Foster, Robertson etc
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I hope paul is right, and that means I can watch a victory under Razor at Eden Park!
Hamilton has been called many things, even rocked a slogan for a while proclaiming to be not as bad as people thought, but this week it will be cast in a new role as destiny-maker.
One more loss for the All Blacks this week and Hamilton has to be the end of the line for head coach Ian Foster and many in his wider management team.
One more loss and Hamilton, for the sake of a legacy 120 years in the making, has to be the terminus.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@Chester-Draws well given only 2 serious applicants in 2019 and how NZR have handled themselves in recent weeks, the state the squad, confidence-wise, I dont think it is as plum of a gig as you think!
The lack of applicants in 2019 was because the NZR made it very clear that Foster was going to get it. So the other potential applicants (Rennie, Joseph) went out and looked for other jobs -- and unsurprisingly found good ones, given their quality. In the meantime we have some new talent coming through, with McDonald -- who has been able to turn around a team in a similar rut -- and older ones like Gatland who might like it to round off his CV.
The confidence of the players will revive pretty quickly. It only took one win in Africa to make them much happier.
I also think the new coach will see out almost all the current board of the NZR. How many of the fish-heads are going to be reappointed after this debacle? Apparently not even one had the gumption to vote against Foster.
@Chester-Draws RA/Raelene tied Rennie up early - before NZR put out a call for applications. He was never a realistic option.
I also doubt Joseph was a realistic option. Pretty sure he'd be earning a mint coaching Japan.
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When I qualified for all my Cricket coaching levels in NZ and Australia
the definition of a coach we had to adhere to was the following
The main purpose of coaching is to maximize performance by helping a player/players reach their peak potential. The main purpose of coaching involves developing leadership, creating self-discipline, building a self-belief system, creating motivation, and improving self-awareness.Having a clear mission statement as a coach to determine your path.
I see none of this in the AB's as the moment.
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All this crap about giving Fosatert time, shit he spent years in the A.B Coaching set up. Those that know him say he is a nice guy, honestly he is a totally SHIT House Coach.
A.B social media putting their faith in the man as well as the NZRFU. Let's be honest and just say every team he has ever coached has been a failure. Now he is continuing that same reputation with the A.B's The last two records for Foster to break is the losing of the Bledisloe at Eden Park. This truly is depressing.
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All this crap about giving Fosatert time, shit he spent years in the A.B Coaching set up. Those that know him say he is a nice guy, honestly he is a totally SHIT House Coach.
A.B social media putting their faith in the man as well as the NZRFU. Let's be honest and just say every team he has ever coached has been a failure. Now he is continuing that same reputation with the A.B's The last two records for Foster to break is the losing of the Bledisloe at Eden Park. This truly is depressing.
All this crap about giving Fosatert time, shit he spent years in the A.B Coaching set up. Those that know him say he is a nice guy, honestly he is a totally SHIT House Coach.
A.B social media putting their faith in the man as well as the NZRFU. Let's be honest and just say every team he has ever coached has been a failure. Now he is continuing that same reputation with the A.B's The last two records for Foster to break is the losing of the Bledisloe at Eden Park. This truly is depressing.
Foster has had 11 years in the AB environment how long does it take for NZR to realise how shit he is.
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I hope paul is right, and that means I can watch a victory under Razor at Eden Park!
Hamilton has been called many things, even rocked a slogan for a while proclaiming to be not as bad as people thought, but this week it will be cast in a new role as destiny-maker.
One more loss for the All Blacks this week and Hamilton has to be the end of the line for head coach Ian Foster and many in his wider management team.
One more loss and Hamilton, for the sake of a legacy 120 years in the making, has to be the terminus.
@Machpants said in Foster:
I hope paul is right, and that means I can watch a victory under Razor at Eden Park!
Hamilton has been called many things, even rocked a slogan for a while proclaiming to be not as bad as people thought, but this week it will be cast in a new role as destiny-maker.
One more loss for the All Blacks this week and Hamilton has to be the end of the line for head coach Ian Foster and many in his wider management team.
One more loss and Hamilton, for the sake of a legacy 120 years in the making, has to be the terminus.
Do we have to wait that long,AB's will win in Wellington as the Pumas have played their big game.
And then all will be great again until we lose to Australia.
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All this crap about giving Fosatert time, shit he spent years in the A.B Coaching set up. Those that know him say he is a nice guy, honestly he is a totally SHIT House Coach.
A.B social media putting their faith in the man as well as the NZRFU. Let's be honest and just say every team he has ever coached has been a failure. Now he is continuing that same reputation with the A.B's The last two records for Foster to break is the losing of the Bledisloe at Eden Park. This truly is depressing.
Foster has had 11 years in the AB environment how long does it take for NZR to realise how shit he is.
Foster has had 11 years in the AB environment how long does it take for NZR to realise how shit he is.
As far as I can tell Foster still decides on bench time changes. Someone please advise if this is not correct.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster:
Foster has had 11 years in the AB environment how long does it take for NZR to realise how shit he is.
As far as I can tell Foster still decides on bench time changes. Someone please advise if this is not correct.
As far as I understand you are correct that is Fosters responsibility subs.
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@nostrildamus he either makes the call or has final say if the team put a suggestion or strategy to him. Surely he hasn't devolved that responsibility to his assistants... surely!
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@nostrildamus he either makes the call or has final say if the team put a suggestion or strategy to him. Surely he hasn't devolved that responsibility to his assistants... surely!
@Paekakboyz said in Foster:
@nostrildamus he either makes the call or has final say if the team put a suggestion or strategy to him. Surely he hasn't devolved that responsibility to his assistants... surely!
Thanks I ask as there are now so many assistants.
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@Chester-Draws RA/Raelene tied Rennie up early - before NZR put out a call for applications. He was never a realistic option.
I also doubt Joseph was a realistic option. Pretty sure he'd be earning a mint coaching Japan.
@Chester-Draws RA/Raelene tied Rennie up early - before NZR put out a call for applications. He was never a realistic option.
I also doubt Joseph was a realistic option. Pretty sure he'd be earning a mint coaching Japan.
The reason that happened is that NZR insisted on waiting until after RWC to start the process, cos all coaches should wait for their chance, and spurn other offers. It was either utterly incompetent and arrogant to assume coaches would put their future on hold on the chance of an ABs role, or it was fait accompli. If NZR hadn't been such a useless bunch of fluffybunnies and ran the selection leading upto the RWC, more would have put their name in, with the possibility of going elsewhere if they failed
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@Paekakboyz said in Foster:
@nostrildamus he either makes the call or has final say if the team put a suggestion or strategy to him. Surely he hasn't devolved that responsibility to his assistants... surely!
Thanks I ask as there are now so many assistants.
@nostrildamus oops I just re-read my post and I'm with you. I hope he makes the call but who knows at the moment. They frequently cite group think so it's hard to tell what Foster makes the calls on
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Many of us could see in October 2019 that Foster as AB Head coach would be a disaster.
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3557/message-to-the-nzru?_=1661677026290
@sparky
That's nothing to crow about, 95% of anyone who knows anything about the situation would have said the same thing.The NZRU, Foster, AB players obviously feel bulletproof from criticism and reality. All that matters to them is keeping the gravy train going as long as possible. If it was about pride then they would have stepped down. They aren't even bothering to show any contrition. Sadly even if the ABs manage to recover from this, they have lost historical records that can never be recovered.
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@sparky
That's nothing to crow about, 95% of anyone who knows anything about the situation would have said the same thing.The NZRU, Foster, AB players obviously feel bulletproof from criticism and reality. All that matters to them is keeping the gravy train going as long as possible. If it was about pride then they would have stepped down. They aren't even bothering to show any contrition. Sadly even if the ABs manage to recover from this, they have lost historical records that can never be recovered.
@sparky
That's nothing to crow about, 95% of anyone who knows anything about the situation would have said the same thing.The NZRU, Foster, AB players obviously feel bulletproof from criticism and reality. All that matters to them is keeping the gravy train going as possible. If it was about pride then they would have stepped down. They aren't even bothering to show any contrition. Sadly even if the ABs manage to recover from this, they have lost historical records that can never be recovered.
It is a good question, what would be the level of substandard performance that a board member or NZR staff member or coach feel they would need to step down over?
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@sparky
That's nothing to crow about, 95% of anyone who knows anything about the situation would have said the same thing.The NZRU, Foster, AB players obviously feel bulletproof from criticism and reality. All that matters to them is keeping the gravy train going as long as possible. If it was about pride then they would have stepped down. They aren't even bothering to show any contrition. Sadly even if the ABs manage to recover from this, they have lost historical records that can never be recovered.
The vast majority of the Fern and the All Blacks supporters could see Foster would be an absolute disaster. But the outgoing coaching team, the NZRU, the senior players but worst of all the dullard cheerleaders in the mainstream media repeatedly backed a man clearly not up to the job. They were cheering on Captain Smith as he sped towards the iceberg. They had no thought of the consequences to the hard-earned historic reputation of the once-feared Black Jersey. It was utter arrogance and folly. So sad and if the powers that be had an iota of common sense between them, entirely avoidable.
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We are Donsteppa clones. Literally Dr Who
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I don't mind so much losing the Bled. It would be to a Kiwi coach. And arguably the Wallabies are playing fresher, more inventive rugby.
@nostrildamus said in Foster:
I don't mind so much losing the Bled. It would be to a Kiwi coach. And arguably the Wallabies are playing fresher, more inventive rugby.
No thanks.
They’re in a similar roller coaster to us in my view. I enjoyed their win against the Boks though. Consistency is a problem so let’s see what happens on the weekend.
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At least Foster is honest about now not knowing how to fix this.
Back to these All Blacks and their mounting problems, it’s alarming to hear Foster concede some of their problems, highlighted in this latest embarrassing loss to Argentina, “are clearly not that easy to fix”
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At least Foster is honest about now not knowing how to fix this.
Back to these All Blacks and their mounting problems, it’s alarming to hear Foster concede some of their problems, highlighted in this latest embarrassing loss to Argentina, “are clearly not that easy to fix”
