Rugby Championship 2022

[Stargazer]

@Frye said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:

SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.

NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback

Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!

Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.

I doubt marginal/casual fans would be interested enough to complete that survey.

[Crucial]

@Stargazer said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Frye said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:

SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.

NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback

Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!

Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.

I doubt marginal/casual fans would be interested enough to complete that survey.

Yeah it didn't get marketed out to casuals, it was pretty much a survey of those engaged with the sport at some level.

[Machpants]

Tables pretty interesting at the moment, who would've picked this!

[Bones]

Good old rugbypass.

[Machpants]

@Bones said in Rugby Championship 2022:

Good old rugbypass.

Fucking winning the internet right there

[ACT Crusader]

@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

Tables pretty interesting at the moment, who would've picked this!

It's far more interesting upside down

[nostrildamus]

@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Bones said in Rugby Championship 2022:

Good old rugbypass.

Fucking winning the internet right there

Fourth place-getter gets to pash Faf de Klerk? Hardly an incentive!

[Bones]

@nostrildamus said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Bones said in Rugby Championship 2022:

Good old rugbypass.

Fucking winning the internet right there

Fourth place-getter gets to pash Faf de Klerk? Hardly an incentive!

Bigot.

[Bones]

Good old rugbypass.

[Machpants]

@nostrildamus said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Bones said in Rugby Championship 2022:

Good old rugbypass.

Fucking winning the internet right there

Fourth place-getter gets to pash Faf de Klerk? Hardly an incentive!

All they deserve in fourth

[ARHS]

@ACT-Crusader would it read the same if it was done on tries differential? Wonder who has been the best defensive unit, letting in the least tries?

[ACT Crusader]

@ARHS said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@ACT-Crusader would it read the same if it was done on tries differential? Wonder who has been the best defensive unit, letting in the least tries?

So far

Pumas
Tries - 9
Conversions - 7
Penalties - 5
Drop goals - 0
Points - 74

Wallabies
Tries - 7
Conversions - 6
Penalties - 3
Drop goals - 0
Points - 58

Springboks
Tries - 4
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 6
Drop goals - 1
Points - 49

All Blacks
Tries - 5
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 4
Drop goals - 0
Points - 45

[Mackerzzzz]

@ACT-Crusader said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@ARHS said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@ACT-Crusader would it read the same if it was done on tries differential? Wonder who has been the best defensive unit, letting in the least tries?

So far

Pumas
Tries - 9
Conversions - 7
Penalties - 5
Drop goals - 0
Points - 74

Wallabies
Tries - 7
Conversions - 6
Penalties - 3
Drop goals - 0
Points - 58

Springboks
Tries - 4
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 6
Drop goals - 1
Points - 49

All Blacks
Tries - 5
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 4
Drop goals - 0
Points - 45

Is that attacking or defending stats?

[ARHS]

@Mackerzzzz That will be attacking stats. What interests me is how good our defence has stacked up comparatively - after the attacking onslaught from Ireland that allegedly had our defence highly criticised.

Have we contained South Africa as well as the other Championship teams have contained their opponents? I remember an emphatic tackle by a corner-flagging Cane as an example that stood out.

[Machpants]

@ARHS said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@Mackerzzzz That will be attacking stats. What interests me is how good our defence has stacked up comparatively - after the attacking onslaught from Ireland that allegedly had our defence highly criticised.

Have we contained South Africa as well as the other Championship teams have contained their opponents? I remember an emphatic tackle by a corner-flagging Cane as an example that stood out.

Our defensive structure has been criticized, the individual work and heart by many of our players has not. The structure is leaky as meaning these gut busting efforts to defend the line are far too common

[ACT Crusader]

@Mackerzzzz said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@ACT-Crusader said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@ARHS said in Rugby Championship 2022:

@ACT-Crusader would it read the same if it was done on tries differential? Wonder who has been the best defensive unit, letting in the least tries?

So far

Pumas
Tries - 9
Conversions - 7
Penalties - 5
Drop goals - 0
Points - 74

Wallabies
Tries - 7
Conversions - 6
Penalties - 3
Drop goals - 0
Points - 58

Springboks
Tries - 4
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 6
Drop goals - 1
Points - 49

All Blacks
Tries - 5
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 4
Drop goals - 0
Points - 45

Is that attacking or defending stats?

It's both...

[Daffy Jaffy]

Its crazy how bad the Boks record is playing away to OZ.
The two countries have met 41 times on Australian soil, with the Wallabies winning 27 of those.

The Boks have recorded just one win Down Under in the last decade, a 38-12 rout in Brisbane in 2013.

There was also a 23-all draw in Perth in 2017.

In the last 20 years, South Africa managed just three wins in Australia – the 2013 win, 32-25 in Perth in 2009 and 22-19 in Perth in 2005.

The Wallabies and Springboks have never played in Adelaide before, but there have been 14 Tests in Sydney between the two countries.

Australia won eight of those and South Africa’s last win in this city dates back almost three decades – a 19-12 triumph in 1993 at the same Sydney Football Stadium they will play in next month.

[Crucial]

@Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby Championship 2022:

Its crazy how bad the Boks record is playing away to OZ.
The two countries have met 41 times on Australian soil, with the Wallabies winning 27 of those.

The Boks have recorded just one win Down Under in the last decade, a 38-12 rout in Brisbane in 2013.

There was also a 23-all draw in Perth in 2017.

In the last 20 years, South Africa managed just three wins in Australia – the 2013 win, 32-25 in Perth in 2009 and 22-19 in Perth in 2005.

The Wallabies and Springboks have never played in Adelaide before, but there have been 14 Tests in Sydney between the two countries.

Australia won eight of those and South Africa’s last win in this city dates back almost three decades – a 19-12 triumph in 1993 at the same Sydney Football Stadium they will play in next month.

That's quite interesting really and especially so if you take the impact this would have had on the winning of any series by the ABs. Another thing that was possibly making us appear a little better than we were.

I have to wonder if the Boks aren't very good at avoiding getting dragged into a game that suits the Aussies. I have always thought of the Wobblies as a confidence team and if you let them get their tails up at home you are in for a hard night.

Difficult games to call really. Both teams are wounded. Boks have shown their hand as far as subs and kicking strategy. I believe that they have to back themselves all the way as that game will trouble Australia. The moment the Boks move away from their full court press and aerial pressure things don't go well for them. I'd also think that they might use their loosies in a more direct way with carrying an extra phase or two before the kick.

[nzzp]

@Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby Championship 2022:

Its crazy how bad the Boks record is playing away to OZ.
The two countries have met 41 times on Australian soil, with the Wallabies winning 27 of those.

It's nuts. I backed the Saffers back in the mid 2000's when they were paying like 7-1. Couldn't believe the odds for a two horse race, with a grinding forward pack like SA had. But ... they got pumped. It's like their strength and precision drains as they cross oceans

[Bones]

Good old rugbypass