Foster, Robertson etc
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@Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo cool. You bothered to come here to post that? Huh, maybe you're more invested than you make out...
No, why? It’s an Internet forum and I have it on my phone. I check it every now and then.
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@Hooroo I think the point is well made by your respondent
@The-Docter said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo I think the point is well made by your respondent
Being a Moderater I scan the odd thread or two to get rid of the dross.
I happen to comment every now and then too
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@The-Docter said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo I think the point is well made by your respondent
Being a Moderater I scan the odd thread or two to get rid of the dross.
I happen to comment every now and then too
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@ploughboy said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Rapido said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
Jezus, has he?
Hardly seems worth any of the bother.
quite possable a defence coach isnt available yet. everyone has to work through contracts .anyone any good generally has a job
Why does one need to be available to get rid of one that from outside appears to be having a detrimental effect? Let one of the other coaches do it or heck, give the players free reign until you find a coach!
@Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@ploughboy said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Rapido said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
Jezus, has he?
Hardly seems worth any of the bother.
quite possable a defence coach isnt available yet. everyone has to work through contracts .anyone any good generally has a job
Why does one need to be available to get rid of one that from outside appears to be having a detrimental effect? Let one of the other coaches do it or heck, give the players free reign until you find a coach!
really wouldnt have a clue but would imagine there is a shitload of work goes into a international defence coaches role (not that we could see that in last few tests) foster is filling in at attack so not many coaches left
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@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?
I'm not convinced they even asked him. But if he turned them down, there's always a danger the fish heads stop asking
The term Newshub used was that he "wanted the full runway" (i.e., 4 years before a RWC).
So almost twice as long as Foster's appointment to prove himself (or not) at the top level then?
Hmmm.
@Victor-Meldrew I wish they had all gone. But shall we at least give the new set up a chance?
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@Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@ploughboy said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Rapido said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
Jezus, has he?
Hardly seems worth any of the bother.
quite possable a defence coach isnt available yet. everyone has to work through contracts .anyone any good generally has a job
Why does one need to be available to get rid of one that from outside appears to be having a detrimental effect? Let one of the other coaches do it or heck, give the players free reign until you find a coach!
really wouldnt have a clue but would imagine there is a shitload of work goes into a international defence coaches role (not that we could see that in last few tests) foster is filling in at attack so not many coaches left
I sadly think it is likely Robertson has signed overseas hence Ryan takes up the AB assistant coach role.
I understand the NZR in their wisdom think coaches should get international experience but they have to weigh it up with losing their best coaches and the IP that flows into other nations' teams. -
@Hooroo fair enough.
@The-Docter said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo fair enough.
Prolly should add that posting in any thread isn’t very hard or a commitment. It’s just internetting with the internetters
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@The-Docter said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo fair enough.
Prolly should add that posting in any thread isn’t very hard or a commitment. It’s just internetting with the internetters
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@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Kirwan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I hope Ryan is allowed to make actual changes to how the tight five play. I also hope if he has a say in selection he rises above provincial bias because Taylor desperately needs to be dropped.
Also, if Moat was responsible for the shithouse attack, hopefully Foster can make a positive change here too.
I think not, obviously, so hopefully they are looking some out sense quickly.
Well someone has to take Plumtrees spot on panel. and as assistant coach I guess it would be Ryan., and if Ryan isn't allowed to makre required xhanges he wouldn't be there would he?
If Ryan is stepping up to the Forward coaching job replacing Plumtree,Then it would make sense he takes Plumtrees position as the other selector.
But it is Foster and NZR so probably could be anyone then.From what I can understand he is taking the job of assistant coach which Plumtree was, and Greg Feek is specialised set piece coach? Not sure someone who knows more than me will probably explain his role.
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Kirwan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I hope Ryan is allowed to make actual changes to how the tight five play. I also hope if he has a say in selection he rises above provincial bias because Taylor desperately needs to be dropped.
Also, if Moat was responsible for the shithouse attack, hopefully Foster can make a positive change here too.
I think not, obviously, so hopefully they are looking some out sense quickly.
Well someone has to take Plumtrees spot on panel. and as assistant coach I guess it would be Ryan., and if Ryan isn't allowed to makre required xhanges he wouldn't be there would he?
If Ryan is stepping up to the Forward coaching job replacing Plumtree,Then it would make sense he takes Plumtrees position as the other selector.
But it is Foster and NZR so probably could be anyone then.From what I can understand he is taking the job of assistant coach which Plumtree was, and Greg Feek is specialised set piece coach? Not sure someone who knows more than me will probably explain his role.
On The Crusaders Website it said he was taking over as Forward coach.
Greek Feek is just the scrum Coach. -
I sadly think it is likely Robertson has signed overseas hence Ryan takes up the AB assistant coach role.
I understand the NZR in their wisdom think coaches should get international experience but they have to weigh it up with losing their best coaches and the IP that flows into other nations' teams. -
@Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo cool. You bothered to come here to post that? Huh, maybe you're more invested than you make out...
No, why? It’s an Internet forum and I have it on my phone. I check it every now and then.
@Hooroo said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo cool. You bothered to come here to post that? Huh, maybe you're more invested than you make out...
No, why? It’s an Internet forum and I have it on my phone. I check it every now and then.
Yeah nah sure, just saying it's a bit weird to post that you don't care. There's a wine thread I don't care about, I don't feel the need to post there about how I don't care.
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@nostrildamus Why would you think that?
He's made it pretty clear that he's hanging around to have a crack at the top job after RWC2023.
@Chris-B said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus Why would you think that?
He's made it pretty clear that he's hanging around to have a crack at the top job after RWC2023.
I didn't see that. Thank you, I feel better now. All I recall is some poster on here adamant he signed an overseas contract to be announced in August.
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@Hooroo said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo cool. You bothered to come here to post that? Huh, maybe you're more invested than you make out...
No, why? It’s an Internet forum and I have it on my phone. I check it every now and then.
Yeah nah sure, just saying it's a bit weird to post that you don't care. There's a wine thread I don't care about, I don't feel the need to post there about how I don't care.
@Bones there's a wine thread? show me the vino to that one
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@Rapido said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
Jezus, has he?
Hardly seems worth any of the bother.
quite possable a defence coach isnt available yet. everyone has to work through contracts .anyone any good generally has a job
@ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline...
I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.
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Brief bio on McLeod, since I googled it.
https://halosport.co.nz/project/scott-mcleod/
It doesn't say he's immortal.
@Chris-B said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Brief bio on McLeod, since I googled it.
https://halosport.co.nz/project/scott-mcleod/
It doesn't say he's immortal.
Might be better to replace him with the Kurgen
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@Chris-B said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus Why would you think that?
He's made it pretty clear that he's hanging around to have a crack at the top job after RWC2023.
I didn't see that. Thank you, I feel better now. All I recall is some poster on here adamant he signed an overseas contract to be announced in August.
@nostrildamus Stargazer will know all the details, but I'm sure Razor is signed with NZR through to 2024, but with a get out clause, basically if he doesn't get the AB job in late-2023.
If he wasn't committed to that he'd be long gone - Razor won't have to worry about feeding his kids in the foreseeable future - one of the hottest rugby coaching commodities on the planet.
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@ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline...
I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline...
I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.
where did i defend his performance just gave a reason why he MAY still have a job
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Uptight rant here. I wish Foster and co would just shut the fuck up about saying they are disappointed about losing to Ireland in NZ. We are too but that is not it you fluffybunny! It is the obvious decline in AB rugby since arguably 2017 and the fact that it is getting worst not better!!! This decline has been obvious to everybody, the NZ fans, the opposition teams, etc, all except fucken NZR and Foster! Do they think we have forgotten about 2020, 2021? There has been no game plan, no defense, shite attack for friggen years and people are fucken sick of it! To be honest, I think the NZ fans have been incredibly patient and have given Foster and his team a lot of time to sort out obvious problems. All we have gotten back is lip service and excuses. Just fuck off!
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline...
I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.
where did i defend his performance just gave a reason why he MAY still have a job
@ploughboy sorry maybe I shoulda made that little smiley even bigger to show I was winding you up??
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Surely Ryan wouldn’t step in under Foster unless there is a bigger play, he is a loyal Robertson guy. Maybe not enough time to sign Robertson up for SA tour and deal with the exit of Foster and the legal implications. So Foster is on his way out, just timing.
