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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    SANZAAR have done some cost-cutting there. Apart from Hometown and Gardner none of the other officials leave their own country.

    I'm surprised they didn't wheel out Ayoub for Canberra.

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      First the Brumbies get a home final after winning like two games all year. Then on top of that they get Hometown as a ref? We get it News Ltd, you really want an Aussie team in the comp for as long as possible. Maybe be a bit more subtle next year aye?

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        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94837194/dane-coles-reveals-lowest-point-of-fourmonth-rugby-layoff-i-thought-this-might-be-it

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          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94841202/chiefs-midfielder-charlie-ngatai-out-of-super-rugby-quarterfinal-against-stormers-with-ankle-injury

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            I get the feeling it would be more newsworthy if Ngatai was actually fit for a game.

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            • BonesB Bones

              I get the feeling it would be more newsworthy if Ngatai was actually fit for a game.

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              @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

              I get the feeling it would be more newsworthy if Ngatai was actually fit for a game.

              Yeah, you've gotta feel for the guy though. Just as his game and position matured and his class was on show he has copped one thing after another.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

                I get the feeling it would be more newsworthy if Ngatai was actually fit for a game.

                Yeah, you've gotta feel for the guy though. Just as his game and position matured and his class was on show he has copped one thing after another.

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                @Crucial his whole career more like it!

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                  With Coles already signed through to 2019, it looks like our no. 2 hooker will also stay in NZ. That's a relief, esp because we have to wait and see how Coles gets through the next few weeks/months and there's daylight between Taylor and Harris, Coltman (who are also signed until 2019) etc. It gives the ABs a bit of time to develop the next crop, which is really necessary.

                  http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/94948939/all-blacks-hooker-codie-taylor-set-to-stay-in-new-zealand

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                    Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

                    http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

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                      for all those muppets saying Jordie shoulda been kicking in the test...oh wait, he's right footed isnt he?

                      https://twitter.com/avan_rugby/status/887921433208250369

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                        I was relayed an anecdote from an old timer involved in the Lincoln Uni club who was cleaning up after practice one Tuesday and saw Jordie Barrett stay behind, banging over leftfooted droppies from the sideline, 50 metres out.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

                          http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

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                          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                          Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

                          http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

                          I've never understood this.

                          If the players felt their bodies needed a rest, they wouldn't sign these lucrative off season contracts.

                          They are adults who are capable of making grown up decisions. They know their clock is ticking and all of them who choose to play more are doing so out of their own free will.

                          my 2c

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                          • PNP PN

                            @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                            Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

                            http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

                            I've never understood this.

                            If the players felt their bodies needed a rest, they wouldn't sign these lucrative off season contracts.

                            They are adults who are capable of making grown up decisions. They know their clock is ticking and all of them who choose to play more are doing so out of their own free will.

                            my 2c

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                            @PN Playing in Japan, is only an off-season thing for players of NZ, SA or Aussie franchises. For Japanese players, this is their domestic competition! No doubt there are Ferners who can explain this better. A lot of the Sunwolves' players are selected and signed from Top League clubs.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @PN Playing in Japan, is only an off-season thing for players of NZ, SA or Aussie franchises. For Japanese players, this is their domestic competition! No doubt there are Ferners who can explain this better. A lot of the Sunwolves' players are selected and signed from Top League clubs.

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                              @Stargazer

                              It's one reason why the SWs can't really run out a great team - there is a lot more talent there either not allowed or not willing to take on Super rugby - these guys get their salaries from the companies, and like pretty much all Japanese, are at their mercy.

                              Personally, I think the SWs would have been much stronger if they had just promoted one team (Panasonic, Suntory, or Toshiba). That sounds mad but I think those teams would roll over the SWs.

                              In good news those, it seems like the SWs are going to get a better shake in the next year or so (or so I was told by a friend who is much more into JP footy than I).

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                                Waisake Naholo has re-signed with the Highlanders for another year. Yes, one year!

                                http://twitter.com/Highlanders/status/888242541677518848

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                                  Wise man. Obviously he got my warning about the 2018 Chiefs.

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                                    Just heard on Post-Match after Crusaders v Highlanders:
                                    there is a strong rumour going around that Gareth Evens has signed with the Hurricanes! Replacing Callum Gibbins?

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                                      There were three yellow cards I saw on the weekend from head/arm/shoulder contacts
                                      I'm of the opinion that all 3 could have been a penalty and a reminder/warning to be careful. Probably not in this day and age

                                      However theses were very close to the "accidental, yet willing, contact" side of things.

                                      Call them yellow? So be it

                                      But it risks heading down a rabbit hole where any body vs head contact can conceivably result in 14 v 15 for 10 minutes.

                                      There could (should?) be a lot of them - not so good

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                                      • P Do not disturb
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                                        pakman
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                                        This is worthy of it's own thread. I'd add that a lot of issues are cropping up in double tackles.
                                        In single tackles a trailing arm/leading shoulder is an indicator of reckless/foul play, quite reasonably in my view.
                                        However, in double tackles it is quite usual for at least one tackler's arm to be impeded by the other tackler, resulting in leading shoulder.
                                        Jack O'Piper quite naturally did not feel that Cane tackle in Stormers match was reckless or malicious. But TMO (no doubt correctly) cited the arbitrary protocols, which mandate yellow in such cases.
                                        Kaino suffered in a similar way, although S O'B after four hours of discussion was ruled accidental.
                                        Urgent protocol revision, please.

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                                          This is worthy of it's own thread. I'd add that a lot of issues are cropping up in double tackles.
                                          In single tackles a trailing arm/leading shoulder is an indicator of reckless/foul play, quite reasonably in my view.
                                          However, in double tackles it is quite usual for at least one tackler's arm to be impeded by the other tackler, resulting in leading shoulder.
                                          Jack O'Piper quite naturally did not feel that Cane tackle in Stormers match was reckless or malicious. But TMO (no doubt correctly) cited the arbitrary protocols, which mandate yellow in such cases.
                                          Kaino suffered in a similar way, although S O'B after four hours of discussion was ruled accidental.
                                          Urgent protocol revision, please.

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                                          @pakman @Siam - a lot of people have raised the idea of some sort of penalty between "free-kick penalty" and "yellow card" - to be used in these cases where it's clearly accidental head contact, not really reckless - but avoidable.
                                          Perhaps a 5-minute yellow?

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