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  • barbarianB barbarian

    Not to mention an Aussie reffing Tahs/Clan and a Saffer on Lions/Jags.

    Why open yourself up to criticism like this? I don't demand neutral refs in all circumstances, but surely Jacko could do Lions/Jags, Peyper could do Tahs/Clan and Gardner could do Chiefs/Canes and we'd remove any chance of a 'ref bias' accusation by any team or fanbase...

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    @barbarian don't bring logic and common sense into the equation

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      Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

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      @footy01 said in Super Rugby News:

      Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

      hate to be picky, but, well...you say he has never played 1st 5 in his life, then go on to say except that one time..

      Think the comment is more that JB is oft touted on here as being able to play anywhere.

      @barbarian yep, SANZAR do like to leave the door open for criticism, assume all in the name of saving a few $$$

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        SANZAAR did away with neutral refs a few seasons ago so ignore common sense.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @bones Going for the easy upvotes again? This dig at me is even poor for your standards.

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          @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

          @bones Going for the easy upvotes again? This dig at me is even poor for your standards.

          Oh waaaah.

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          • barbarianB barbarian

            Refs for the weekend:

            Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
            Date Friday 20 July
            Kick-off 19:35 local

            Referee Glen Jackson
            AR1 Nick Briant
            AR2 Paul Williams
            TMO Glenn Newman

            Crusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
            Date Saturday 21 July
            Kick-off 19:35 local

            Referee Mike Fraser
            AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
            AR2 Brendon Pickerill
            TMO Shane McDermott

            Waratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
            Date Saturday 21 July
            Kick-off 20:05 local

            Referee Angus Gardner
            AR1 Nic Berry
            AR2 Will Houston
            TMO George Ayoub

            Lions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
            Date Saturday 21 July
            Kick-off 15:05 local

            Referee Jaco Peyper
            AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
            AR2 Egon Seconds
            TMO Marius Jonker

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            @barbarian said in Super Rugby News:

            Refs for the weekend:

            Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
            Date Friday 20 July
            Kick-off 19:35 local

            Referee Glen Jackson
            AR1 Nick Briant
            AR2 Paul Williams
            TMO Glenn Newman

            Crusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
            Date Saturday 21 July
            Kick-off 19:35 local

            Referee Mike Fraser
            AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
            AR2 Brendon Pickerill
            TMO Shane McDermott

            Waratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
            Date Saturday 21 July
            Kick-off 20:05 local

            Referee Angus Gardner
            AR1 Nic Berry
            AR2 Will Houston
            TMO George Ayoub

            Lions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
            Date Saturday 21 July
            Kick-off 15:05 local

            Referee Jaco Peyper
            AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
            AR2 Egon Seconds
            TMO Marius Jonker

            Just in terms of the vibe it would not be massively expensive to switch the referee teams for the Saders v Shorks and Tahs v Clan.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @footy01 said in Super Rugby News:

              Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes

              hate to be picky, but, well...you say he has never played 1st 5 in his life, then go on to say except that one time..

              Think the comment is more that JB is oft touted on here as being able to play anywhere.

              @barbarian yep, SANZAR do like to leave the door open for criticism, assume all in the name of saving a few $$$

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              @taniwharugby Jordie's height would be a significant disadvantage playing first five at high levels.

              Would cost him crucial fractions of seconds in doing everything - especially the mechanics of things like clearing kicks under pressure.

              I think there's obvious reasons why halfbacks and first fives are usually the smallest guys in the team - because big guys simply aren't deft enough to play there.

              To answer mimic's original question - I don't think anyone whose say matters would see him as a potential first five.

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                @Chris-B agree completely. He's a class player so would make a decent fist of it (as he did against the Lions), but he's not a natural fit. Fullback his height is a real advantage, particularly under the high balls, so I really like him there - especially given the depth of talent we have in the centres at the moment.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  @Chris-B agree completely. He's a class player so would make a decent fist of it (as he did against the Lions), but he's not a natural fit. Fullback his height is a real advantage, particularly under the high balls, so I really like him there - especially given the depth of talent we have in the centres at the moment.

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                  @no-quarter Me too (without a hashtag). 🙂

                  It's handy that guys have a bit of utility value, but it's a dangerous ploy getting too fascinated with shoe-horning guys - who are world class in one position - into other positions where they're not.

                  Could pick a pretty terrible team of good players who played out of position.

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                      @tim Read somewhere they were really good friends..Really..!

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                        @tim Read somewhere they were really good friends..Really..!

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                        @steven-harris Was interesting listening to Scotty Stevenson's podcast today - he said that Mafi was constantly bagging his teammates on the field, really yelling at them.

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                          Article is behind a paywall

                          https://twitter.com/JamiePandaram/status/1019523572367163398

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                            A shame really as he is a world class player. However, he does need to be punished for this sort of behaviour as much as I would like to see him turn out for Japan at the world cup.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @no-quarter Me too (without a hashtag). 🙂

                              It's handy that guys have a bit of utility value, but it's a dangerous ploy getting too fascinated with shoe-horning guys - who are world class in one position - into other positions where they're not.

                              Could pick a pretty terrible team of good players who played out of position.

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                              @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

                              It's handy that guys have a bit of utility value, but it's a dangerous ploy getting too fascinated with shoe-horning guys - who are world class in one position - into other positions where they're not.
                              Could pick a pretty terrible team of good players who played out of position.

                              I think a Blues fan should get to pick the number 12 in that team.

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                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105624157/schoolboy-star-isaiah-punivai-commits-to-crusaders-academy-despite-move-to-auckland

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                                  Geez, Mafi is a coward, too. Had help from his brother when he beat up Timani.

                                  Here's Timani's story about what allegedly happened: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thought-gong-die-timani-reveals-gruesome-details-alleged-attack

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Geez, Mafi is a coward, too. Had help from his brother when he beat up Timani.

                                    Here's Timani's story about what allegedly happened: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thought-gong-die-timani-reveals-gruesome-details-alleged-attack

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                                    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                    Geez, Mafi is a coward, too. Had help from his brother when he beat up Timani.

                                    Here's Timani's story about what allegedly happened: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thought-gong-die-timani-reveals-gruesome-details-alleged-attack

                                    Timani stuffed up. Never insult a family member of an islander. Team mate or not, blood is blood.

                                    In saying that, it doesnt justify Mafis actions. He should've told Timani to go, but I can imagine Mafis family egging him on with the "are you gonna let him talk to your family like that?". With alcohol around, I can understand why it happened.

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                                    • mimicM mimic

                                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                      Geez, Mafi is a coward, too. Had help from his brother when he beat up Timani.

                                      Here's Timani's story about what allegedly happened: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thought-gong-die-timani-reveals-gruesome-details-alleged-attack

                                      Timani stuffed up. Never insult a family member of an islander. Team mate or not, blood is blood.

                                      In saying that, it doesnt justify Mafis actions. He should've told Timani to go, but I can imagine Mafis family egging him on with the "are you gonna let him talk to your family like that?". With alcohol around, I can understand why it happened.

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                                      #3705

                                      @mimic Complete overreaction from Mafi. But yeah, I have family on my father's side that would be very offended as well.

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                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092910

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                                          New players collective and TV deal in 2020, and lots moving on after rwc = lots more money for younger types. Common sense to go for short deal

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