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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.

    and you would be wrong. Jordie Barrett a better player than RI??? lol

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

      @mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.

      and you would be wrong. Jordie Barrett a better player than RI??? lol

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      @mariner4life All opinions are just that, including yours.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @mariner4life All opinions are just that, including yours.

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        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

        @mariner4life All opinions are just that, including yours.

        mine is better though

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          Ok, so we are struggling to get a player in the top 10 at the moment. I am.hoping Jordam will develop into one, but I do worry what he will be like when his pace is gone. A bit like BB in that respect.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

            @mariner4life All opinions are just that, including yours.

            mine is better though

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              can anyone actually name the top 10 players in the world right now?

              This was all much easier when we just said

              R McCaw
              D Carter

              and left the rest to fend for themselves

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                Man, I needed a good laugh. Jordie and Will rated higher than Ioane?

                The very definition of a minority opinion.

                Jordie may not even beat Will on his own for the 15 jersey, and Will is very inexperienced at Test level.

                Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field. Not the promised potential of a Jordan or the inconsistency of JB.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  Man, I needed a good laugh. Jordie and Will rated higher than Ioane?

                  The very definition of a minority opinion.

                  Jordie may not even beat Will on his own for the 15 jersey, and Will is very inexperienced at Test level.

                  Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field. Not the promised potential of a Jordan or the inconsistency of JB.

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                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Man, I needed a good laugh. Jordie and Will rated higher than Ioane?

                  The very definition of a minority opinion.

                  Jordie may not even beat Will on his own for the 15 jersey, and Will is very inexperienced at Test level.

                  Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field. Not the promised potential of a Jordan or the inconsistency of JB.

                  yeah but is his last name Barrett?

                  No?

                  Check and mate bluestards #pwned

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Man, I needed a good laugh. Jordie and Will rated higher than Ioane?

                    The very definition of a minority opinion.

                    Jordie may not even beat Will on his own for the 15 jersey, and Will is very inexperienced at Test level.

                    Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field. Not the promised potential of a Jordan or the inconsistency of JB.

                    yeah but is his last name Barrett?

                    No?

                    Check and mate bluestards #pwned

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                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Man, I needed a good laugh. Jordie and Will rated higher than Ioane?

                    The very definition of a minority opinion.

                    Jordie may not even beat Will on his own for the 15 jersey, and Will is very inexperienced at Test level.

                    Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field. Not the promised potential of a Jordan or the inconsistency of JB.

                    yeah but is his last name Barrett?

                    No?

                    Check and mate bluestards #pwned

                    Both are lucky RI doesn't play 15 too :face_with_tongue:

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      can anyone actually name the top 10 players in the world right now?

                      This was all much easier when we just said

                      R McCaw
                      D Carter

                      and left the rest to fend for themselves

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                      can anyone actually name the top 10 players in the world right now?

                      This was all much easier when we just said

                      R McCaw
                      D Carter

                      and left the rest to fend for themselves

                      A "top ten player in the world" is a bit of a pointless concept.

                      It's not a game where all players bring the same skill sets.

                      Better question is who makes a World XV / is number one in their position.

                      Being a casual Aussie sports fan he probably wouldn't expect to pick too many tight forwards, just those guys from the highlights reels (although that may include Tupou).

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        can anyone actually name the top 10 players in the world right now?

                        This was all much easier when we just said

                        R McCaw
                        D Carter

                        and left the rest to fend for themselves

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                        #1289

                        @mariner4life So we did have that world XV poll ...

                        Although it could probably have had more French and Irish players in it.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @mariner4life So we did have that world XV poll ...

                          Although it could probably have had more French and Irish players in it.

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                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @mariner4life So we did have that world XV poll ...

                          Although it could probably have had more French and Irish players in it.

                          https://www.thesilverfern.com/post/681268-tsf-team-of-the-year-2021

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                          • KirwanK Kirwan

                            Man, I needed a good laugh. Jordie and Will rated higher than Ioane?

                            The very definition of a minority opinion.

                            Jordie may not even beat Will on his own for the 15 jersey, and Will is very inexperienced at Test level.

                            Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field. Not the promised potential of a Jordan or the inconsistency of JB.

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                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field.

                            If he has a top season at test level at centre this year then yeah, top player in two positions. Last year he was very good, but still looked like a winger doing a good job at centre. This year to me, at Super level, he is looking more and more like a centre. Hoping he can show it at Test level too.

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                              Well....this is a mature conversation......
                              RI is head and shoulders above everyone else at center in NZ at the moment and we have some good wingers in Jordan and Reece with some other prospects like LF, Clarke, etc who may or may not make the grade based on the business end of the season to take the winger spots.

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                              • O Old Samurai Jack

                                Well....this is a mature conversation......
                                RI is head and shoulders above everyone else at center in NZ at the moment and we have some good wingers in Jordan and Reece with some other prospects like LF, Clarke, etc who may or may not make the grade based on the business end of the season to take the winger spots.

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                                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Well....this is a mature conversation......

                                As opposed to which Fern conversations?

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                                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Well....this is a mature conversation......

                                  As opposed to which Fern conversations?

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                                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Well....this is a mature conversation......

                                  As opposed to which Fern conversations?

                                  Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight
                                  Wrong about pretty much everything

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.

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                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.

                                    How about David Havili and Devan Flanders?

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field.

                                        If he has a top season at test level at centre this year then yeah, top player in two positions. Last year he was very good, but still looked like a winger doing a good job at centre. This year to me, at Super level, he is looking more and more like a centre. Hoping he can show it at Test level too.

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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field.

                                        If he has a top season at test level at centre this year then yeah, top player in two positions. Last year he was very good, but still looked like a winger doing a good job at centre. This year to me, at Super level, he is looking more and more like a centre. Hoping he can show it at Test level too.

                                        At test level he'll need a decent 12 next to him - solid playmaking and kicking with the ability to bend the line and give Ioane some space to use his pace to try and get outside of his defender. A blend of Havili/Tupaea.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

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                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

                                          Please name a better centre. Fickou ? Ringrose ? Hmmm, RI all day IMO.

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