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Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match

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  • StagS Stag

    Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

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    @Stag said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

    You would imagine, esp as he played 80

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    • StagS Stag

      Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

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      @Stag said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

      Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

      Probably not. Reserve at best. They have good midfielders though.

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        the Maori set piece held up well.

        Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          the Maori set piece held up well.

          Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

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          @taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

          the Maori set piece held up well.

          Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

          I think you'll say the same thing after Saturday

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          • M Machpants

            @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

            I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

            Scoreboard says otherwise.
            Weber on = 32
            TJ = zip

            Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

            Undeniable though.

            TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
            Scoreboard says otherwise.

            Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!

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            @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

            @Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

            I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

            Scoreboard says otherwise.
            Weber on = 32
            TJ = zip

            Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

            Undeniable though.

            TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
            Scoreboard says otherwise.

            Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!

            You’d think that a noticeable improvement at halfback with make the backs function better yet they failed to score when TJ came in.
            Isn’t that the point of wanting a better halfback?
            Of course there’s other factors.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

              I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

              Scoreboard says otherwise.
              Weber on = 32
              TJ = zip

              Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

              Undeniable though.

              TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
              Scoreboard says otherwise.

              Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!

              You’d think that a noticeable improvement at halfback with make the backs function better yet they failed to score when TJ came in.
              Isn’t that the point of wanting a better halfback?
              Of course there’s other factors.

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              @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              @Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

              I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

              Scoreboard says otherwise.
              Weber on = 32
              TJ = zip

              Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

              Undeniable though.

              TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
              Scoreboard says otherwise.

              Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!

              You’d think that a noticeable improvement at halfback with make the backs function better yet they failed to score when TJ came in.
              Isn’t that the point of wanting a better halfback?
              Of course there’s other factors.

              There's only one factor to your teams performance. Whether foster is coach or not 😜

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                @taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                the Maori set piece held up well.

                Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

                I think you'll say the same thing after Saturday

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                @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                the Maori set piece held up well.

                Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

                I think you'll say the same thing after Saturday

                That Ireland attack pattern was used to good effect and it isn’t one we are used to defending.
                3 close in dummy runners in a line with the ball either skipping them or going right behind to a hole runner was easy metres for Ireland.

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                • StagS Stag

                  Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

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                  @Stag said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                  Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

                  I’d say it’s very unlikely unless there are injuries between now and Saturday.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    the Maori set piece held up well.

                    Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

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                    @taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                    the Maori set piece held up well.

                    Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

                    Just got on from game, enjoyed it, things got messy in second half though.
                    You right Taniwha, Irish had a great defensive set up from set piece and but looked a little lost on when Maori had phase ball and attacked on left side. But all in all not bad for first up game by both teams.

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                      Top display from 10 to 40 minutes. Enjoyed both Sullivans a lot and thought Weber played a composed intelligent game in tough conditions to lead the way. Dickson Harmon Suafoa and Norris showed impact in the forwards.
                      Shame we lost a bit of poise in second half. Bench was mediocre.
                      Coombes and Timoney looked very good. But the front row could be a worry for Ireland now with so many injuries.

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                        Great first half. Won a little punt. Was sweating bullets when Love took the shot.Screenshot_2022-06-29-21-22-47-71_2028f7a04688f3cef76d3a75cd1741fa.jpg

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                        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                          Great first half. Won a little punt. Was sweating bullets when Love took the shot.Screenshot_2022-06-29-21-22-47-71_2028f7a04688f3cef76d3a75cd1741fa.jpg

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                          @Yeetyaah only a Chiefs fan would have both Weber and Aki in their multi πŸ˜‰

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                            @Yeetyaah only a Chiefs fan would have both Weber and Aki in their multi πŸ˜‰

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                            @ACT-Crusader yeah had faith in Aki scoring at the homecoming and Spud loves a dart at the line.

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                              Just got back from the game.

                              A couple of general comments looking ahead to the test:
                              (1) You can see the line speed Ireland bring to defence, but they were often getting penalised (i.e., no.5) for shooting out too early.
                              (2) Speed of passing from the halfbacks will be so important for the ABs. Weber was quicker but erratic with his passing. TJP was so slow the receiver had little time to catch the ball without an Irish player in their face. It's very obvious why neither are in the ABs.
                              (3) When Ireland get their short passing game going combined with quick ruck ball they will test the AB defence.

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                                Oh, and Aaron Cruden was sitting a few rows behind me.

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                                  Good win by the Maori All Blacks tonight.

                                  I was particulally impressed with the Sullivan brothers, I feel like it's a question of when, not if they will be All Black's in the future. Their ability to cover multiple positions will work in their favour aswell going forward.

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                                    Excellent watch.

                                    In the conditions some beautiful rugby.

                                    Zarn outstanding but nearly everyone played well. Was especially impressed by Suafoa and IWL.

                                    T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.

                                    I respect Perenara but i'm glad he's not in the ABs.

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                                      Love the optimism by the Irish mirror.

                                      Full time! All Blacks 32-17 Ireland
                                      It's full time in Hamilton and that will have been tough to watch for Andy Farrell.

                                      The damange was done in the first half ans to Ireland's credit kept their opponents scoreless in the second half.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Excellent watch.

                                        In the conditions some beautiful rugby.

                                        Zarn outstanding but nearly everyone played well. Was especially impressed by Suafoa and IWL.

                                        T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.

                                        I respect Perenara but i'm glad he's not in the ABs.

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                        T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.

                                        I thought that Norris was one of the best forwards. His ball-handling/carrying was great in difficult conditions, and his side of the scrum was good. Lomax was terrible, in comparison.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                          @Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

                                          I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

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                                          @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                          @Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

                                          I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

                                          I can understand the criticism of Weber but if anyone is a handbrake it's TJ. His service is ponderous - he's simply not a good clearer of the ball - everything is so laboured.

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