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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Unless he is offered the All Blacks XV gig?

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    Unless he is offered the All Blacks XV gig?

    Wouldn't be mutually exclusive?

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    • boobooB booboo

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

      Unless he is offered the All Blacks XV gig?

      Wouldn't be mutually exclusive?

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      @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

      Unless he is offered the All Blacks XV gig?

      Wouldn't be mutually exclusive?

      It is the AB XV that plays the Barbarians.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        Unless he is offered the All Blacks XV gig?

        Wouldn't be mutually exclusive?

        It is the AB XV that plays the Barbarians.

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        Unless he is offered the All Blacks XV gig?

        Wouldn't be mutually exclusive?

        It is the AB XV that plays the Barbarians.

        Ah. You'll understand I didn't read the article. Not sure it's ethical or even legal to do so.

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          https://twitter.com/OllieRitchie1/status/1542750217795035136

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            https://twitter.com/OllieRitchie1/status/1542750217795035136

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

            https://twitter.com/OllieRitchie1/status/1542750217795035136

            That is great, would not be too often the June series is sold out for all three Tests would it?

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            • UniteU Unite

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              https://twitter.com/OllieRitchie1/status/1542750217795035136

              That is great, would not be too often the June series is sold out for all three Tests would it?

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              @Unite said in All Blacks 2022:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              https://twitter.com/OllieRitchie1/status/1542750217795035136

              That is great, would not be too often the June series is sold out for all three Tests would it?

              Apart from tests in Christchurch, ABs normally sell out

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                Well at least one bit of honesty from ABs media's, Brodie admiring the gameplan hasn't changed for years

                "We played our same game plan for a number of years and it started to get picked off, especially around our forwards and through the middle of the park. It's the same with anything in life. Businesses, people, evolve. Skillsets evolve. I don't want to give away too much, but hopefully it'll start to show on Saturday."

                Paywalled

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/how-the-all-blacks-forward-pack-plan-to-dominate-ireland/NL225Y5UWCJDOC2HQXPDVHUIIU/

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                • M Machpants

                  Well at least one bit of honesty from ABs media's, Brodie admiring the gameplan hasn't changed for years

                  "We played our same game plan for a number of years and it started to get picked off, especially around our forwards and through the middle of the park. It's the same with anything in life. Businesses, people, evolve. Skillsets evolve. I don't want to give away too much, but hopefully it'll start to show on Saturday."

                  Paywalled

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/how-the-all-blacks-forward-pack-plan-to-dominate-ireland/NL225Y5UWCJDOC2HQXPDVHUIIU/

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                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                  I don't want to give away too much, but hopefully it'll start to show on Saturday."

                  sounds promising....

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I don't want to give away too much, but hopefully it'll start to show on Saturday."

                    sounds promising....

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I don't want to give away too much, but hopefully it'll start to show on Saturday."

                    sounds promising....

                    Yeah, but foster and co have talked about hopinge their physicality and plans to defeat rush defense for quite some time now...

                    But I hope to see something new, for once. Well not even new, stuff that had been done intermittently, and works when used

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                      It does sound promising. The fact that we could see the game plan get picked off years ago has frustrated the shite out of us fans for such a long time I think the average fan would be happy to see any form of innovation. Seeing the tactical nous and innovation of the respected top NZ SR sides and other top international sides rubs salt into that wound.
                      Even if the ABs win today, if it is done using the same old tired game plan, we know it is just a matter of time before the wheels fall again and it will be a long season. From this perspective, this game is incredibly important for the mental health of NZ fans.

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                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1544471564124430336

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                        • O Old Samurai Jack

                          It does sound promising. The fact that we could see the game plan get picked off years ago has frustrated the shite out of us fans for such a long time I think the average fan would be happy to see any form of innovation. Seeing the tactical nous and innovation of the respected top NZ SR sides and other top international sides rubs salt into that wound.
                          Even if the ABs win today, if it is done using the same old tired game plan, we know it is just a matter of time before the wheels fall again and it will be a long season. From this perspective, this game is incredibly important for the mental health of NZ fans.

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                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                          It does sound promising. The fact that we could see the game plan get picked off years ago has frustrated the shite out of us fans for such a long time I think the average fan would be happy to see any form of innovation. Seeing the tactical nous and innovation of the respected top NZ SR sides and other top international sides rubs salt into that wound.
                          Even if the ABs win today, if it is done using the same old tired game plan, we know it is just a matter of time before the wheels fall again and it will be a long season. From this perspective, this game is incredibly important for the mental health of NZ fans.

                          There were some promising changes in the first test, but one of them that was most trumpetted, may have been made up on the night. When asked about Smith hitting the third receiver to get outside the initial Irish defence, which lead to Aridie's awesome second try, he said

                          "Actually it was just off the cuff. Just trying to see space and call where the space is and Nuggs just hit me there"

                          Now maybe this was just in that particular instance, but if not it is
                          a: a great sign for ABs on field problem solving
                          b: showing again Foster etc haven;t changed their plan

                          I'm not sure which!

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                          • M Machpants

                            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                            It does sound promising. The fact that we could see the game plan get picked off years ago has frustrated the shite out of us fans for such a long time I think the average fan would be happy to see any form of innovation. Seeing the tactical nous and innovation of the respected top NZ SR sides and other top international sides rubs salt into that wound.
                            Even if the ABs win today, if it is done using the same old tired game plan, we know it is just a matter of time before the wheels fall again and it will be a long season. From this perspective, this game is incredibly important for the mental health of NZ fans.

                            There were some promising changes in the first test, but one of them that was most trumpetted, may have been made up on the night. When asked about Smith hitting the third receiver to get outside the initial Irish defence, which lead to Aridie's awesome second try, he said

                            "Actually it was just off the cuff. Just trying to see space and call where the space is and Nuggs just hit me there"

                            Now maybe this was just in that particular instance, but if not it is
                            a: a great sign for ABs on field problem solving
                            b: showing again Foster etc haven;t changed their plan

                            I'm not sure which!

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                            @Machpants he does that for the Highlanders, and also better than anyone at picking his target and getting it to them in traffic...but tbf it is often the non receivers that have to hold thier bottle and not reach for the pass that in some cases is right there.

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                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                              It does sound promising. The fact that we could see the game plan get picked off years ago has frustrated the shite out of us fans for such a long time I think the average fan would be happy to see any form of innovation. Seeing the tactical nous and innovation of the respected top NZ SR sides and other top international sides rubs salt into that wound.
                              Even if the ABs win today, if it is done using the same old tired game plan, we know it is just a matter of time before the wheels fall again and it will be a long season. From this perspective, this game is incredibly important for the mental health of NZ fans.

                              There were some promising changes in the first test, but one of them that was most trumpetted, may have been made up on the night. When asked about Smith hitting the third receiver to get outside the initial Irish defence, which lead to Aridie's awesome second try, he said

                              "Actually it was just off the cuff. Just trying to see space and call where the space is and Nuggs just hit me there"

                              Now maybe this was just in that particular instance, but if not it is
                              a: a great sign for ABs on field problem solving
                              b: showing again Foster etc haven;t changed their plan

                              I'm not sure which!

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                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                              It does sound promising. The fact that we could see the game plan get picked off years ago has frustrated the shite out of us fans for such a long time I think the average fan would be happy to see any form of innovation. Seeing the tactical nous and innovation of the respected top NZ SR sides and other top international sides rubs salt into that wound.
                              Even if the ABs win today, if it is done using the same old tired game plan, we know it is just a matter of time before the wheels fall again and it will be a long season. From this perspective, this game is incredibly important for the mental health of NZ fans.

                              There were some promising changes in the first test, but one of them that was most trumpetted, may have been made up on the night. When asked about Smith hitting the third receiver to get outside the initial Irish defence, which lead to Aridie's awesome second try, he said

                              "Actually it was just off the cuff. Just trying to see space and call where the space is and Nuggs just hit me there"

                              Now maybe this was just in that particular instance, but if not it is
                              a: a great sign for ABs on field problem solving
                              b: showing again Foster etc haven;t changed their plan

                              I'm not sure which!

                              Actually if you heard Mooar spek after haftime when asked what they told the team, his reply, "very little, the players had the answers to the questions already".
                              I liked the sound of it.

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                                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                It does sound promising. The fact that we could see the game plan get picked off years ago has frustrated the shite out of us fans for such a long time I think the average fan would be happy to see any form of innovation. Seeing the tactical nous and innovation of the respected top NZ SR sides and other top international sides rubs salt into that wound.
                                Even if the ABs win today, if it is done using the same old tired game plan, we know it is just a matter of time before the wheels fall again and it will be a long season. From this perspective, this game is incredibly important for the mental health of NZ fans.

                                There were some promising changes in the first test, but one of them that was most trumpetted, may have been made up on the night. When asked about Smith hitting the third receiver to get outside the initial Irish defence, which lead to Aridie's awesome second try, he said

                                "Actually it was just off the cuff. Just trying to see space and call where the space is and Nuggs just hit me there"

                                Now maybe this was just in that particular instance, but if not it is
                                a: a great sign for ABs on field problem solving
                                b: showing again Foster etc haven;t changed their plan

                                I'm not sure which!

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                showing again Foster etc haven;t changed their plan

                                So you're saying Ardie wasn't playing to pattern?

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                                  Stuart is an Ardie fan too.

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/not-good-enough-english-scribe-wants-sam-cane-dropped-as-all-blacks-captain/

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                                      @Bones

                                      Barnes, along with Miles Harrison, forms the Harry and Marv of rugby journalists.

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                                        Think I will take more notice of Kieran Read, especially as he says what I ramble on about all the time, ie Cane is made for test rugby, the way he plays etc is what we need.
                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129189155/kieran-read-comes-out-swinging-in-defence-of-all-blacks-captain-sam-cane

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                                          You know when Barnes says that Savea tackles harder than Cane he is talking shit.

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