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    #745

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

    > @Chris-B Mate, your memory is due an upgrade. Guyton only started in rounds 2, 13 and 14. Hall started in all other rounds. By the way, I checked that. 
    

    Fair enough - I would have checked myself, but frankly I couldn't be arsed. 🙂 My memory was that Hall had lost his place after a drubbing in South Africa and Guyton played most of the remainder. Evidently incorrect. Possibly slanted by my impression that the previous season he also started out as number one halfback but gradually got supplanted by the other Mako$ halfback, Jimmy Cowan - possibly also incorrect (I haven't checked).

    > Also, it's more likely that Hall wanted to move than that Tana wouldn't want to keep him. The announcement of Pulu's signing was made on 11 April 2016; Hall's signing with the Crusaders was announced on 9 June. I mean, why would Hall want to stay at the Blues if he has to do a step down from no. 1 halfback to number 2, while he can seriously compete for the no. 1 halfback spot at the Crusaders where he's replacing Ellis.
    

    I don't think that really follows, though. If you're the number one halfback at a franchise, why wouldn't you want to stay and fight for your spot? It's only Pulu that they've signed and - if you're correct about Hall's place in the NZ pecking order, he'd have to be roughly 6th to Pulu's roughly 5th.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

      > @Chris-B Mate, your memory is due an upgrade. Guyton only started in rounds 2, 13 and 14. Hall started in all other rounds. By the way, I checked that. 
      

      Fair enough - I would have checked myself, but frankly I couldn't be arsed. 🙂 My memory was that Hall had lost his place after a drubbing in South Africa and Guyton played most of the remainder. Evidently incorrect. Possibly slanted by my impression that the previous season he also started out as number one halfback but gradually got supplanted by the other Mako$ halfback, Jimmy Cowan - possibly also incorrect (I haven't checked).

      > Also, it's more likely that Hall wanted to move than that Tana wouldn't want to keep him. The announcement of Pulu's signing was made on 11 April 2016; Hall's signing with the Crusaders was announced on 9 June. I mean, why would Hall want to stay at the Blues if he has to do a step down from no. 1 halfback to number 2, while he can seriously compete for the no. 1 halfback spot at the Crusaders where he's replacing Ellis.
      

      I don't think that really follows, though. If you're the number one halfback at a franchise, why wouldn't you want to stay and fight for your spot? It's only Pulu that they've signed and - if you're correct about Hall's place in the NZ pecking order, he'd have to be roughly 6th to Pulu's roughly 5th.

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      @Chris-B.

      Fair enough - I would have checked myself, but frankly I couldn't be arsed. 🙂 My memory was that Hall had lost his place after a drubbing in South Africa and Guyton played most of the remainder. Evidently incorrect. Possibly slanted by my impression that the previous season he also started out as number one halfback but gradually got supplanted by the other Mako$ halfback, Jimmy Cowan - possibly also incorrect (I haven't checked).

      Bryn Hall didn't play the year prior (2015) as he was out pretty much all season injured. I don't think he played one minute for the Blues in 2015.

      But yes Guyton was contracted for another year (2017) and they have young Nock signed up for a while. Based on this Blues would have known this when they signed Pulu that Hall would go.

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        @Chris-B.

        Fair enough - I would have checked myself, but frankly I couldn't be arsed. 🙂 My memory was that Hall had lost his place after a drubbing in South Africa and Guyton played most of the remainder. Evidently incorrect. Possibly slanted by my impression that the previous season he also started out as number one halfback but gradually got supplanted by the other Mako$ halfback, Jimmy Cowan - possibly also incorrect (I haven't checked).

        Bryn Hall didn't play the year prior (2015) as he was out pretty much all season injured. I don't think he played one minute for the Blues in 2015.

        But yes Guyton was contracted for another year (2017) and they have young Nock signed up for a while. Based on this Blues would have known this when they signed Pulu that Hall would go.

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        @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

        Bryn Hall didn't play the year prior (2015) as he was out pretty much all season injured. I don't think he played one minute for the Blues in 2015.

        Well, let's hope he turns out to be fucking good at the Crusaders. A revelation who is two steps up on Drummie would be most welcome! 🙂

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          Fuck Bryn Hall and Leon Fukofuka as the 2 halfbacks to choose from would hardly inspire me with confidence (both Blues outcasts as well). Maybe Jono Hickey could join as cover for Drummond as well.

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          • African MonkeyA African Monkey

            Fuck Bryn Hall and Leon Fukofuka as the 2 halfbacks to choose from would hardly inspire me with confidence (both Blues outcasts as well). Maybe Jono Hickey could join as cover for Drummond as well.

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            @African-Monkey said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

            Fuck Bryn Hall and Leon Fukofuka as the 2 halfbacks to choose from would hardly inspire me with confidence (both Blues outcasts as well). Maybe Jono Hickey could join as cover for Drummond as well.

            They have tried to sign him before.

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              @African-Monkey said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

              Fuck Bryn Hall and Leon Fukofuka as the 2 halfbacks to choose from would hardly inspire me with confidence (both Blues outcasts as well). Maybe Jono Hickey could join as cover for Drummond as well.

              They have tried to sign him before.

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              @Tim Hahaha forgot about that. Northern Districts blocked it didn't they? Fuck talk about scraping the barrel....

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                Blues re-signed for 2017 campaign: Prattley, Francis, Scrafton, Cowley-Tuioti, Mafileo, Kara Pryor

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Blues re-signed for 2017 campaign: Prattley, Francis, Scrafton, Cowley-Tuioti, Mafileo, Kara Pryor

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                  @KiwiMurph Source?

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                    @KiwiMurph Source?

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                    @Tim http://theblues.co.nz/six-blues-re-sign/

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                      Francis has developed quite well IMO. It will be good to have him and West backing Jordie Barrett up in that 10 spot next season.

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                        Francis has developed quite well IMO. It will be good to have him and West backing Jordie Barrett up in that 10 spot next season.

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                        @pukunui Haha I wish.

                        But yes I thought Francis was good value at 12 for the Blues - once he moved to 12 the balance of the Blues backs and attack improved greatly. Happy with that re-signing.

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                          And he is not the standard bash and crash merchant so widely praised in a lot of areas.

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                            I'm surprised he's re-signed. I just assumed he'd go back to England, probably make more money, and try and compete for an England shirt. Wouldn't they snap him up over there?

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                              I suspect in a similar situation in Blues enviroments of the past he would have bailed - bit of an example of how the culture looks to have changed at the Blues.

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                                Where's he gonna play in the Blues backline? SBW and Moala will be fighting it out at 12. So does Tana ruin all the time invested into Ihaia West and pick Piers at 10?

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                                  Where's he gonna play in the Blues backline? SBW and Moala will be fighting it out at 12. So does Tana ruin all the time invested into Ihaia West and pick Piers at 10?

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                                  @Wurzel Unlikely, he'll probably be bench cover, but will start the season at 12 with SBWs injury.

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                                    Confirmed Jordie Barrett to the Canes for 2 years.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      Confirmed Jordie Barrett to the Canes for 2 years.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                                      Confirmed Jordie Barrett to the Canes for 2 years.

                                      Wow. Good signing for wellington and he is a better kicker than his brother no?

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                                        hydro11
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                                        I imagine he will be slotting in at fullback next season.

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                                          I imagine he will be slotting in at fullback next season.

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                                          @hydro11 said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                                          I imagine he will be slotting in at fullback next season.

                                          What is NMS's preferred position? Fullback or wing? Jane has still one year on his contract, hasn't he?
                                          With both Woodward and Marshall going, will the other newbie be Peter Umaga-Jensen?

                                          I guess the likes of Mason Emerson and Jonah Lowe will miss out again at the Canes?

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