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  • SmudgeS Offline
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    Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

    EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      JMac not making even as a finalist is a fucking travesty

      approximately a thousand Group 1s last year, including several big ones. Won in HK. Winner of the World's Best Jockey award for the year.

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      @mariner4life

      With all due respect to the other nominees, this is an absolute travesty of epic proportions. Not sure how the worlds best jockey can be overlooked like this.

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        Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

        EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

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        @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

        Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

        EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

        it's fucking ridiculous! A fucking trampoliner??? That's a toy you buy your kids and they grow out of by the time they are 12
        Squash? A sport played exclusively by Wall St hedge fund managers and stock brokers in movies.
        A V8 Bogan car driver? In a class raced only in Australia? Which non-sport watching dipshits voted on this crap?

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        • StargazerS Offline
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          Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

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            @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

            Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

            And our last finalist is Shane van Gisbergen's engine

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

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              @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

              Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

              Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

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                Steven Alker should at least have been nominated.

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                • SmudgeS Smudge

                  @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                  Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

                  Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

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                  @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

                  @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                  Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

                  Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

                  Add to that, strength, discipline , vision, balance and courage.

                  If these things weren’t real and difficult, we would see wins shared pretty evenly amongst the jockeys every year.

                  We do not

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                  • SmudgeS Smudge

                    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                    Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

                    Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

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                    I'd also make the point NZ has produced the best jockey in the world in 2022 (JMac) and the best harness driver in America (and really the world) in Dexter Dunn. Two generational talents at the absolute top of their respective games at the same time.

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                    • SmudgeS Smudge

                      @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                      Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

                      Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

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                      @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

                      @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                      Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

                      Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

                      Fucking Amen.

                      You’d be fucking ignorant to suggest otherwise

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        Steven Alker should at least have been nominated.

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                        @taniwharugby said in Halberg Awards:

                        Steven Alker should at least have been nominated.

                        Agree! Our golfers have really represented on the world stage this year. Lydia gets the obvious mention but Steve has been phenomenal

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

                          @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                          Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

                          Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

                          Add to that, strength, discipline , vision, balance and courage.

                          If these things weren’t real and difficult, we would see wins shared pretty evenly amongst the jockeys every year.

                          We do not

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                          @voodoo said in Halberg Awards:

                          @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

                          @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                          Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

                          Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

                          Add to that, strength, discipline , vision, balance and courage.

                          If these things weren’t real and difficult, we would see wins shared pretty evenly amongst the jockeys every year.

                          We do not

                          Anyone who doesn't think elite jockeys are athletes have never seen them train

                          Their power to weight ratios would be incredible

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

                            Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

                            EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

                            it's fucking ridiculous! A fucking trampoliner??? That's a toy you buy your kids and they grow out of by the time they are 12
                            Squash? A sport played exclusively by Wall St hedge fund managers and stock brokers in movies.
                            A V8 Bogan car driver? In a class raced only in Australia? Which non-sport watching dipshits voted on this crap?

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                            #55

                            @mariner4life said in Halberg Awards:

                            @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

                            Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

                            EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

                            it's fucking ridiculous! A fucking trampoliner??? That's a toy you buy your kids and they grow out of by the time they are 12
                            > Squash? A sport played exclusively by Wall St hedge fund managers and stock brokers in movies.
                            A V8 Bogan car driver? In a class raced only in Australia? Which non-sport watching dipshits voted on this crap?

                            Although I'm sure your jockey point has serious merit, you must at least acknowledge the irony here ...

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              60th ISPS Handa Halberg Awards Finalists Announced

                              Finalists

                              Full list of for the 60th ISPS Handa Halberg Awards

                              ISPS Handa Para Athlete/Para Team of the Year:
                              Adam Hall (Para skiing)
                              Cameron Leslie (Para swimming)
                              Corey Peters (Para skiing)
                              Nicole Murray (Para cycling)
                              Dame Sophie Pascoe (Para swimming)


                              High Performance Sport New Zealand Sportswoman of the Year:
                              Ellesse Andrews (cycling – track)
                              Dame Lisa Carrington (sprint kayak)
                              Lydia Ko (golf)
                              Ruahei Demant (rugby)
                              Zoi Sadowski-Synnott (snow sport - snowboarding)


                              ISPS Handa Sportsman on the Year:
                              Aaron Gate (cycling – track and road)
                              Dylan Schmidt (gymnastics - trampoline)
                              Nico Porteous (snow sport- freeskiing)
                              Paul Coll (squash)
                              Shane van Gisbergen (motorsport)


                              ISPS Handa Team of the Year:
                              Black Ferns (rugby)
                              Joelle King and Amanda Landers-Murphy (squash – women’s doubles)
                              Joelle King and Paul Coll (squash – mixed doubles)
                              Kerri Williams and Grace Prendergast (rowing - pair)
                              New Zealand Eventing Team (equestrian)


                              Buddle Findlay Coach of the Year:
                              Craig Palmer (cycling – men’s track)
                              Gordon Walker (sprint kayak)
                              Sean Thompson (snow sport- snowboarding)
                              Tommy Pyatt (snow sport - freeskiing)
                              Wayne Smith (rugby)


                              Sky Sport Emerging Talent:
                              Cameron Gray (swimming)
                              Gustav Legnavsky (snowsport - freeski halfpipe)
                              Jenna Hastings (cycling – downhill mountain bike)
                              Joshua Willmer (swimming)
                              Tara Vaughan (sprint kayak)


                              The winners will be announced at the 60th ISPS Handa Halberg Awards ceremony at Spark Arena, Auckland on Wednesday 15 February 2023 and broadcast live on Sky Sport and free to air on Prime TV from 8:30pm.

                              The event will be both a significant milestone of achievement and one of reflection and remembrance as the first Awards ceremony since the passing of the man whose name adorns this occasion. The late Sir Murray Halberg (ONZ) re-established the Awards in 1963 to honour and celebrate sporting excellence, and most importantly, the occasion formed the major fundraiser for the Halberg Foundation. Sir Murray established the charity which aims to enhance the lives of physically disabled young New Zealanders by enabling them to participate in sport and recreation.

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                              #56

                              @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                              Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

                              @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                              ISPS Handa Sportsman on the Year:
                              ...
                              Shane van Gisbergen (motorsport)

                              ISPS Handa Team of the Year:
                              ...
                              New Zealand Eventing Team (equestrian

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                                Next time, I'll use an emoji, guys! Take a pick: :fishing_pole: :face_with_tongue: :winking_face: :winking_face_with_tongue: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                Edited to add that I'd support an award going to a jockey and his horse more than just going to the jockey alone. It's the horse who's doing the hardest work.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  @mariner4life said in Halberg Awards:

                                  @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

                                  Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

                                  EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

                                  it's fucking ridiculous! A fucking trampoliner??? That's a toy you buy your kids and they grow out of by the time they are 12
                                  > Squash? A sport played exclusively by Wall St hedge fund managers and stock brokers in movies.
                                  A V8 Bogan car driver? In a class raced only in Australia? Which non-sport watching dipshits voted on this crap?

                                  Although I'm sure your jockey point has serious merit, you must at least acknowledge the irony here ...

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                                  @MajorRage said in Halberg Awards:

                                  @mariner4life said in Halberg Awards:

                                  @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

                                  Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

                                  EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

                                  it's fucking ridiculous! A fucking trampoliner??? That's a toy you buy your kids and they grow out of by the time they are 12
                                  > Squash? A sport played exclusively by Wall St hedge fund managers and stock brokers in movies.
                                  A V8 Bogan car driver? In a class raced only in Australia? Which non-sport watching dipshits voted on this crap?

                                  Although I'm sure your jockey point has serious merit, you must at least acknowledge the irony here ...

                                  I acknowledge nothing

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Next time, I'll use an emoji, guys! Take a pick: :fishing_pole: :face_with_tongue: :winking_face: :winking_face_with_tongue: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                    Edited to add that I'd support an award going to a jockey and his horse more than just going to the jockey alone. It's the horse who's doing the hardest work.

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                                    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

                                    Next time, I'll use an emoji, guys! Take a pick: :fishing_pole: :face_with_tongue: :winking_face: :winking_face_with_tongue: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                    Edited to add that I'd support an award going to a jockey and his horse more than just going to the jockey alone. It's the horse who's doing the hardest work.

                                    All very well but jockeys don't just ride one horse - they're often riding 5 or 6 on a day. Plus it's "sportsman" of the year.

                                    Let's just be very clear here - racing is across all six inhabited continents. It is a global sport and based on McDonald's efforts (even in largely Australia) he has been rated as the world's best.

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                                      How good can he be if he can't even get nominated for a Halberg?

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                                        If there is an Olympic or Commonwealth games those athletes will always dominate the nominations that year. I'd be very surprised if Gate and Andrews don't win.

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                                          If there is an Olympic or Commonwealth games those athletes will always dominate the nominations that year. I'd be very surprised if Gate and Andrews don't win.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Halberg Awards:

                                          If there is an Olympic or Commonwealth games those athletes will always dominate the nominations that year. I'd be very surprised if Gate and Andrews don't win.

                                          Maybe Zoi over Andrew’s but both would be worthy.

                                          ZSS was first ever Winter Olympics Gold for NZ. That must gain some votes.

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