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The Current State of Rugby

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    It will look like sour grapes but I felt today was a particular low point in the game.

    Post World Cup they need to revamp it. The nadir was embodied by the following:

    Players in conjunction with physios going through a pantomime of feigning injury to get stuff looked at.

    Props going down "injured" while they have a player in the bin. You can set your watch to it.

    60 minutes to complete 40 minutes of play.

    4 cards.

    Some "held up" tries not looked at that should have been.

    Moodie and Jordans tries should have stood for me.

    Nit Picky refereeing that set the stall out early doors, but was then was abandoned as the game went on.

    I cannot have anyone convince me that tonight a good product was served up.

    110 pounds ticket price to watch that.

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      7 forwards and 6 forwards on the respective benches.

      Puke.

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        A good point made on NPR:

        the 'team yellow concept' needs to be reviewed. Barrett's first yellow was not a stone wall yellow card offence in and of itself, but he takes a yellow for the team. This yellow should not then be tied to the player, but to the team.

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          Lol defending Barrett. Yes it was a team yellow but he individually was responsible for 3 of those penalties. Two were dumb as fuck.

          And I would have been happy with a straight red for diving straight on to the back of someone's neck.

          Fuck him. Deserved anything he got. Dumb ass

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            Lol defending Barrett. Yes it was a team yellow but he individually was responsible for 3 of those penalties. Two were dumb as fuck.

            And I would have been happy with a straight red for diving straight on to the back of someone's neck.

            Fuck him. Deserved anything he got. Dumb ass

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            @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

            Lol defending Barrett. Yes it was a team yellow but he individually was responsible for 3 of those penalties. Two were dumb as fuck.

            And I would have been happy with a straight red for diving straight on to the back of someone's neck.

            Fuck him. Deserved anything he got. Dumb ass

            Giving Lavanini a run for his money now.

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              It will look like sour grapes but I felt today was a particular low point in the game.

              Post World Cup they need to revamp it. The nadir was embodied by the following:

              Players in conjunction with physios going through a pantomime of feigning injury to get stuff looked at.

              Props going down "injured" while they have a player in the bin. You can set your watch to it.

              60 minutes to complete 40 minutes of play.

              4 cards.

              Some "held up" tries not looked at that should have been.

              Moodie and Jordans tries should have stood for me.

              Nit Picky refereeing that set the stall out early doors, but was then was abandoned as the game went on.

              I cannot have anyone convince me that tonight a good product was served up.

              110 pounds ticket price to watch that.

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              @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

              It will look like sour grapes but I felt today was a particular low point in the game.

              Post World Cup they need to revamp it. The nadir was embodied by the following:

              Players in conjunction with physios going through a pantomime of feigning injury to get stuff looked at.

              Props going down "injured" while they have a player in the bin. You can set your watch to it.

              60 minutes to complete 40 minutes of play.

              4 cards.

              Some "held up" tries not looked at that should have been.

              Moodie and Jordans tries should have stood for me.

              Nit Picky refereeing that set the stall out early doors, but was then was abandoned as the game went on.

              I cannot have anyone convince me that tonight a good product was served up.

              110 pounds ticket price to watch that.

              You are correct

              It looks like sour grapes

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              • S Steve

                A good point made on NPR:

                the 'team yellow concept' needs to be reviewed. Barrett's first yellow was not a stone wall yellow card offence in and of itself, but he takes a yellow for the team. This yellow should not then be tied to the player, but to the team.

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                @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                A good point made on NPR:

                the 'team yellow concept' needs to be reviewed. Barrett's first yellow was not a stone wall yellow card offence in and of itself, but he takes a yellow for the team. This yellow should not then be tied to the player, but to the team.

                Quoting because this needs more love.

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                  People knocking the state of Rugby or Test Rugby, consider this. Yesterday’s game sold out with 82,000 tickets purchased in a neutral venue with punters paying at least £110 a ticket.

                  The gate was bigger than NFL achieves at the same venue, bigger than concerts at Twickenham by Beyoncé, Depeche Mode and Metallica at the same venue in the last decade.

                  Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

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                    People knocking the state of Rugby or Test Rugby, consider this. Yesterday’s game sold out with 82,000 tickets purchased in a neutral venue with punters paying at least £110 a ticket.

                    The gate was bigger than NFL achieves at the same venue, bigger than concerts at Twickenham by Beyoncé, Depeche Mode and Metallica at the same venue in the last decade.

                    Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

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                    @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                    People knocking the state of Rugby or Test Rugby, consider this. Yesterday’s game sold out with 82,000 tickets purchased in a neutral venue with punters paying at least £110 a ticket.

                    The gate was bigger than NFL achieves at the same venue, bigger than concerts at Twickenham by Beyoncé, Depeche Mode and Metallica at the same venue in the last decade.

                    Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

                    Hear hear

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                      People knocking the state of Rugby or Test Rugby, consider this. Yesterday’s game sold out with 82,000 tickets purchased in a neutral venue with punters paying at least £110 a ticket.

                      The gate was bigger than NFL achieves at the same venue, bigger than concerts at Twickenham by Beyoncé, Depeche Mode and Metallica at the same venue in the last decade.

                      Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

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                      @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                      Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

                      Everyone who is not an AB supporter!

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                        Entirely anecdotal... the crowd at Twickenham, followed by a chat with someone in local club rugby this morning, still has me thinking that the game is in very different health in the UK/Europe compared with Australia and NZ.

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                        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                          Entirely anecdotal... the crowd at Twickenham, followed by a chat with someone in local club rugby this morning, still has me thinking that the game is in very different health in the UK/Europe compared with Australia and NZ.

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                          taniwharugby
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                          @Donsteppa financially they are fortunate to have rich backers as we know plenty are struggling financially

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                          • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                            Entirely anecdotal... the crowd at Twickenham, followed by a chat with someone in local club rugby this morning, still has me thinking that the game is in very different health in the UK/Europe compared with Australia and NZ.

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                            @Donsteppa The game is not without its issues in the UK. London Irish, Worcester and Wasps have basically gone to wall.

                            I think the big difference is that crowds in Europe love watching the physical stuff and don’t mind breaks in games. Too much Rugby in Aus and NZ has become glorified touch Rugby in the last decade.

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                              Entirely anecdotal... the crowd at Twickenham, followed by a chat with someone in local club rugby this morning, still has me thinking that the game is in very different health in the UK/Europe compared with Australia and NZ.

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                              @Donsteppa said in The Current State of Rugby:

                              the game is in very different health in the UK

                              The Premiership is a disaster, and isn't the English RU struggling?

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                              • M Machpants

                                @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

                                Everyone who is not an AB supporter!

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                                @Machpants said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

                                Everyone who is not an AB supporter!

                                The same argument is always levelled at the UFC and MMA

                                Most tune in to see a combination ‘Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon’ meets Ali and every once in a while a fighter with an excellent wrestling pedigree totally dictates the tempo, pace, and nature of the fight smothering and nullifying the flamboyance of their opponent

                                It looks like bigger brother beating up on little brother

                                That’s what happened last night

                                If you appreciate all the nuances of the game then you cannot but applaud SA’s tactics and execution

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  @Machpants said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

                                  Everyone who is not an AB supporter!

                                  The same argument is always levelled at the UFC and MMA

                                  Most tune in to see a combination ‘Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon’ meets Ali and every once in a while a fighter with an excellent wrestling pedigree totally dictates the tempo, pace, and nature of the fight smothering and nullifying the flamboyance of their opponent

                                  It looks like bigger brother beating up on little brother

                                  That’s what happened last night

                                  If you appreciate all the nuances of the game then you cannot but applaud SA’s tactics and execution

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                                  Machpants
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                                  @MiketheSnow Dude it was a joke, don't take it so seriously. No matter how much you like running rugby, most other nations love to see the ABs humbled more!

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                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/132806483/warts-and-all-heavyweight-review-of-new-zealand-rugby-due-to-be-published-in-coming-week

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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/132806483/warts-and-all-heavyweight-review-of-new-zealand-rugby-due-to-be-published-in-coming-week

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                                      @mikedogz said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/132806483/warts-and-all-heavyweight-review-of-new-zealand-rugby-due-to-be-published-in-coming-week

                                      After decades of Wales trying to be NZ it's heartening to see that NZ is trying to be like Wales 😉

                                      If this is a hatchet job released during the RWC I'd love NZ to go on and with the whole thing

                                      Will be watching with interest

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                                        @mikedogz said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/132806483/warts-and-all-heavyweight-review-of-new-zealand-rugby-due-to-be-published-in-coming-week

                                        After decades of Wales trying to be NZ it's heartening to see that NZ is trying to be like Wales 😉

                                        If this is a hatchet job released during the RWC I'd love NZ to go on and with the whole thing

                                        Will be watching with interest

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                                        @MiketheSnow Are you suggesting that Foster was unable to head coach Wales like his revered predecessors, so he decided to turn the ABs into Wales and therefore emulate his heroes?

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @MiketheSnow Are you suggesting that Foster was unable to head coach Wales like his revered predecessors, so he decided to turn the ABs into Wales and therefore emulate his heroes?

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                                          @Machpants said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @MiketheSnow Are you suggesting that Foster was unable to head coach Wales like his revered predecessors, so he decided to turn the ABs into Wales and therefore emulate his heroes?

                                          Ha ha

                                          No

                                          The infighting and civil war part

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