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    footy01
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    Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @stargazer ah ok, so you are cool with NZR basically saying none of you other 10s out there are upto super rugby next year, so hard luck?

      If he does sign in M10, then great, all a moot point, but if not, it is shit, he is not someone who has earnt the right to play off-shore and in Super rugby.

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      @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

      @stargazer ah ok, so you are cool with NZR basically saying none of you other 10s out there are upto super rugby next year, so hard luck?

      The bigger issue with this signing is that NZR are not discouraging young players from going overseas to earn some coin if there is a good chance they'll get a SR contract if they decide to return to NZ. It does send the wrong message.

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        Would be good if they picked up someone like Gear to replace Lowe...

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        • BonesB Bones

          Would be good if they picked up someone like Gear to replace Lowe...

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          @bones Going for the easy upvotes again? This dig at me is even poor for your standards.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

            @stargazer ah ok, so you are cool with NZR basically saying none of you other 10s out there are upto super rugby next year, so hard luck?

            The bigger issue with this signing is that NZR are not discouraging young players from going overseas to earn some coin if there is a good chance they'll get a SR contract if they decide to return to NZ. It does send the wrong message.

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            @bovidae Yep, that's a way more convincing argument.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @bovidae Yep, that's a way more convincing argument.

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              #3679

              @stargazer it's the same point I was making, just explained differently; that IF he doesnt play M10 Cup and plays super rugby it is showing the next wave of kids that NZR rugby doesnt value M10 Cup, so another pathway is to piss off overseas.

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                Refs for the weekend:

                Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
                Date Friday 20 July
                Kick-off 19:35 local

                Referee Glen Jackson
                AR1 Nick Briant
                AR2 Paul Williams
                TMO Glenn Newman

                Crusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
                Date Saturday 21 July
                Kick-off 19:35 local

                Referee Mike Fraser
                AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
                AR2 Brendon Pickerill
                TMO Shane McDermott

                Waratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
                Date Saturday 21 July
                Kick-off 20:05 local

                Referee Angus Gardner
                AR1 Nic Berry
                AR2 Will Houston
                TMO George Ayoub

                Lions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
                Date Saturday 21 July
                Kick-off 15:05 local

                Referee Jaco Peyper
                AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
                AR2 Egon Seconds
                TMO Marius Jonker

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                • BonesB Bones

                  Would be good if they picked up someone like Gear to replace Lowe...

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                  #3681

                  @bones said in Super Rugby News:

                  Would be good if they picked up someone like Gear to replace Lowe...

                  Rico must be in his 40's by now but he probably still goes fairly well. 😉

                  Meanwhile, the Chiefs look like they have midfield spot open with the idiot going to Japan and Maori Jesus walking across the water to France, so Lowe should head there.

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                  • barbarianB barbarian

                    Refs for the weekend:

                    Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
                    Date Friday 20 July
                    Kick-off 19:35 local

                    Referee Glen Jackson
                    AR1 Nick Briant
                    AR2 Paul Williams
                    TMO Glenn Newman

                    Crusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
                    Date Saturday 21 July
                    Kick-off 19:35 local

                    Referee Mike Fraser
                    AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
                    AR2 Brendon Pickerill
                    TMO Shane McDermott

                    Waratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
                    Date Saturday 21 July
                    Kick-off 20:05 local

                    Referee Angus Gardner
                    AR1 Nic Berry
                    AR2 Will Houston
                    TMO George Ayoub

                    Lions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
                    Date Saturday 21 July
                    Kick-off 15:05 local

                    Referee Jaco Peyper
                    AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
                    AR2 Egon Seconds
                    TMO Marius Jonker

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                    No Quarter
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                    #3682

                    @barbarian said in Super Rugby News:

                    Refs for the weekend:

                    Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
                    Date Friday 20 July
                    Kick-off 19:35 local

                    Referee Glen Jackson

                    Well that explains the TAB odds.

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                      Wreck Diver
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                      #3683

                      TMO George Ayoub the poor Highlanders

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @bones said in Super Rugby News:

                        Would be good if they picked up someone like Gear to replace Lowe...

                        Rico must be in his 40's by now but he probably still goes fairly well. 😉

                        Meanwhile, the Chiefs look like they have midfield spot open with the idiot going to Japan and Maori Jesus walking across the water to France, so Lowe should head there.

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                        Bovidae
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                        #3684

                        @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

                        @bones said in Super Rugby News:

                        Would be good if they picked up someone like Gear to replace Lowe...

                        Rico must be in his 40's by now but he probably still goes fairly well. 😉

                        He's only got the Chiefs and Canes to go to make the full set of NZ super rugby teams. There are 9 other provinces he can choose from too.

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby News:

                          Refs for the weekend:

                          Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
                          Date Friday 20 July
                          Kick-off 19:35 local

                          Referee Glen Jackson

                          Well that explains the TAB odds.

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                          @no-quarter said in Super Rugby News:

                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby News:

                          Refs for the weekend:

                          Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
                          Date Friday 20 July
                          Kick-off 19:35 local

                          Referee Glen Jackson

                          Well that explains the TAB odds.

                          It’s a real conundrum, a former Chiefs player reffing the Hurricanes v Chiefs at Welly.

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                          • F footy01

                            Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

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                            #3686

                            @footy01 said in Super Rugby News:

                            Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

                            And did a better job in that 20 minutes than any of the other “prospects” floating around.

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                              Not to mention an Aussie reffing Tahs/Clan and a Saffer on Lions/Jags.

                              Why open yourself up to criticism like this? I don't demand neutral refs in all circumstances, but surely Jacko could do Lions/Jags, Peyper could do Tahs/Clan and Gardner could do Chiefs/Canes and we'd remove any chance of a 'ref bias' accusation by any team or fanbase...

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                              • barbarianB barbarian

                                Not to mention an Aussie reffing Tahs/Clan and a Saffer on Lions/Jags.

                                Why open yourself up to criticism like this? I don't demand neutral refs in all circumstances, but surely Jacko could do Lions/Jags, Peyper could do Tahs/Clan and Gardner could do Chiefs/Canes and we'd remove any chance of a 'ref bias' accusation by any team or fanbase...

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                                #3688

                                @barbarian don't bring logic and common sense into the equation

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                                • F footy01

                                  Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

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                                  wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
                                  #3689

                                  @footy01 said in Super Rugby News:

                                  Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

                                  hate to be picky, but, well...you say he has never played 1st 5 in his life, then go on to say except that one time..

                                  Think the comment is more that JB is oft touted on here as being able to play anywhere.

                                  @barbarian yep, SANZAR do like to leave the door open for criticism, assume all in the name of saving a few $$$

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                                    SANZAAR did away with neutral refs a few seasons ago so ignore common sense.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @bones Going for the easy upvotes again? This dig at me is even poor for your standards.

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                                      #3691

                                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                      @bones Going for the easy upvotes again? This dig at me is even poor for your standards.

                                      Oh waaaah.

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                                      • barbarianB barbarian

                                        Refs for the weekend:

                                        Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
                                        Date Friday 20 July
                                        Kick-off 19:35 local

                                        Referee Glen Jackson
                                        AR1 Nick Briant
                                        AR2 Paul Williams
                                        TMO Glenn Newman

                                        Crusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
                                        Date Saturday 21 July
                                        Kick-off 19:35 local

                                        Referee Mike Fraser
                                        AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
                                        AR2 Brendon Pickerill
                                        TMO Shane McDermott

                                        Waratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
                                        Date Saturday 21 July
                                        Kick-off 20:05 local

                                        Referee Angus Gardner
                                        AR1 Nic Berry
                                        AR2 Will Houston
                                        TMO George Ayoub

                                        Lions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
                                        Date Saturday 21 July
                                        Kick-off 15:05 local

                                        Referee Jaco Peyper
                                        AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
                                        AR2 Egon Seconds
                                        TMO Marius Jonker

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                                        #3692

                                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Refs for the weekend:

                                        Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
                                        Date Friday 20 July
                                        Kick-off 19:35 local

                                        Referee Glen Jackson
                                        AR1 Nick Briant
                                        AR2 Paul Williams
                                        TMO Glenn Newman

                                        Crusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
                                        Date Saturday 21 July
                                        Kick-off 19:35 local

                                        Referee Mike Fraser
                                        AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
                                        AR2 Brendon Pickerill
                                        TMO Shane McDermott

                                        Waratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
                                        Date Saturday 21 July
                                        Kick-off 20:05 local

                                        Referee Angus Gardner
                                        AR1 Nic Berry
                                        AR2 Will Houston
                                        TMO George Ayoub

                                        Lions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
                                        Date Saturday 21 July
                                        Kick-off 15:05 local

                                        Referee Jaco Peyper
                                        AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
                                        AR2 Egon Seconds
                                        TMO Marius Jonker

                                        Just in terms of the vibe it would not be massively expensive to switch the referee teams for the Saders v Shorks and Tahs v Clan.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @footy01 said in Super Rugby News:

                                          Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

                                          hate to be picky, but, well...you say he has never played 1st 5 in his life, then go on to say except that one time..

                                          Think the comment is more that JB is oft touted on here as being able to play anywhere.

                                          @barbarian yep, SANZAR do like to leave the door open for criticism, assume all in the name of saving a few $$$

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                                          #3693

                                          @taniwharugby Jordie's height would be a significant disadvantage playing first five at high levels.

                                          Would cost him crucial fractions of seconds in doing everything - especially the mechanics of things like clearing kicks under pressure.

                                          I think there's obvious reasons why halfbacks and first fives are usually the smallest guys in the team - because big guys simply aren't deft enough to play there.

                                          To answer mimic's original question - I don't think anyone whose say matters would see him as a potential first five.

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