All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test
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I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
I think they’ve got it right.
Plus we don’t want to give Stu Barnes theory any legs by not having Cane wear number 7…
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
I think they’ve got it right.
Plus we don’t want to give Stu Barnes theory any legs by not having Cane wear number 7…
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
I think they’ve got it right.
Plus we don’t want to give Stu Barnes theory any legs by not having Cane wear number 7…
True, I'm a much bigger fan of the Read and Kronfeld reply.
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I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
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About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
not sure i agree, nonu became one of if not the best 12 in the world....do we think savea can say the same? or is he still playing largely as a 7 just from the back of the scrum
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
covid
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I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Papali'i has played plenty of rugby at 6. He largely was playing 6 for the Blues/Auckland when he first made the AB's
Before Sotutu arrived the Blues would sometimes have a trio of 7 Gibson, 8 Ioane, 6 Papali'i
I think the loosies later in the year will be Cane, Savea plus Dalton/Akira. Who starts and who is on the bench out of the Blues loosies will change depending on tactics/opposition
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Papali'i has played plenty of rugby at 6. He largely was playing 6 for the Blues/Auckland when he first made the AB's
Before Sotutu arrived the Blues would sometimes have a trio of 7 Gibson, 8 Ioane, 6 Papali'i
I think the loosies later in the year will be Cane, Savea plus Dalton/Akira. Who starts and who is on the bench out of the Blues loosies will change depending on tactics/opposition
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I think the loosies later in the year will be Cane, Savea plus Dalton/Akira. Who starts and who is on the bench out of the Blues loosies will change depending on tactics/opposition
sighs in Hoskins Sotutu
wait, that reads wrong...
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@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I think the loosies later in the year will be Cane, Savea plus Dalton/Akira. Who starts and who is on the bench out of the Blues loosies will change depending on tactics/opposition
sighs in Hoskins Sotutu
wait, that reads wrong...
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I think the loosies later in the year will be Cane, Savea plus Dalton/Akira. Who starts and who is on the bench out of the Blues loosies will change depending on tactics/opposition
sighs in Hoskins Sotutu
wait, that reads wrong...
definitely paints a picture
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Good to see Ross given a go. Also, having the entire Chiefs front row come on (if it works) makes a lot of sense, especially in terms of combination anyway.
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About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
2019 was the last year he played mostly at 7
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About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
@Crucial whether Ardie's best spot at 8 is irrelevent in the sense that him playing at 8 still affects the balance of our loosies, with those we have.
That said, the growth of DP in the past year as a player and leader, playing at 6 has some appeal, this could be awesome, or, well, not....
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
Injured isn't he?Edit:ah, see someone said COVID
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@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
Injured isn't he?Edit:ah, see someone said COVID
@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
Injured isn't he?
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
covid
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@Crucial whether Ardie's best spot at 8 is irrelevent in the sense that him playing at 8 still affects the balance of our loosies, with those we have.
That said, the growth of DP in the past year as a player and leader, playing at 6 has some appeal, this could be awesome, or, well, not....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Crucial whether Ardie's best spot at 8 is irrelevent in the sense that him playing at 8 still affects the balance of our loosies.
That said, the growth of DP in the past year as a player and leader, playing at 6 has some appeal, this could be awesome, or, well, not....
Explain.
Seems to me that traditional loose forward roles have been moved past. -
@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
Injured isn't he?
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
covid
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
Injured isn't he?
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
covid
#booboo
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@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I think the loosies later in the year will be Cane, Savea plus Dalton/Akira. Who starts and who is on the bench out of the Blues loosies will change depending on tactics/opposition
sighs in Hoskins Sotutu
wait, that reads wrong...
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Hoskins Sotutu
He'd be in my 23. I was predicting what I think they'll do
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Hoskins Sotutu
He'd be in my 23. I was predicting what I think they'll do
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Hoskins Sotutu
He'd be in my 23. I was predicting what I think they'll do
and i agree with both your points
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I'm pretty excited about that bench. PGS, Pat T, Fakatava, Mo'unga and Jordan are all players that can make an impact in the 2nd 40.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
not sure i agree, nonu became one of if not the best 12 in the world....do we think savea can say the same? or is he still playing largely as a 7 just from the back of the scrum
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
covid
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
not sure i agree, nonu became one of if not the best 12 in the world....do we think savea can say the same? or is he still playing largely as a 7 just from the back of the scrum
And Nonu played a number of tests at 13 before he was eventually moved to 12. Perhaps Ardie’s time at 7 was the aberration and he and the AB coaches have found his natural home at number 8?
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
not sure i agree, nonu became one of if not the best 12 in the world....do we think savea can say the same? or is he still playing largely as a 7 just from the back of the scrum
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm slightly surprised that they haven't gone with Cane at 6 and Papalii at 7, but my brain is probably too old school on that one.
Paps is 6'4 so probs logical in a 'traditional' sense.
where teh fuck did Paddy T come from to get named in the squad?? where's Vaa??!
covid
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
About time the trope that Ardie is a 7 playing at being an 8 is put to pasture isn't it?
The guy is an ex-7
It's like complaining that Nonu was a winger playing 12.
not sure i agree, nonu became one of if not the best 12 in the world....do we think savea can say the same? or is he still playing largely as a 7 just from the back of the scrum
WR Awards seem to think otherwise...from end of 2021
All Blacks loose forward Ardie Savea has been ranked No.2 among the 100 best players in the world.
Of Savea, Rugby World said: "We think we know all about nuances needed in each of the positions in the back row. But once in a blue moon, a player rushes into the Test game with the toolkit to excel at flanker or at eight. Ardie Savea has cracked it, smiling as he goes…
And for the same period was named in the team of the year at 8
