Ross Taylor retires
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@godder said in Ross Taylor retires:
- most international centuries
- most combined centuries against Windies, Bangles and Zimbots
We could do with another one tomorrow too
@act-crusader said in Ross Taylor retires:
@godder said in Ross Taylor retires:
- most international centuries
- most combined centuries against Windies, Bangles and Zimbots
We could do with another one tomorrow too
What a way to go out. Saving us again
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@victor-meldrew said in Ross Taylor retires:
Seems to me he's a bit like Tim Henman to British Tennis - and I mean that as a high compliment. Never quite no.1 but always in the top 5-10 for years, carried his country on his own shoulders for plenty of his career and was, and is, a huge inspiration for the players who followed in his footsteps
That's a bit harsh. Henman never won anything. Rossco is a World Test Champion, having anchored the chase in the final session and hit the winning runs.
My 2021 sporting highlight for sure.
@tewaio said in Ross Taylor retires:
My 2021 sporting highlight for sure.
We did a small poll of people at a NY eve dinner, about their favourite moment/event of 2021 overall. No mention of sports involved in it.
4/5 people voted for the WTC.
3 of those 4 - had had their first-born child that year.
The only dissenter - a dirty foreigner, who voted for her first-born child being born. Filthy. -
@mariner4life It's only Bangladesh they are playing so had better make that run out for about 250.
@higgins said in Ross Taylor retires:
@mariner4life It's only Bangladesh they are playing so had better make that run out for about 250.
#agedlikemilk
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Good read, even gives him grief about the run outs !
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Some ODI stats
https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1479747015873478658?t=-f-5UbU61A37tClUgGhUxA&s=19
World class in that format of the game
Edit - ABdV's strike rate and average is just out of this world. Also, India plays a shit ton of ODIs, particularly on the subcontinent.
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Some ODI stats
https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1479747015873478658?t=-f-5UbU61A37tClUgGhUxA&s=19
World class in that format of the game
Edit - ABdV's strike rate and average is just out of this world. Also, India plays a shit ton of ODIs, particularly on the subcontinent.
@no-quarter said in Ross Taylor retires:
Some ODI stats
https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1479747015873478658?t=-f-5UbU61A37tClUgGhUxA&s=19
World class in that format of the game
Edit - ABdV's strike rate and average is just out of this world. Also, India plays a shit ton of ODIs, particularly on the subcontinent.
AB De Villiers was exceptional at test level too. A really underrated batsman overall for whatever reason considering he maintained that average AND strike rate like he did.
Test performance comes first in my opinion but doing the business in the shorter forms definitely helps too.
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Some ODI stats
https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1479747015873478658?t=-f-5UbU61A37tClUgGhUxA&s=19
World class in that format of the game
Edit - ABdV's strike rate and average is just out of this world. Also, India plays a shit ton of ODIs, particularly on the subcontinent.
@no-quarter said in Ross Taylor retires:
Some ODI stats
https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1479747015873478658?t=-f-5UbU61A37tClUgGhUxA&s=19
World class in that format of the game
Edit - ABdV's strike rate and average is just out of this world. Also, India plays a shit ton of ODIs, particularly on the subcontinent.
Agree, one of the all time greats in ODIs. Sir Viv is another, even now his ODI record stands up to modern standards, but in his era, was head and shoulders above the rest.
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Bastard of an interview screened during lunch today. Bloody hard watching the last few minutes when it involved Martin. Mac said it best, probably a good thing they didn't show it on the big screen at Hagley, the ground might have been flooded due to the amount of dust in the eyes.
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Bastard of an interview screened during lunch today. Bloody hard watching the last few minutes when it involved Martin. Mac said it best, probably a good thing they didn't show it on the big screen at Hagley, the ground might have been flooded due to the amount of dust in the eyes.
@synicbast said in Ross Taylor retires:
Bastard of an interview screened during lunch today. Bloody hard watching the last few minutes when it involved Martin. Mac said it best, probably a good thing they didn't show it on the big screen at Hagley, the ground might have been flooded due to the amount of dust in the eyes.
Is it available to watch on spark? Fancy a good cry
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@synicbast said in Ross Taylor retires:
Bastard of an interview screened during lunch today. Bloody hard watching the last few minutes when it involved Martin. Mac said it best, probably a good thing they didn't show it on the big screen at Hagley, the ground might have been flooded due to the amount of dust in the eyes.
Is it available to watch on spark? Fancy a good cry
@canefan said in Ross Taylor retires:
@synicbast said in Ross Taylor retires:
Bastard of an interview screened during lunch today. Bloody hard watching the last few minutes when it involved Martin. Mac said it best, probably a good thing they didn't show it on the big screen at Hagley, the ground might have been flooded due to the amount of dust in the eyes.
Is it available to watch on spark? Fancy a good cry
Just watch their first test on replay
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@canefan said in Ross Taylor retires:
@synicbast said in Ross Taylor retires:
Bastard of an interview screened during lunch today. Bloody hard watching the last few minutes when it involved Martin. Mac said it best, probably a good thing they didn't show it on the big screen at Hagley, the ground might have been flooded due to the amount of dust in the eyes.
Is it available to watch on spark? Fancy a good cry
Just watch their first test on replay
@mn5 said in Ross Taylor retires:
@canefan said in Ross Taylor retires:
@synicbast said in Ross Taylor retires:
Bastard of an interview screened during lunch today. Bloody hard watching the last few minutes when it involved Martin. Mac said it best, probably a good thing they didn't show it on the big screen at Hagley, the ground might have been flooded due to the amount of dust in the eyes.
Is it available to watch on spark? Fancy a good cry
Just watch their first test on replay
They had a 12 minute Ross Taylor thing on Spark. Didn't find it as dusty as Crowe walking onto EP at half time of the NZ-AUS CWC 2015 pool game. That was farken emotional
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Goodbye to an absolute legend, in test cricket for now.
I wonder if anyone could find an old thread midway through Rosco's career where I extrapolated his numbers to see how he finished up in comparison to what I predicted?
I'd have loved to have seen him go out with a big hundred at home, getting him to 20 in tests and potentially lifting that average back up over 45. His last couple of years in test cricket (hitting the winning runs in the WTC final aside) were slightly disappointing as he appeared to finally wane a bit. Looking at the stats his last ton was late 2019 vs England in Hamilton and in 27 subsequent innings - starting with the infamous away Australia series from December 2019 - he passed 50 just three times, plus four not outs and his average in that period was 28.73. Up until that point it was 47.12. In saying that, his best score from those 27 innings was 80 in the first innings in Perth but his series average was 25.33 So I think the clear point of demarcation between peak Rosco and waning Rosco was that series. There were people suggesting he retire at various stages during that period, but I was always all for him going on as long as possible and I'm pleased he did, despite the drop in stats.
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Goodbye to an absolute legend, in test cricket for now.
I wonder if anyone could find an old thread midway through Rosco's career where I extrapolated his numbers to see how he finished up in comparison to what I predicted?
I'd have loved to have seen him go out with a big hundred at home, getting him to 20 in tests and potentially lifting that average back up over 45. His last couple of years in test cricket (hitting the winning runs in the WTC final aside) were slightly disappointing as he appeared to finally wane a bit. Looking at the stats his last ton was late 2019 vs England in Hamilton and in 27 subsequent innings - starting with the infamous away Australia series from December 2019 - he passed 50 just three times, plus four not outs and his average in that period was 28.73. Up until that point it was 47.12. In saying that, his best score from those 27 innings was 80 in the first innings in Perth but his series average was 25.33 So I think the clear point of demarcation between peak Rosco and waning Rosco was that series. There were people suggesting he retire at various stages during that period, but I was always all for him going on as long as possible and I'm pleased he did, despite the drop in stats.
@shark said in Ross Taylor retires:
I wonder if anyone could find an old thread midway through Rosco's career where I extrapolated his numbers to see how he finished up in comparison to what I predicted?
Anything older than 2016 is probably gone
Here’s a post of yours from 2016 than talks a bit about where Taylor could end up
@shark said in Black Caps Tour to Zimbabwe:
Taylor is now 32 1/2 years old and has only played 70 tests. While I'm sure he has a few more hundreds in him to go ahead of his mentor, the late great Martin Crowe, he seems destined to retire not having played anywhere near as many tests or scored as many runs as I would have expected. For a guy who's been a consistent century-maker and averaged in the early to mid 40's throughout his career, he just seems to have gotten close to the twilight of his career rather soon. But I guess if he plays another 30 tests he will have played 100 and scored in the region of 7500-8000 runs and 18 or so centuries. He'll never be the most prolific NZ century scorer as Williamson will go ahead of him, but he should briefly be our greatest run-scorer until overtaken by Williamson. The flipside is, now he's well into his 30s, he could retire from tests early, or be limited due to injury and come up well short of where I feel he should finish on these record tables.
There's a few responses in that thread too. It's a bit hard to read as the formatting is screwed up on (it was migrated from the old forum)
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@shark said in Ross Taylor retires:
I wonder if anyone could find an old thread midway through Rosco's career where I extrapolated his numbers to see how he finished up in comparison to what I predicted?
Anything older than 2016 is probably gone
Here’s a post of yours from 2016 than talks a bit about where Taylor could end up
@shark said in Black Caps Tour to Zimbabwe:
Taylor is now 32 1/2 years old and has only played 70 tests. While I'm sure he has a few more hundreds in him to go ahead of his mentor, the late great Martin Crowe, he seems destined to retire not having played anywhere near as many tests or scored as many runs as I would have expected. For a guy who's been a consistent century-maker and averaged in the early to mid 40's throughout his career, he just seems to have gotten close to the twilight of his career rather soon. But I guess if he plays another 30 tests he will have played 100 and scored in the region of 7500-8000 runs and 18 or so centuries. He'll never be the most prolific NZ century scorer as Williamson will go ahead of him, but he should briefly be our greatest run-scorer until overtaken by Williamson. The flipside is, now he's well into his 30s, he could retire from tests early, or be limited due to injury and come up well short of where I feel he should finish on these record tables.
There's a few responses in that thread too. It's a bit hard to read as the formatting is screwed up on (it was migrated from the old forum)
@duluth wow, great work, thanks!
So when I posted that, he'd played 70 tests in almost 9 years as of a quick tour of Zimbabwe mid-2016 and was averaging at that stage 47 with 14 tons (in the next test of that tour he scored his 15th and got the average up to 48.66 (career high was 48.67 after a 2* in his next innings).
Over the next 5 1/2 years he played 42 tests despite Covid with just four tons. So the annual rate of approx 8 per year was maintained and he got to 112 but his run scoring did drop away a bit. He got to the run target I predicted (7683) and scored 19 tons.
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@duluth wow, great work, thanks!
So when I posted that, he'd played 70 tests in almost 9 years as of a quick tour of Zimbabwe mid-2016 and was averaging at that stage 47 with 14 tons (in the next test of that tour he scored his 15th and got the average up to 48.66 (career high was 48.67 after a 2* in his next innings).
Over the next 5 1/2 years he played 42 tests despite Covid with just four tons. So the annual rate of approx 8 per year was maintained and he got to 112 but his run scoring did drop away a bit. He got to the run target I predicted (7683) and scored 19 tons.
@shark said in Ross Taylor retires:
@duluth wow, great work, thanks!
So when I posted that, he'd played 70 tests in almost 9 years as of a quick tour of Zimbabwe mid-2016 and was averaging at that stage 47 with 14 tons (in the next test of that tour he scored his 15th and got the average up to 48.66 (career high was 48.67 after a 2* in his next innings).
Over the next 5 1/2 years he played 42 tests despite Covid with just four tons. So the annual rate of approx 8 per year was maintained and he got to 112 but his run scoring did drop away a bit. He got to the run target I predicted (7683) and scored 19 tons.
I predicted both him and Ryder to average mid to late 40’s each. The latter looked furious when he was dismissed against India after getting a double ton, I remember thinking what a great attitude and it will serve him well for a long career, sigh……
Even at that stage I didn’t dream NZ would produce a guy capable of averaging over 50 at test level. Pretty sure KW was just another promising youngster at that stage.
It’s certainly no stretch to say he was there on reputation ( in the test team at least ) in the last couple of years. Still a fucken champ though.
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