2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby
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@Nepia Hahaha. They should just do what others do: publish squad lists and their playing schedule on their website. Look at Waikato's U19 page. Easy peasy. Then one post on their FB page with the match day 23 (& k/o time + venue) before the match and one post after with the result. Done!
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Can anyone give a little info on Ross Shield please.
Teams? From what I remember South CHB, West etc who else
Weight restrictions?
Age, Y7 & 8 and are Y6 players eligible?
Do they have a tournament team that goes to Roller Mills?
Cheers
@Paj Hi Paj, here's some info:
The Ross Shield tournament is usually held in the first week of October.
The participating teams are Central HB, Hastings West, Wairoa, Dannevirke, Napier and Hastings East.
Players may not have passed Year 8 (so no high school students), is age-restricted to players under 14 years old and weight-restricted to kids under 57kg. Teams can be mixed boys and girls (although the number of girls is still limited).
At the end of the tournament week, a tournament team will be named that will play one or two games, but never heard they go on to Roller Mills. There are several trophies to be played for, too.There is also another weight restricted tournament - the Wakely Shield Tournament - that is played the following week.
Teams: Hastings East, Saracens, Napier East, Wairoa, Napier West, Central HB, Hastings West and Barbarians.
Not sure of age restrictions, but the weight restriction is 50kg.Here's a link to the Ross Shield programme of 2015 that has a lot of interesting info about the Ross Shield tournament: https://knowledgebank.org.nz/text/ross-shield-2015-programme/
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@Paj Hi Paj, here's some info:
The Ross Shield tournament is usually held in the first week of October.
The participating teams are Central HB, Hastings West, Wairoa, Dannevirke, Napier and Hastings East.
Players may not have passed Year 8 (so no high school students), is age-restricted to players under 14 years old and weight-restricted to kids under 57kg. Teams can be mixed boys and girls (although the number of girls is still limited).
At the end of the tournament week, a tournament team will be named that will play one or two games, but never heard they go on to Roller Mills. There are several trophies to be played for, too.There is also another weight restricted tournament - the Wakely Shield Tournament - that is played the following week.
Teams: Hastings East, Saracens, Napier East, Wairoa, Napier West, Central HB, Hastings West and Barbarians.
Not sure of age restrictions, but the weight restriction is 50kg.Here's a link to the Ross Shield programme of 2015 that has a lot of interesting info about the Ross Shield tournament: https://knowledgebank.org.nz/text/ross-shield-2015-programme/
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@Stargazer 57kg, wish it was that weight in my day (I think it was 50 or 52kg) then I wouldn't have had to starve myself on the bus.
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@Nepia Think it might have been eight stone weight limit when I played in the early 70s. Need I gloat but my team won every game to nil en route to winning the Shield!
@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Nepia Think it might have been eight stone weight limit when I played in the early 70s. Need I gloat but my team won every game to nil en route to winning the Shield!
That's roughly 50kg? So it didn't change much in a decade and a bit.
Sadly we didn't win, we came second to the evil empire of Napier. Was the final tournament that Taupo played in (and it was in Taupo).
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@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Nepia Think it might have been eight stone weight limit when I played in the early 70s. Need I gloat but my team won every game to nil en route to winning the Shield!
That's roughly 50kg? So it didn't change much in a decade and a bit.
Sadly we didn't win, we came second to the evil empire of Napier. Was the final tournament that Taupo played in (and it was in Taupo).
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@Paj Hi Paj, here's some info:
The Ross Shield tournament is usually held in the first week of October.
The participating teams are Central HB, Hastings West, Wairoa, Dannevirke, Napier and Hastings East.
Players may not have passed Year 8 (so no high school students), is age-restricted to players under 14 years old and weight-restricted to kids under 57kg. Teams can be mixed boys and girls (although the number of girls is still limited).
At the end of the tournament week, a tournament team will be named that will play one or two games, but never heard they go on to Roller Mills. There are several trophies to be played for, too.There is also another weight restricted tournament - the Wakely Shield Tournament - that is played the following week.
Teams: Hastings East, Saracens, Napier East, Wairoa, Napier West, Central HB, Hastings West and Barbarians.
Not sure of age restrictions, but the weight restriction is 50kg.Here's a link to the Ross Shield programme of 2015 that has a lot of interesting info about the Ross Shield tournament: https://knowledgebank.org.nz/text/ross-shield-2015-programme/
@Stargazer Thanks mate,
I never made it as was to heavy, my brother played in one year.
My son has made Ross Brown, Taranaki's equivalent and it's picked on School Zones, not Clubs. South, Central, West and North. The weight limit up to 3 years ago was 57.5kgs as that was required to go to Roller Mills. Now they no longer enter RM's as too expensive they pushed weight to 60kgs.
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@Nepia Think it might have been eight stone weight limit when I played in the early 70s. Need I gloat but my team won every game to nil en route to winning the Shield!
@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Nepia Think it might have been eight stone weight limit when I played in the early 70s. Need I gloat but my team won every game to nil en route to winning the Shield!
1973 at Napier
Napier v
Taupo W 18-0
Central HB W 4-0
Hastings W 8-0
Wairoa W 8-0
Dannevirke W 28-0 -
@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Nepia Think it might have been eight stone weight limit when I played in the early 70s. Need I gloat but my team won every game to nil en route to winning the Shield!
1973 at Napier
Napier v
Taupo W 18-0
Central HB W 4-0
Hastings W 8-0
Wairoa W 8-0
Dannevirke W 28-0@Number-10 That's it thanks. From memory it was rather wet and cold until the last day when we ran riot over Dannevirke. Think one of the tries against Nepia's outfit came rather late in the game and against the run of play but still 4 - 0 was a comfortable margin until that burst doubled the Napier score.
Must hunt around to see if my Ross Shield Cap is in the safe place I stored it many years ago but forget where that safe place was! -
Today (Sat 13 August 2022):
Tui v Taranaki at 2.05pm, Tremain Field. The Tui should be able to win this game:
In addition to the Tui and the Poverty Bay v Hawke's Bay Development game in Gisborne (The Rectory at 2.30pm), there are two more games:Central Hawke's Bay v Manawatū Māori at Takapau Domain (1.00pm)
Hawke's Bay Māori v Hawke's Bay Samoa at Farndon Park (3.00pm)
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Hawkes Bay Maori 26 27 Hawkes Bay Samoa 5 tries to 4 but Samoa could only convert 1
Even allowing for my poor scoreboard attempt last night I'm pretty sure that was right but I got there after the first ten minutes so had to rely on others but general consensus was seventeen nil to Samoa at half time.
Not much of a game to watch but Samoa certainly attacked very effectively almost bulldozer style with the Maori spinning it wider a bit more often but as it was a sort of warm up friendly the winners used what appeared to be a rolling sub rule waaaaaaay more often than the Maori side did. Some of the tackling was very hard but mostly legal with a number of splendid around the knees tackles bringing the larger players to the ground. Overall the winner was the better on the day and in reality should have won by a bit more than they did, a couple of late Maori tries closed it up a bit.
A decent crowd of about five hundred or thereabouts watched in chilly but sunny and fine weather at Farndon Park which was in good order and not the slightest bit slippery or muddy. -
Today's results:
Hawke's Bay Tui 45 - 15 Taranaki Whio
Hawke's Bay Māori 26 - 25 Hawke's Bay Samoa
Central Hawke's Bay 24 - 17 Manawatū Māori
Poverty Bay 22 - 17 Hawke's Bay Development@Stargazer Ah well there you go, two incorrect scores by me in a row, old age must be catching up with me! Travesty of justice really as the Samoans were the more effective team and should have won but for lack of an accurate goalkicker (admittedly their tries were mostly score out near the sideline and the kicks were reasonable attempts) and a couple of very lucky tries going against them.
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@Stargazer Ah well there you go, two incorrect scores by me in a row, old age must be catching up with me! Travesty of justice really as the Samoans were the more effective team and should have won but for lack of an accurate goalkicker (admittedly their tries were mostly score out near the sideline and the kicks were reasonable attempts) and a couple of very lucky tries going against them.
@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Stargazer Ah well there you go, two incorrect scores by me in a row, old age must be catching up with me! Travesty of justice really as the Samoans were the more effective team and should have won but for lack of an accurate goalkicker (admittedly their tries were mostly score out near the sideline and the kicks were reasonable attempts) and a couple of very lucky tries going against them.
Didn’t they teach you maths in those Napier schools?
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@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Stargazer Ah well there you go, two incorrect scores by me in a row, old age must be catching up with me! Travesty of justice really as the Samoans were the more effective team and should have won but for lack of an accurate goalkicker (admittedly their tries were mostly score out near the sideline and the kicks were reasonable attempts) and a couple of very lucky tries going against them.
Didn’t they teach you maths in those Napier schools?
@Nepia If you must know I got the 17 - 00 halftime scoreline yesterday from a bunch of Clive players/supporters, two of whom I personally know attended Te Aute College! My tallying from them on used that as the starting point.
That however does not excuse Friday night when I simply forgot about the Bay's second half try. In mitigation we were so far on top and had scored so many tries it is easy to forget one or two of them. -
@Stargazer Can't find where you posted this weekends Rep Fixtures so could you stick them in this topic thanks as I am in the process of arranging things so I can get to the Saracens v Centurions game if it is up this way.
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Rep games Saturday, 19 August 2022:
Hawke's Bay Development v Wellington Centurions - Tremain Field, Napier - 1.00pm
Central Hawke's Bay v Whanganui Development - Coronation Park, Waipawa - 1.00pm
Manawatū Māori v Hawke's Bay Māori - CET Arena 4, Palmerston North - 2.00pmThe HBRU doesn't post any info about rep games, so this all come from other pages. I have not been able to find any info about our Under 19s, yet.
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Rep games Saturday, 19 August 2022:
Hawke's Bay Development v Wellington Centurions - Tremain Field, Napier - 1.00pm
Central Hawke's Bay v Whanganui Development - Coronation Park, Waipawa - 1.00pm
Manawatū Māori v Hawke's Bay Māori - CET Arena 4, Palmerston North - 2.00pmThe HBRU doesn't post any info about rep games, so this all come from other pages. I have not been able to find any info about our Under 19s, yet.
@Stargazer Thank you, probably be going to Park Island rather than NBHS although there is the possibility to do the first half at Te Awa before hurredly hot footing it over to Tamatea depending of the schools game kick off time
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Crap news from Park Island
HB 17 - 00 Wellington
Ok that was what it was when I politely requested the referee call full time, sadly just 20 minutes had been played and it was all HB. The next fifty minutes were a nightmare but the Bay have been officially declared winners on the "last try wins" rule as they utterly dominated the last five or six minutes with a smashing 14 - 00 margin.
It was just the remaining fifty minutes inbetween that saw Wellington rack up 54 points to nil that sure sucked. Even discounting the two tries that I am considering appealing to the IRB for blatantly clear and obvious forward passes the Wellington backs were just too slick and quick for their HB opposition. Admittedly there was also an uncalled forward pass in one of the late HB tries.For the visitors Losi Filipo showed his undoubted class with a superb display on the wing whilst 2nd five Brandyn Laursen was in brilliant form at second five in terms of gliding through gaps as well as timing his passes to perfection and Callum Harkin at first five also showed a bit of something to his game but looked to be favouring a left hammy in the last 20 minutes.
In contrast to the backs up front the Bay did have the ever so slight advantage except for some oooopses in lineouts which halted attacking drives too often. There was also a marginal advantage in the scrums but not too much to raise the middle finger to Wellington over. In the loose things were about evens although the HB blindside (who might have been the Taradale number eight) started with a number of bone crunching bursts and then went into the tighter stuff as Wellington upped the pace of the game.As much as I don't want to say it but some of the Wellington tries were a delight to see, especially their first one but having said that the first three Bay tries were also well constructed.
Zero out of ten to the HBRFU for their promotion and support of the game given once again no scoreboard or time clock, no team sheets available to be handed out nor any ball boys. About the only things they got right was advising the HBRRA that there was a game on and also letting the Development team know the same and that kick off was at 1.00pm Sadly there was sweet FA in terms of contribution. Despite the almost total absence of advising the game was on in all the media available to them, including the free media, remarkably the attendance was around the 400 mark but that was nothing to do with anything done by the host Union.
Oh nearly forgot both team's fullbacks looked good which was a surprise considering the Wellington one looked like he might have been a spewky pale white milk bottle legged red headed Scotsman but turned out to be someone from down the South Island who had just come back from playing in the USA MLR going by the name of Harrison Boyle if the info elicited for the Wgtn water runner could be relied on. He hit the line at speed a couple of times and was through in a flash. Just goes to show you looks can be deceiving.
Final score (courtesy of the touch judge)
HB Development 31 - 54 Wellington Centurions
