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    Not to mention an Aussie reffing Tahs/Clan and a Saffer on Lions/Jags.

    Why open yourself up to criticism like this? I don't demand neutral refs in all circumstances, but surely Jacko could do Lions/Jags, Peyper could do Tahs/Clan and Gardner could do Chiefs/Canes and we'd remove any chance of a 'ref bias' accusation by any team or fanbase...

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    • barbarianB barbarian

      Not to mention an Aussie reffing Tahs/Clan and a Saffer on Lions/Jags.

      Why open yourself up to criticism like this? I don't demand neutral refs in all circumstances, but surely Jacko could do Lions/Jags, Peyper could do Tahs/Clan and Gardner could do Chiefs/Canes and we'd remove any chance of a 'ref bias' accusation by any team or fanbase...

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      @barbarian don't bring logic and common sense into the equation

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      • F footy01

        Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

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        #3689

        @footy01 said in Super Rugby News:

        Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

        hate to be picky, but, well...you say he has never played 1st 5 in his life, then go on to say except that one time..

        Think the comment is more that JB is oft touted on here as being able to play anywhere.

        @barbarian yep, SANZAR do like to leave the door open for criticism, assume all in the name of saving a few $$$

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          SANZAAR did away with neutral refs a few seasons ago so ignore common sense.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @bones Going for the easy upvotes again? This dig at me is even poor for your standards.

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            @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

            @bones Going for the easy upvotes again? This dig at me is even poor for your standards.

            Oh waaaah.

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            • barbarianB barbarian

              Refs for the weekend:

              Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
              Date Friday 20 July
              Kick-off 19:35 local

              Referee Glen Jackson
              AR1 Nick Briant
              AR2 Paul Williams
              TMO Glenn Newman

              Crusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
              Date Saturday 21 July
              Kick-off 19:35 local

              Referee Mike Fraser
              AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
              AR2 Brendon Pickerill
              TMO Shane McDermott

              Waratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
              Date Saturday 21 July
              Kick-off 20:05 local

              Referee Angus Gardner
              AR1 Nic Berry
              AR2 Will Houston
              TMO George Ayoub

              Lions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
              Date Saturday 21 July
              Kick-off 15:05 local

              Referee Jaco Peyper
              AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
              AR2 Egon Seconds
              TMO Marius Jonker

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              @barbarian said in Super Rugby News:

              Refs for the weekend:

              Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
              Date Friday 20 July
              Kick-off 19:35 local

              Referee Glen Jackson
              AR1 Nick Briant
              AR2 Paul Williams
              TMO Glenn Newman

              Crusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
              Date Saturday 21 July
              Kick-off 19:35 local

              Referee Mike Fraser
              AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
              AR2 Brendon Pickerill
              TMO Shane McDermott

              Waratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
              Date Saturday 21 July
              Kick-off 20:05 local

              Referee Angus Gardner
              AR1 Nic Berry
              AR2 Will Houston
              TMO George Ayoub

              Lions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
              Date Saturday 21 July
              Kick-off 15:05 local

              Referee Jaco Peyper
              AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
              AR2 Egon Seconds
              TMO Marius Jonker

              Just in terms of the vibe it would not be massively expensive to switch the referee teams for the Saders v Shorks and Tahs v Clan.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @footy01 said in Super Rugby News:

                Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

                hate to be picky, but, well...you say he has never played 1st 5 in his life, then go on to say except that one time..

                Think the comment is more that JB is oft touted on here as being able to play anywhere.

                @barbarian yep, SANZAR do like to leave the door open for criticism, assume all in the name of saving a few $$$

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                #3693

                @taniwharugby Jordie's height would be a significant disadvantage playing first five at high levels.

                Would cost him crucial fractions of seconds in doing everything - especially the mechanics of things like clearing kicks under pressure.

                I think there's obvious reasons why halfbacks and first fives are usually the smallest guys in the team - because big guys simply aren't deft enough to play there.

                To answer mimic's original question - I don't think anyone whose say matters would see him as a potential first five.

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                  @Chris-B agree completely. He's a class player so would make a decent fist of it (as he did against the Lions), but he's not a natural fit. Fullback his height is a real advantage, particularly under the high balls, so I really like him there - especially given the depth of talent we have in the centres at the moment.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    @Chris-B agree completely. He's a class player so would make a decent fist of it (as he did against the Lions), but he's not a natural fit. Fullback his height is a real advantage, particularly under the high balls, so I really like him there - especially given the depth of talent we have in the centres at the moment.

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                    @no-quarter Me too (without a hashtag). 🙂

                    It's handy that guys have a bit of utility value, but it's a dangerous ploy getting too fascinated with shoe-horning guys - who are world class in one position - into other positions where they're not.

                    Could pick a pretty terrible team of good players who played out of position.

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                        @tim Read somewhere they were really good friends..Really..!

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                          @tim Read somewhere they were really good friends..Really..!

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                          @steven-harris Was interesting listening to Scotty Stevenson's podcast today - he said that Mafi was constantly bagging his teammates on the field, really yelling at them.

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                            Article is behind a paywall

                            https://twitter.com/JamiePandaram/status/1019523572367163398

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                              A shame really as he is a world class player. However, he does need to be punished for this sort of behaviour as much as I would like to see him turn out for Japan at the world cup.

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                                @no-quarter Me too (without a hashtag). 🙂

                                It's handy that guys have a bit of utility value, but it's a dangerous ploy getting too fascinated with shoe-horning guys - who are world class in one position - into other positions where they're not.

                                Could pick a pretty terrible team of good players who played out of position.

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                                #3701

                                @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

                                It's handy that guys have a bit of utility value, but it's a dangerous ploy getting too fascinated with shoe-horning guys - who are world class in one position - into other positions where they're not.
                                Could pick a pretty terrible team of good players who played out of position.

                                I think a Blues fan should get to pick the number 12 in that team.

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                                  #3702

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105624157/schoolboy-star-isaiah-punivai-commits-to-crusaders-academy-despite-move-to-auckland

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                                    #3703

                                    Geez, Mafi is a coward, too. Had help from his brother when he beat up Timani.

                                    Here's Timani's story about what allegedly happened: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thought-gong-die-timani-reveals-gruesome-details-alleged-attack

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                                      Geez, Mafi is a coward, too. Had help from his brother when he beat up Timani.

                                      Here's Timani's story about what allegedly happened: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thought-gong-die-timani-reveals-gruesome-details-alleged-attack

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                                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                      Geez, Mafi is a coward, too. Had help from his brother when he beat up Timani.

                                      Here's Timani's story about what allegedly happened: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thought-gong-die-timani-reveals-gruesome-details-alleged-attack

                                      Timani stuffed up. Never insult a family member of an islander. Team mate or not, blood is blood.

                                      In saying that, it doesnt justify Mafis actions. He should've told Timani to go, but I can imagine Mafis family egging him on with the "are you gonna let him talk to your family like that?". With alcohol around, I can understand why it happened.

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                                      • mimicM mimic

                                        @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Geez, Mafi is a coward, too. Had help from his brother when he beat up Timani.

                                        Here's Timani's story about what allegedly happened: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thought-gong-die-timani-reveals-gruesome-details-alleged-attack

                                        Timani stuffed up. Never insult a family member of an islander. Team mate or not, blood is blood.

                                        In saying that, it doesnt justify Mafis actions. He should've told Timani to go, but I can imagine Mafis family egging him on with the "are you gonna let him talk to your family like that?". With alcohol around, I can understand why it happened.

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                                        #3705

                                        @mimic Complete overreaction from Mafi. But yeah, I have family on my father's side that would be very offended as well.

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                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092910

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