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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

    Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

    -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

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      Select Fergus Burke!

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        Irish newspapers have reported the Allblacks XV will also play Ireland A on Friday the 4th November at the RDS ground in Dublin on their northern tour

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          Pick Aiden Morgan, he’s been sound since making his debut for the Canes last year.

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            I think either Gatland or Ioane with either Morgan or Plummer. I. E. One experienced and one for the future.

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              I have to admit that I didn't realise Plummer was still so young. He's never really excited me but could be one that has the experience to build on to being a very effective controlling 10.
              Mind you, I think Perofeta has already gone through that stage and now desperately needs time in the saddle. He has the biggest potential.
              Surely there is a way with the XV that they can plan around him being rushed back to the main squad if required?

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                You would think that only one of DMac and Perofeta makes the AB squad, so the other will be in the AB XV. Perofeta might benefit more with regular time at 10 rather than just being a squadie in the ABs.

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                  Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

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                    Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

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                    @ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

                    Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

                    No way it will be 36, more like 26. They have ABs around to top up if desperate.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                      Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                      -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV:

                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                      Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                      -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

                      I think super rugby is his level. Same as Morgan. Neither look like potential ABs to me

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                        Reading some of the names being thrown around, we sure this isn’t an old Heartland XV tour…

                        Burke, McClutchie, Morgan, Plummer aren’t there.

                        Ioane seems so hot and cold.

                        If Bernard Foley is getting a test for the Wallabies we should get Colin Slade or Aaron Cruden a run.

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          Reading some of the names being thrown around, we sure this isn’t an old Heartland XV tour…

                          Burke, McClutchie, Morgan, Plummer aren’t there.

                          Ioane seems so hot and cold.

                          If Bernard Foley is getting a test for the Wallabies we should get Colin Slade or Aaron Cruden a run.

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                          @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

                          Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

                          Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

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                            Reading some of the names being thrown around, we sure this isn’t an old Heartland XV tour…

                            Burke, McClutchie, Morgan, Plummer aren’t there.

                            Ioane seems so hot and cold.

                            If Bernard Foley is getting a test for the Wallabies we should get Colin Slade or Aaron Cruden a run.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

                                    Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

                                    Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

                                    Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

                                    Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

                                    Garland has impressed this year. He’s always been a solid game manager, great boot, steady playmaker but boy has he started taking on the line this year. He deserves a shot IMO.

                                    Josh Ioane is fast becoming the 2nd coming of Orene Ai’i.

                                    Five eighths will either be one of McDonald or Perofeta and then Gatland plus a younger player - Aidan Morgan maybe? Pure bolter would be someone like Cashmore, Reihana.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

                                      Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

                                      Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

                                      Garland has impressed this year. He’s always been a solid game manager, great boot, steady playmaker but boy has he started taking on the line this year. He deserves a shot IMO.

                                      Josh Ioane is fast becoming the 2nd coming of Orene Ai’i.

                                      Five eighths will either be one of McDonald or Perofeta and then Gatland plus a younger player - Aidan Morgan maybe? Pure bolter would be someone like Cashmore, Reihana.

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                                      McDonald

                                      Fuck I thought I was going senile....was racking my brain! I realise now you possibly mean DMac?

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                                        What is the philosophy behind "All Blacks XV" ? Will it be a team to test young players for the future (Murray, Springer, Hotham, Lakai, Bell, to name just a few) ? Or will it be an All Blacks "B" side (with players such as TJP, Weber, Sowakula, Ta'avao) ? Or will it be a mix of the two ?

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                                          What is the philosophy behind "All Blacks XV" ? Will it be a team to test young players for the future (Murray, Springer, Hotham, Lakai, Bell, to name just a few) ? Or will it be an All Blacks "B" side (with players such as TJP, Weber, Sowakula, Ta'avao) ? Or will it be a mix of the two ?

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                                          @cgrant This is the original media release about the All Blacks XV:

                                          https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-high-performance-team-to-tour-from-2020/

                                          "The high-performance benefits of this team will be significant. It will help to develop the next group of players, many of whom will likely become our future All Blacks, as well as give further opportunities for our coaches and other team personnel.

                                          "We also believe that this will aid with retention of players and personnel in New Zealand, which will benefit our Super Rugby clubs and provincial unions as well as the All Blacks," Cass said.

                                          Cass said that, while the concept of a second-tier national team was not new in New Zealand, the intention was for the All Blacks XV to become a regular national team playing second-tier overseas opposition.

                                          "Teams such as the New Zealand A team and the Junior All Blacks who last played in the Pacific Nations Cup in 2009 have filled a similar high-performance role and have done so effectively, with a very high percentage going on to play for the All Blacks.

                                          "These teams have been sporadic in the past, and we believe that there is great value in making this a regular national team going forward.

                                          "Beyond its high-performance role, this new team also has real commercial value for NZR. It will play offshore in growing rugby markets that are of strategic and commercial importance, allowing us to showcase and grow New Zealand's brand of rugby in many more parts of the world," Cass said.

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