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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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  • RapidoR Rapido

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @KiwiMurph yep, so many glaring examples of a disconnected, slow, passive defence in this series alone, let alone what he has 'achieved' in 5 years!

    Not only is it quite ineffective. It also makes the AB's the most boring team in the world to watch for about 50% of a rugby match.

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    @Rapido my thoughts exactly!

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @KiwiMurph yep, so many glaring examples of a disconnected, slow, passive defence in this series alone, let alone what he has 'achieved' in 5 years!

      Not only is it quite ineffective. It also makes the AB's the most boring team in the world to watch for about 50% of a rugby match.

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      @Rapido not for opposition fans as they see thier team tearing our defence apart....

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @Rapido not for opposition fans as they see thier team tearing our defence apart....

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        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        @Rapido not for opposition fans as they see thier team tearing our defence apart....

        Bad defence makes for compelling viewing honestly!

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        • The IrishmanT The Irishman

          Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.

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          @The-Irishman After about 5 minutes it's obvious that our defensive structure is terrible. Tactic of always having a loose forward on the sideline on attack has to be more flexible ... Papalii completely wasted out there.

          Our front row is pretty awful on defence. Start Hodgman and Taukei'aho immediately.

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          • TimT Tim

            @The-Irishman After about 5 minutes it's obvious that our defensive structure is terrible. Tactic of always having a loose forward on the sideline on attack has to be more flexible ... Papalii completely wasted out there.

            Our front row is pretty awful on defence. Start Hodgman and Taukei'aho immediately.

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            @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            Tactic of always having a loose forward on the sideline on attack has to be more flexible ... Papalii completely wasted out there.

            and all we do is crowd space for our outsides!!

            watch Ireland, they often attack with 1 player in the open 3rd of the field. Their tight formation allows them to pick us apart with short passes if we spread our players, or sweep out wide if we compress.

            Our formation has only one way of attacking.

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            • The IrishmanT The Irishman

              Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.

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              @The-Irishman That last one is interesting, because I'd had a good look at that after several suggestions that it was Jordan who got caught.

              Bower does actually get across to Hansen and in fact grabs his arm as he runs through, so it's a moot point if he would have made the tackle.

              However, Rieko's not convinced he's going to so he marks on Hansen, which requires Jordan to mark up on Keenan.

              Great vision and long pass by Hansen to Lowe, who has too much space for Jordan to drift. And then another pinpoint infield pass and the try.

              Largely, I'd give credit to Ireland's excellent work - arguably Bower could/should have gone a pace wider, but you're asking a lot of a prop to read the play and recognize he's going to have a wing running at him..

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              • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.

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                @The-Irishman said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.

                The rest of the Rugby World is laughing at the All Blacks and until Clown Foster and his useless cronies go their laughter is only going to get louder and louder.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @The-Irishman Mcleod's defence since 2017 shining again.....

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @The-Irishman Mcleod's defence since 2017 shining again.....

                  Lots of posters have been saying on here since 2017 what does McLeod do? Yet he keeps being allowed to get away with a terrible defensive system.

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                    @The-Irishman said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.

                    The rest of the Rugby World is laughing at the All Blacks and until Clown Foster and his useless cronies go their laughter is only going to get louder and louder.

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @The-Irishman said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.

                    The rest of the Rugby World is laughing at the All Blacks and until Clown Foster and his useless cronies go their laughter is only going to get louder and louder.

                    In fairness, the crowing is only so loud because of the pain the ABs subjected on the rest of the world from about 2005 through to 2015/6. The blip in 2009 against SA notwithstanding.

                    Same in most sports when a period of dominance comes to an end.

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                      The other thing I'd say about that Squidge video is that, while I think he tends to over-egg his analysis - his basic premise is right.

                      Ireland is playing very well-drilled, patterned rugby. They know what they're trying to achieve (lots of numerical mismatches) and when they get them they're exploiting them efficiently.

                      When they beat us last year, I think I remember writing that it was one of the best performances I'd seen against the ABs. I didn't realise at the time quite how well-planned it was.

                      It is very impressive rugby and will be hard to beat next year - but, there will be lots of analysts looking very closely at it. They might need some dry powder! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        The other thing I'd say about that Squidge video is that, while I think he tends to over-egg his analysis - his basic premise is right.

                        Ireland is playing very well-drilled, patterned rugby. They know what they're trying to achieve (lots of numerical mismatches) and when they get them they're exploiting them efficiently.

                        When they beat us last year, I think I remember writing that it was one of the best performances I'd seen against the ABs. I didn't realise at the time quite how well-planned it was.

                        It is very impressive rugby and will be hard to beat next year - but, there will be lots of analysts looking very closely at it. They might need some dry powder! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                        The other thing I'd say about that Squidge video is that, while I think he tends to over-egg his analysis - his basic premise is right.

                        Ireland is playing very well-drilled, patterned rugby. They know what they're trying to achieve (lots of numerical mismatches) and when they get them they're exploiting them efficiently.

                        When they beat us last year, I think I remember writing that it was one of the best performances I'd seen against the ABs. I didn't realise at the time quite how well-planned it was.

                        It is very impressive rugby and will be hard to beat next year - but, there will be lots of analysts looking very closely at it. They might need some dry powder! ๐Ÿ™‚

                        They might be playing their best rugby in between RWCs....

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          The other thing I'd say about that Squidge video is that, while I think he tends to over-egg his analysis - his basic premise is right.

                          Ireland is playing very well-drilled, patterned rugby. They know what they're trying to achieve (lots of numerical mismatches) and when they get them they're exploiting them efficiently.

                          When they beat us last year, I think I remember writing that it was one of the best performances I'd seen against the ABs. I didn't realise at the time quite how well-planned it was.

                          It is very impressive rugby and will be hard to beat next year - but, there will be lots of analysts looking very closely at it. They might need some dry powder! ๐Ÿ™‚

                          They might be playing their best rugby in between RWCs....

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                          @canefan They always have! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @canefan They always have! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @canefan They always have! ๐Ÿ™‚

                            I was thinking what people used to day about us....

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              @canefan They always have! ๐Ÿ™‚

                              I was thinking what people used to day about us....

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                              @canefan I know! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @canefan They always have! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                I was thinking what people used to day about us....

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                                @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @canefan They always have! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                I was thinking what people used to day about us....

                                With foster in charge it may well still be true come 2023 RWC

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                                • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                                  Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.

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                                  @The-Irishman said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.

                                  I finally bit the bullet and watched. Fucking so painful how shit the ABs and their structure is. What a pile of shit, and that's on the coaches. Hurt but everyone outside NZR and Foster can see it. McLeod is dog shit, Foster is dog shit, and NZR are so far up their arse they are surrounded by dog shit.

                                  ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!

                                  bring on 2024. Our performances are so bad I am not even getting banter off my NH mates, cos it is no fun taking the piss out of the disabled

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                                    Weeks later, I still canโ€™t get it out of my head that the worst thing about all of this is that regardless of the coaching tactics, player performances and decision making is I still canโ€™t understand how the ABs let someone turn up and insult their captain like that with no retribution.

                                    Honestly, itโ€™s the biggest disgrace of the lot.

                                    Thatโ€™s the first thing they need to address. Someone will probably say it again and as long as it isnโ€™t in a RWC knockout game then Iโ€™d end the game right there and then, if you know what I mean. Have some fโ€™n pride.

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