at 10.

                                So, less of a fuck you to the Chiefs board and coaching team, that's my new position. Until we start losing.

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                                @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                                Well, I was really a bit pissed off with the Chiefs for losing Dmac with seemingly nothing in sight, but we have done as well as can be expected, given that we are losing our key game driver.

                                I don't get this 'losing DMac' like the Chiefs can compete. If he feels the need to make a load of cash he has to go overseas, this is one of the reasons that NZR want Silver Lake. If the players want the money, we're stuffed. It's only those that want to balance that with the awesomeness of being an All Black we have a chance with.

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                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126241412/super-rugby-pacific-highlanders-track-naholo-brothers-waisake-and-kini-for-2022

                                  interesting article wonder who will replace kini

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                                  Boo. So, we’ll have tiny and/or ineffective wings.

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                                    who was that winger playing for bop fijiian guy

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                                      @ploughboy

                                      Boo. So, we’ll have tiny and/or ineffective wings.

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                                      @gt12 Kini is not a big winger like his brother. In fact, he would be smaller than what we have now.

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                                        @gt12 Kini is not a big winger like his brother. In fact, he would be smaller than what we have now.

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                                        @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        @gt12 Kini is not a big winger like his brother. In fact, he would be smaller than what we have now.

                                        I know, which is why I added ‘ineffective’

                                        I know he’s an injury risk, but we don’t have much class on the wings, and he does have potential to be useful.

                                        I hope we still have Lowe as he should be a starter, so with luck, ENS will turn the corner or Stevenson will get a bit more consistent.

                                        There is also Wainui I guess, and we also have? Wrampling?

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                                          @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                          @gt12 Kini is not a big winger like his brother. In fact, he would be smaller than what we have now.

                                          I know, which is why I added ‘ineffective’

                                          I know he’s an injury risk, but we don’t have much class on the wings, and he does have potential to be useful.

                                          I hope we still have Lowe as he should be a starter, so with luck, ENS will turn the corner or Stevenson will get a bit more consistent.

                                          There is also Wainui I guess, and we also have? Wrampling?

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                                          @gt12 Ratave and Dawai looked worthy of further inspection in early rounds of NPC. Would like to see Regan Ware in 15s too.

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