All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?
How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!
Ofa was out to prove a point and really put down a marker - poss. his best game in Black. Some of his hits were really hurting the Irish pack. Another Test or two like that and he'll have the jersey nailed on.
I know bugger-all about front-row play, but noticed a drop-off in forward momentum when Karl T came on.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?
How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!
Ofa was out to prove a point and really put down a marker - poss. his best game in Black. Some of his hits were really hurting the Irish pack. Another Test or two like that and he'll have the jersey nailed on.
I know bugger-all about front-row play, but noticed a drop-off in forward momentum when Karl T came on.
Our level dropped as the subs came on
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko
how many tests to the RWC? We have to know our top midfield and play it consistently. And loosies ... and halves. Got to get combinations working in time for next year
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko
how many tests to the RWC? We have to know our top midfield and play it consistently. And loosies ... and halves. Got to get combinations working in time for next year
I’m not huge on Tupaea as a player but last night showed why kind of player works best in the 12 jersey in between BB and RI. So for me it has to be him or Goodhue going forward through to the RWC. If Mounga is in the 10, then you may choose Havili
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@African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.
@Stag said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.
really, 14 tackles and a good percentage of them dominant, christ some of you probably need to learn about the game. it's not about stats, but who makes a difference on field and Cane surely does!
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko
how many tests to the RWC? We have to know our top midfield and play it consistently. And loosies ... and halves. Got to get combinations working in time for next year
I’m not huge on Tupaea as a player but last night showed why kind of player works best in the 12 jersey in between BB and RI. So for me it has to be him or Goodhue going forward through to the RWC. If Mounga is in the 10, then you may choose Havili
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@booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?
Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?
Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.
Do we use safety gear for what looks daft to someone on TV or for what they think is best for safety.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?
Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.
Do we use safety gear for what looks daft to someone on TV or for what they think is best for safety.
@Dan54 safe from what? If any of them were ill, like any normal person, they shouldnt come in to work.
When the few of my work colleagues returned to work after covid or isolating due to a house member with covid, we didnt wear masks, is that a thing now?
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Yeah sure the Barrett clean out might not reach the red card threshold, but fuck what's the point in what he did? Beyond stupid, like his 3-4 dives over the ruck early in the game for absolutely zero result other than giving us shit ball and the ref a reason to penalise us. Someone needs to sit him down with these clips and ask him why, tell him to pull his head in.
Edit: without that shit it was a top notch locks game.
Red definitely fell into 'old' habits once fatigue set in. In saying that the guy has a huge engine for a big guy.
@Toddy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Yeah sure the Barrett clean out might not reach the red card threshold, but fuck what's the point in what he did? Beyond stupid, like his 3-4 dives over the ruck early in the game for absolutely zero result other than giving us shit ball and the ref a reason to penalise us. Someone needs to sit him down with these clips and ask him why, tell him to pull his head in.
Edit: without that shit it was a top notch locks game.
Red definitely fell into 'old' habits once fatigue set in. In saying that the guy has a huge engine for a big guy.
Except he was diving over rucks right from the start (along with rolling the ball along the deck when he got tackled).
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@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
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@Dan54 safe from what? If any of them were ill, like any normal person, they shouldnt come in to work.
When the few of my work colleagues returned to work after covid or isolating due to a house member with covid, we didnt wear masks, is that a thing now?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Dan54 safe from what? If any of them were ill, like any normal person, they shouldnt come in to work.
When the few of my work colleagues returned to work after covid or isolating due to a house member with covid, we didnt wear masks, is that a thing now?
I think it recommended that Masks are worn in enclosed places, not a rule, but recommendation, and think with Cpvid in ranks it pays to be safe is all, and show it?
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It's quite strange people are saying how crap JGP is when he was a key cog in any Irish go forward. One of their top players during 6n and without him their attack is nonexistent.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
We already have a ginga in the squad and now you want to add one of the most punchable faces in existence?
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@Stag said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.
really, 14 tackles and a good percentage of them dominant, christ some of you probably need to learn about the game. it's not about stats, but who makes a difference on field and Cane surely does!
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Stag said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.
really, 14 tackles and a good percentage of them dominant, chirst some of you probably need to learn about the game. it's not about stats, but who makes a difference on field and Cane surely does!
Stats are only part of it - running off the ball, cleaning, tough metres on your line, dominant tackles, straight running…lots of quality measures. Sometimes you can do all of that and the game doesn’t go your way. Other times you look like a star. That’s why the media ratings are always bollocks. They don’t know the game plan, they have to produce something to a deadline, they won’t have reviewed the game…still sells papers and we love it when our favourite player is lauded.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
Yeah, an ALB like performance with some of the tidy up he did. He's not as light footed as ALB but is stronger in the tackle.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
We already have a ginga in the squad and now you want to add one of the most punchable faces in existence?
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
We already have a ginga in the squad and now you want to add one of the most punchable faces in existence?
I've never heard he has even the slightest of punchable faces, let alone up the ladder in terms of existence. I don't find his looks very noteworthy at all. Strange take...
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
How come last year or two we have been underpowered in the forwards playing SA, France, Ireland with the bulk of the forwards the same as today. Taylor, Ofa, SW, BBBR, Sam C, Ardie, ScoBa.
This time they were great. Loved the error free play and ball retention.Sam Whitelock deserves a knighthood
Think we should bring in a next gen prop to give experience Newell, Norris
It’s called sport
Sometimes it’s your night and sometimes it’s not.
Sure I want it to be our night every night, but I’m not 15yo anymore where I think it’s an injustice or some world shattering event when it’s not.
@ACT-Crusader If we win the big gong in France next year with all those geriatrics it will be our greatest achievement
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A small flicker of hope rekindled for France 2023.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
That’s what you’ll get from QT. Strong direct carrying, solid physical defense and I like that he error rate across the board is low. Whether that’s enough to hold off Goodhue, Havili, RTS & ALB remains to be seen. There is some stiff competition.
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I am happy about the win, but from my vantage point (mobile phone at the pub surrounded by AFL supporters) I was a tad concerned at how the Irish appeared to comfortably make ground and it seemed they crossed the AB try line every chance they got. Sure they fluffed their lines and failed to score a couple of times but the Irish will take heart from it.
Also, to gain physical dominace it looked like quite a mental and physical effort from the ABs. We have seen a few games like this over the last couple of years only for the team to not back it up consistently.
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
