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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

    Auckland test he came on and did all the tackling for all the team. Something like 13 tackles in 20 minutes. Taylor made 6 in the 60 minutes before that.

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      with all due respect @Dan54 you are talking absolute shit and you can jam your "so called supporters" and your made-up argument about people here don't know the opposition.

      It appears you consider yourself just so much more enlightened than the rest of us, but really you are just sanctimonious. You know what? stay and watch your Div 2 club play, revel in just how grounded and grass roots you are.

      touch a nerve huh? But I already paid a grand for test so no way I not using those tickets anyway. Not more enlightened mate, just get disappointed at behaviour etc of some of our fans not giving credit.to others, and wonder if it because of how a lot seem to assume we should win everything is all.
      And by the way, you should get down to club rugby and stand on sidelines in rain etc, gives you appreciation of what rugby is in real world.

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      @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

      Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

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      • TimT Tim

        @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

        Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

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        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

        Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

        and coached
        and served on the committee for a decade

        but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

          Auckland test he came on and did all the tackling for all the team. Something like 13 tackles in 20 minutes. Taylor made 6 in the 60 minutes before that.

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          @Crucial Yeah, and his carrying was excellent in that game. He's the best front row forward we have.

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

            Yep almost seems some players are more effective against super defences etc huh Star?

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            @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

            Yep almost seems some players are more effective against super defences etc huh Star?

            But Samisoni is effective at test level.

            He was effective on the weekend.

            He got 25 minutes off the bench when were one man down and made the most running metres of any AB forward in the game.

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              so i assume the presser hasn't happened

              what does selection tell us?

              Little change to the pack means the same tactics there i imagine.
              Havili in means probably as much if not more kicking, just by someone else.

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              • TimT Tim

                @Crucial Yeah, and his carrying was excellent in that game. He's the best front row forward we have.

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                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                @Crucial Yeah, and his carrying was excellent in that game. He's the best front row forward we have.

                Last game he made the 4th most metres ball in hand only behind Jordie, Jordan and Rieko.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Crucial Yeah, and his carrying was excellent in that game. He's the best front row forward we have.

                  Last game he made the 4th most metres ball in hand only behind Jordie, Jordan and Rieko.

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                  @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Crucial Yeah, and his carrying was excellent in that game. He's the best front row forward we have.

                  Last game he made the 4th most metres ball in hand only behind Jordie, Jordan and Rieko.

                  so other than tackling and ball carrying he's adding fuck all? gotcha

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                    Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                    and coached
                    and served on the committee for a decade

                    but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

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                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                    Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                    and coached
                    and served on the committee for a decade

                    but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                    Must be the impression you give 🙂

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                      Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                      and coached
                      and served on the committee for a decade

                      but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                      Must be the impression you give 🙂

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                      @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                      Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                      and coached
                      and served on the committee for a decade

                      but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                      Must be the impression you give 🙂

                      no, that impression of being a bombastic know-it-all but with little clue is actually real, but not because i have no clubland links

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                        Media release:
                        https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-named-for-third-steinlager-series-test/

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

                            Yep almost seems some players are more effective against super defences etc huh Star?

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                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

                            Yep almost seems some players are more effective against super defences etc huh Star?

                            Coming back to this post. You either haven't watched him playing in black or are thinking of someone else. There is no way in hell that comment can be justified.
                            No stats required to see him driving forward and making tackles better than anyone else we have. You could even rate him among the best in the world at hooker.
                            If he isn't injured I'll will remove all benefit of doubt I have been giving these coaches.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              I know I harp on about 10s but the test game at the moment is not suited to either of our best 10s. We are missing a game controller. Both BB and RM play off instinct rather than break teams down. RM can break down poor teams but not good ones, which requires better kicking from hand than he has.
                              It is fair to say that we aren't running an attack from other players for these guys can feed into but also maybe there is an element of having to try and run a game that suits them?
                              I think we are in some fairly medium/long term strife as we have a generation of 10s and coaches that have grown up emulating a style that isn't effective at the moment given the changes to defensive systems.
                              Put a DC in this AB side and you'd see a massive difference from his ability to steer us around the park. Even a Cruden would do a better job..

                              We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

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                              @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

                              I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                Don't know what the reason is that Sotutu doesn't get a run, but if they're not going to use him, can they please bring in Cullen Grace for the Rugby Championship?

                                I wonder if that part of it Star? Have they already decided that Grace has made a statement for MABs, so will not gavie Sotutu a run. Also after this week a smaller squad has to be named for RC anyway, so some will miss out.

                                Although, why (if it happened) ditch Sotutu though when PGS has had a poor start to internationals?

                                Yeah, that's just weird. Probably it's just due to something we're not seeing and that they're seeing at training (?).

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                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                Don't know what the reason is that Sotutu doesn't get a run, but if they're not going to use him, can they please bring in Cullen Grace for the Rugby Championship?

                                I wonder if that part of it Star? Have they already decided that Grace has made a statement for MABs, so will not gavie Sotutu a run. Also after this week a smaller squad has to be named for RC anyway, so some will miss out.

                                Although, why (if it happened) ditch Sotutu though when PGS has had a poor start to internationals?

                                Yeah, that's just weird. Probably it's just due to something we're not seeing and that they're seeing at training (?).

                                It's Foster's super secret insight into the players.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  so i assume the presser hasn't happened

                                  what does selection tell us?

                                  Little change to the pack means the same tactics there i imagine.
                                  Havili in means probably as much if not more kicking, just by someone else.

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  so i assume the presser hasn't happened

                                  what does selection tell us?

                                  Little change to the pack means the same tactics there i imagine.
                                  Havili in means probably as much if not more kicking, just by someone else.

                                  absolutely, my take is ST injured/Covid , Havili is the acknowledgement they wanted another kicking option, Im also guessing Akira gives them more versatility in back row, covers lock and 6/8 which they may prefer to keep as many big bodies on the field. We know Dalton is 6/7 but likely might use him as 7 only this time depending on injury

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    so i assume the presser hasn't happened

                                    what does selection tell us?

                                    Little change to the pack means the same tactics there i imagine.
                                    Havili in means probably as much if not more kicking, just by someone else.

                                    absolutely, my take is ST injured/Covid , Havili is the acknowledgement they wanted another kicking option, Im also guessing Akira gives them more versatility in back row, covers lock and 6/8 which they may prefer to keep as many big bodies on the field. We know Dalton is 6/7 but likely might use him as 7 only this time depending on injury

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                                    @bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

                                    if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

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                                      @bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

                                      if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

                                      if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

                                      the one who is carded of course

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                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        so i assume the presser hasn't happened

                                        what does selection tell us?

                                        Little change to the pack means the same tactics there i imagine.
                                        Havili in means probably as much if not more kicking, just by someone else.

                                        absolutely, my take is ST injured/Covid , Havili is the acknowledgement they wanted another kicking option, Im also guessing Akira gives them more versatility in back row, covers lock and 6/8 which they may prefer to keep as many big bodies on the field. We know Dalton is 6/7 but likely might use him as 7 only this time depending on injury

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                                        @bayimports said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        so i assume the presser hasn't happened

                                        what does selection tell us?

                                        Little change to the pack means the same tactics there i imagine.
                                        Havili in means probably as much if not more kicking, just by someone else.

                                        absolutely, my take is ST injured/Covid , Havili is the acknowledgement they wanted another at least one kicking option,

                                        Fixed. Oh for the days when we had Carter and Dagg on the field.

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                                        • Dan54D Dan54

                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

                                          Yep almost seems some players are more effective against super defences etc huh Star?

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                                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

                                          Yep almost seems some players are more effective against super defences etc huh Star?

                                          You clearly didn't pay any attention to Taylor or Sami' in the last two games (or in all the games last year for that matter). I can therefore only conclude you aren't you aren't a true rugby man.

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