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Black Caps vs Proteas 2022

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    CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

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    • GunnerG Gunner

      CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

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      @gunner said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

      CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

      probably both

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      • GunnerG Gunner

        CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

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        @gunner said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

        CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

        Considering those are the only two ways he plays that’s not really going out on a limb

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        • MN5M MN5

          @gunner said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

          CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

          Considering those are the only two ways he plays that’s not really going out on a limb

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          @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

          @gunner said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

          CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

          Considering those are the only two ways he plays that’s not really going out on a limb

          I’m glad you picked up on the sarcasm 😉

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          • GunnerG Gunner

            @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

            @gunner said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

            CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

            Considering those are the only two ways he plays that’s not really going out on a limb

            I’m glad you picked up on the sarcasm 😉

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            @gunner said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

            @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

            @gunner said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

            CdG in, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this will either be entertaining or short lived.

            Considering those are the only two ways he plays that’s not really going out on a limb

            I’m glad you picked up on the sarcasm 😉

            I actually did but I’ve had a tiring week, can’t wait to blob on the couch and watch some cricket !

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              #236

              Our position in this game definitely a result of winning the toss and SA shelling those catches yesterday when the ball was still moving sideways. Definitely need a few more on the board yet

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                @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                I'll disagree on that one.

                Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

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                @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                I'll disagree on that one.

                Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

                He is trying to bat a slot that Guppy at his peak couldn't make is own in an inferior side (and with world cricket being less bowler dominated). Mitchell as a batsman has many of the same flaws as Guptill but with way less talent and without a 5th gear.

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                • rotatedR rotated

                  @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                  @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                  Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                  I'll disagree on that one.

                  Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                  He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                  Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

                  He is trying to bat a slot that Guppy at his peak couldn't make is own in an inferior side (and with world cricket being less bowler dominated). Mitchell as a batsman has many of the same flaws as Guptill but with way less talent and without a 5th gear.

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                  @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                  @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                  @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                  Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                  I'll disagree on that one.

                  Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                  He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                  Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

                  He is trying to bat a slot that Guppy at his peak couldn't make is own in an inferior side (and with world cricket being less bowler dominated). Mitchell as a batsman has many of the same flaws as Guptill but with way less talent and without a 5th gear.

                  Whilst Taylor was overshadowed in terms of utter brilliance by KW it’s also worth pointing out he was a bit of a “once in a generation” talent himself, especially by NZ standards. We might need to accept that Mitchell is the best we have and go from there.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                    I'll disagree on that one.

                    Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                    He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                    Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

                    He is trying to bat a slot that Guppy at his peak couldn't make is own in an inferior side (and with world cricket being less bowler dominated). Mitchell as a batsman has many of the same flaws as Guptill but with way less talent and without a 5th gear.

                    Whilst Taylor was overshadowed in terms of utter brilliance by KW it’s also worth pointing out he was a bit of a “once in a generation” talent himself, especially by NZ standards. We might need to accept that Mitchell is the best we have and go from there.

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                    #239

                    @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                    I'll disagree on that one.

                    Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                    He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                    Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

                    He is trying to bat a slot that Guppy at his peak couldn't make is own in an inferior side (and with world cricket being less bowler dominated). Mitchell as a batsman has many of the same flaws as Guptill but with way less talent and without a 5th gear.

                    Whilst Taylor was overshadowed in terms of utter brilliance by KW it’s also worth pointing out he was a bit of a “once in a generation” talent himself, especially by NZ standards. We might need to accept that Mitchell is the best we have and go from there.

                    From overseas all I can look at is international fixtures and Plunket Shield stats for the past decade but there are clearly better batsmen out there.

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                    • rotatedR rotated

                      @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                      I'll disagree on that one.

                      Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                      He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                      Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

                      He is trying to bat a slot that Guppy at his peak couldn't make is own in an inferior side (and with world cricket being less bowler dominated). Mitchell as a batsman has many of the same flaws as Guptill but with way less talent and without a 5th gear.

                      Whilst Taylor was overshadowed in terms of utter brilliance by KW it’s also worth pointing out he was a bit of a “once in a generation” talent himself, especially by NZ standards. We might need to accept that Mitchell is the best we have and go from there.

                      From overseas all I can look at is international fixtures and Plunket Shield stats for the past decade but there are clearly better batsmen out there.

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                      #240

                      @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                      I'll disagree on that one.

                      Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                      He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                      Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

                      He is trying to bat a slot that Guppy at his peak couldn't make is own in an inferior side (and with world cricket being less bowler dominated). Mitchell as a batsman has many of the same flaws as Guptill but with way less talent and without a 5th gear.

                      Whilst Taylor was overshadowed in terms of utter brilliance by KW it’s also worth pointing out he was a bit of a “once in a generation” talent himself, especially by NZ standards. We might need to accept that Mitchell is the best we have and go from there.

                      From overseas all I can look at is international fixtures and Plunket Shield stats for the past decade but there are clearly better batsmen out there.

                      Yes, but Mitchell is an “all rounder”

                      ( in a “clutching at straws” sense of the word )

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                      • MN5M Offline
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                        #241

                        Most wickets taken by a New Zealand spinner at Hagley Oval ?

                        Kane Williamson.

                        There’s just nothing he can’t do.

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                          #242

                          this will be an annoying partnership for South Africa, most of the fern was was expecting anywhere from 0 -100 off the equal amount of balls, with a 90% chance of 0-10 ..anything above 10 is a bonus 🙂

                          Now that both appear in... I think we should be targeting 400+ (I expect wicket next ball now)

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                            Absolutely befuddled how SA bear India two months ago and I watched most of the series.

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                              Absolutely befuddled how SA bear India two months ago and I watched most of the series.

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                              @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                              Absolutely befuddled how SA bear India two months ago and I watched most of the series.

                              we lost convincingly to Bangladesh, playing at home

                              She's a funny old game cricket

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                                Park Cricket Colin holes out, and we're 7 down

                                I've given Colin a lot of shit over the years, but i think that's mainly a snobery and purist sense. His technique is pretty average. But as a 4th seamer/lower order bat he's a decent asset. Should never be a front line seamer though. Nor bat up the order.

                                Lol at the comments on cricinfo about a declaration. That's never happening guys.

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                                  Park Cricket Colin holes out, and we're 7 down

                                  I've given Colin a lot of shit over the years, but i think that's mainly a snobery and purist sense. His technique is pretty average. But as a 4th seamer/lower order bat he's a decent asset. Should never be a front line seamer though. Nor bat up the order.

                                  Lol at the comments on cricinfo about a declaration. That's never happening guys.

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                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                  Park Cricket Colin holes out, and we're 7 down

                                  I've given Colin a lot of shit over the years, but i think that's mainly a snobery and purist sense. His technique is pretty average. But as a 4th seamer/lower order bat he's a decent asset. Should never be a front line seamer though. Nor bat up the order.

                                  Lol at the comments on cricinfo about a declaration. That's never happening guys.

                                  When people get grief on the fern they always bounce back with an amazing performance.

                                  Well, unless their name is Mitchell Santner.

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                                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                    Park Cricket Colin holes out, and we're 7 down

                                    I've given Colin a lot of shit over the years, but i think that's mainly a snobery and purist sense. His technique is pretty average. But as a 4th seamer/lower order bat he's a decent asset. Should never be a front line seamer though. Nor bat up the order.

                                    Lol at the comments on cricinfo about a declaration. That's never happening guys.

                                    When people get grief on the fern they always bounce back with an amazing performance.

                                    Well, unless their name is Mitchell Santner.

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                                    @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                    Park Cricket Colin holes out, and we're 7 down

                                    I've given Colin a lot of shit over the years, but i think that's mainly a snobery and purist sense. His technique is pretty average. But as a 4th seamer/lower order bat he's a decent asset. Should never be a front line seamer though. Nor bat up the order.

                                    Lol at the comments on cricinfo about a declaration. That's never happening guys.

                                    When people get grief on the fern they always bounce back with an amazing performance.

                                    Well, unless their name is Mitchell Santner.

                                    Can't wait to see the set pieces Fozzie has up his sleeve this year after 15 years of grief.

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                                      @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                      @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                      Park Cricket Colin holes out, and we're 7 down

                                      I've given Colin a lot of shit over the years, but i think that's mainly a snobery and purist sense. His technique is pretty average. But as a 4th seamer/lower order bat he's a decent asset. Should never be a front line seamer though. Nor bat up the order.

                                      Lol at the comments on cricinfo about a declaration. That's never happening guys.

                                      When people get grief on the fern they always bounce back with an amazing performance.

                                      Well, unless their name is Mitchell Santner.

                                      Can't wait to see the set pieces Fozzie has up his sleeve this year after 15 years of grief.

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                                      @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                      @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                      @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                      Park Cricket Colin holes out, and we're 7 down

                                      I've given Colin a lot of shit over the years, but i think that's mainly a snobery and purist sense. His technique is pretty average. But as a 4th seamer/lower order bat he's a decent asset. Should never be a front line seamer though. Nor bat up the order.

                                      Lol at the comments on cricinfo about a declaration. That's never happening guys.

                                      When people get grief on the fern they always bounce back with an amazing performance.

                                      Well, unless their name is Mitchell Santner.

                                      Can't wait to see the set pieces Fozzie has up his sleeve this year after 15 years of grief.

                                      Disclaimer: It only works for cricket

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                                      • bayimportsB Do not disturb
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                                        bayimports
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                                        wow, Southee obviously wants a bowl

                                        three consecutive catch attempts (one taken)

                                        Im still hoping for 400 (dont think it happens now)

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                                        • bayimportsB bayimports

                                          wow, Southee obviously wants a bowl

                                          three consecutive catch attempts (one taken)

                                          Im still hoping for 400 (dont think it happens now)

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                                          @bayimports said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                          wow, Southee obviously wants a bowl

                                          three consecutive catch attempts (one taken)

                                          Im still hoping for 400 (dont think it happens now)

                                          Are you implying that Southee is batting irresponsibly? I can’t believe no one has mentioned it before 😉

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