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    Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

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    • TimT Tim

      Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

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      @Tim said in Foster must go:

      Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

      That’s classic spin right there.

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      • TimT Tim

        Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

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        @Tim said in Foster must go:

        Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

        Foster then would seem to be far better at defining contract terms than coaching the ABs.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @Unite said in Foster must go:

          So 6pm in NZ and still nothing from NZR?

          Not sure what you are expecting, unless they’ve changed team naming’s to Monday and no one told us.

          When’s the RC squad named?

          If it’s about the future of the coach, I’m certainly not expecting anything new today. In terms of media cycle today is the ‘wash up from the game’ day.

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          @ACT-Crusader said in Foster must go:

          When’s the RC squad named?

          SENZ said Thursday today.

          Why, as a fan, you may want to know when things are happening is weird. Like, don't you just cre about memes on twitter?

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          • TimT Tim

            Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

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            @Tim said in Foster must go:

            Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

            for a 16 month early termination? seems legit...

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @Crucial said in Foster must go:

              @Frank said in Foster must go:

              There is basically not a single good argument for Foster staying.
              Fuckin none.

              There might be if neither Razor or Joe want to pick up a dirty nappy.

              Which does make you wonder why the likes of Jamie Joseph were a bit less than keen.

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              @Victor-Meldrew

              I'd say more money than NZR were offering, or did he play in the same team as Robinson and didn't want him as a boss?

              If NZR have to pay a guy, supposedly 3 or 4 times his annual salary for sacking him in a job that is all about performance and results and this team is achieving neither, then they need to look at the hiring process and thier contracts.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

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                @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                What is he waiting for? Sure the circumstances aren't ideal. But surely he would back himself?

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                • TimT Tim

                  Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

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                  @Tim said in Foster must go:

                  Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

                  Depends how you add it up. Maybe 18 months payout for Foster (NZRs fault) and 18 months for the new guy.
                  If Schmidt he’s already on a contract so the increase won’t be a full salary. Then there’s the assistants to pay out.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

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                    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                    TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                    Fuck. Really like to know why.

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                      @Tim said in Foster must go:

                      Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

                      Depends how you add it up. Maybe 18 months payout for Foster (NZRs fault) and 18 months for the new guy.
                      If Schmidt he’s already on a contract so the increase won’t be a full salary. Then there’s the assistants to pay out.

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                      @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                      @Tim said in Foster must go:

                      Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

                      Depends how you add it up. Maybe 18 months payout for Foster (NZRs fault) and 18 months for the new guy.
                      If Schmidt he’s already on a contract so the increase won’t be a full salary. Then there’s the assistants to pay out.

                      yeah fair point

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                        Maybe this is just a big ruse on Fosters part to get a big payout without having to do the work. Getting fat was all part of the plan.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Victor-Meldrew

                          I'd say more money than NZR were offering, or did he play in the same team as Robinson and didn't want him as a boss?

                          If NZR have to pay a guy, supposedly 3 or 4 times his annual salary for sacking him in a job that is all about performance and results and this team is achieving neither, then they need to look at the hiring process and thier contracts.

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                          @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                          @Victor-Meldrew

                          I'd say more money than NZR were offering, or did he play in the same team as Robinson and didn't want him as a boss?

                          If NZR have to pay a guy, supposedly 3 or 4 times his annual salary for sacking him in a job that is all about performance and results and this team is achieving neither, then they need to look at the hiring process and thier contracts.

                          They don’t. That will be total cost. Pay out old guys. Pay new guys
                          The bit the media miss is that they have to pay someone anyway.
                          Even if they ignore the new costs it’s what ? Three maybe four salaries for 16 months. Sounds about right

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                          • chimoausC chimoaus

                            Maybe this is just a big ruse on Fosters part to get a big payout without having to do the work. Getting fat was all part of the plan.

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                            @chimoaus said in Foster must go:

                            Maybe this is just a big ruse on Fosters part to get a big payout without having to do the work. Getting fat was all part of the plan.

                            He has a contract. If I had a contract and it was cancelled I would expect it to be paid out unless there were clauses that said otherwise. No need to defame the guy by inference that he is holding them over the fire.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @Unite said in Foster must go:

                              So 6pm in NZ and still nothing from NZR?

                              Not sure what you are expecting, unless they’ve changed team naming’s to Monday and no one told us.

                              When’s the RC squad named?

                              If it’s about the future of the coach, I’m certainly not expecting anything new today. In terms of media cycle today is the ‘wash up from the game’ day.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in Foster must go:

                              @Unite said in Foster must go:

                              So 6pm in NZ and still nothing from NZR?

                              Not sure what you are expecting, unless they’ve changed team naming’s to Monday and no one told us.

                              When’s the RC squad named?

                              If it’s about the future of the coach, I’m certainly not expecting anything new today. In terms of media cycle today is the ‘wash up from the game’ day.

                              I just thought there might be some form of update, even a basic press please stating the review was ongoing.

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                              • FrankF Frank

                                @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                                TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                                Fuck. Really like to know why.

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                                @Frank said in Foster must go:

                                @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                                TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                                Fuck. Really like to know why.

                                Because he decides his own career not you?

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew

                                  I'd say more money than NZR were offering, or did he play in the same team as Robinson and didn't want him as a boss?

                                  If NZR have to pay a guy, supposedly 3 or 4 times his annual salary for sacking him in a job that is all about performance and results and this team is achieving neither, then they need to look at the hiring process and thier contracts.

                                  They don’t. That will be total cost. Pay out old guys. Pay new guys
                                  The bit the media miss is that they have to pay someone anyway.
                                  Even if they ignore the new costs it’s what ? Three maybe four salaries for 16 months. Sounds about right

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                                  @Crucial yeah forgot about the other fellas too.

                                  That said, still points to a shitty process when they re-signed him off some ok results without putting some tight performance clauses in.

                                  I can understand Razors reluctance, he can see the issues, he knows people will demand/expect immediate results and maybe doesn't think we have the tools to make the immediate changes or his preferred team is unavailable?

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                                    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                                    TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                                    What is he waiting for? Sure the circumstances aren't ideal. But surely he would back himself?

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                                    @canefan said in Foster must go:

                                    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                                    TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                                    What is he waiting for? Sure the circumstances aren't ideal. But surely he would back himself?

                                    It appears not. They said that Robertson wants the full 4 years before a RWC.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Crucial yeah forgot about the other fellas too.

                                      That said, still points to a shitty process when they re-signed him off some ok results without putting some tight performance clauses in.

                                      I can understand Razors reluctance, he can see the issues, he knows people will demand/expect immediate results and maybe doesn't think we have the tools to make the immediate changes or his preferred team is unavailable?

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                                      @Crucial yeah forgot about the other fellas too.

                                      That said, still points to a shitty process when they re-signed him off some ok results without putting some tight performance clauses in.

                                      Get over it. It would have been extended at the end of the year any. Way to much disruption and Covid to cover his arse then.

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                                      • FrankF Frank

                                        @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                                        TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                                        Fuck. Really like to know why.

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                                        @Frank said in Foster must go:

                                        @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                                        TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                                        Fuck. Really like to know why.

                                        what if NZR told him they were sorry?

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @canefan said in Foster must go:

                                          @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                                          TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                                          What is he waiting for? Sure the circumstances aren't ideal. But surely he would back himself?

                                          It appears not. They said that Robertson wants the full 4 years before a RWC.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Foster must go:

                                          @canefan said in Foster must go:

                                          @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                                          TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

                                          What is he waiting for? Sure the circumstances aren't ideal. But surely he would back himself?

                                          It appears not. They said that Robertson wants the full 4 years before a RWC.

                                          Fair enough. He doesn’t want a loss and we aren’t going to win this one. Time to accept that fact.

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