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  • S Steven Harris

    I reckon you couldn’t do any worse than Luke Ramano ,he will work his arse off ,carry hard into contact and you know your scrum will be rock solid on the right hand side ..
    Was excellent for the Blues ..

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    @Steven-Harris want to re phrase that? "couldn't do any worse" is what you say when they ARE the worst option

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

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      @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

      @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

      I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

        @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

        I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.

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        @No-Quarter i like the idea but im still worried about putting our faith in someone thats had so many injuries

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @Steven-Harris want to re phrase that? "couldn't do any worse" is what you say when they ARE the worst option

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          @Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there

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          • S Steven Harris

            @Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there

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            @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

            @Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there

            Well if they're going to plump for experience, it would be quite refreshing for that experience to actually be playing well.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              @Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there

              Well if they're going to plump for experience, it would be quite refreshing for that experience to actually be playing well.

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              @Bones you must have missed the super season

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              • S Steven Harris

                @Bones you must have missed the super season

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                @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                @Bones you must have missed the super season

                I certainly did not, hence why I was saying it would be refreshing to see them select a guy like Romano, instead of guys like KT.

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                  @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                  @Bones you must have missed the super season

                  I certainly did not, hence why I was saying it would be refreshing to see them select a guy like Romano, instead of guys like KT.

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                  @Bones sorry my bad

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    Looking at locks, I'd probably plump for MSR to replace Retallick - really similar game style for me and he's worth a look.

                    Dickson reminds me of that other highlanders lock from about a decade ago, for the life of me can't remember his name - but he came in and did a brilliant job for a season or 2. Hits hard on both sides of the ball - give him a shot.

                    Gallagher very similar to Dickson but with a longer future, let them fight it out.

                    Goodhue definitely worth a look over Tuipulotu if he's sticking around.

                    I'm just not hugely convinced by Vaai at lock, he just seems so lightweight.

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                    Looking at locks, I'd probably plump for MSR to replace Retallick - really similar game style for me and he's worth a look.

                    I've been underwhelmed by MSR this year and didn't think he did much in the Māori games either. He was clearly the no.3 lock in that squad.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      Looking at locks, I'd probably plump for MSR to replace Retallick - really similar game style for me and he's worth a look.

                      I've been underwhelmed by MSR this year and didn't think he did much in the Māori games either. He was clearly the no.3 lock in that squad.

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      Looking at locks, I'd probably plump for MSR to replace Retallick - really similar game style for me and he's worth a look.

                      I've been underwhelmed by MSR this year and didn't think he did much in the Māori games either. He was clearly the no.3 lock in that squad.

                      Yeah not as his previous years form yet, but I'd still like to see what he can do. It's not like our current locks are whelming.

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

                        I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.

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                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

                        I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.

                        That's a great and established combination... with Jack at 13 where he plays well and Rieko at 11 where he plays well.
                        Jordie isn't offering much at fullback, and Jordan has a vastly higher ceiling, so we need a winger. Why wait?

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                          Also mentioned on Newshub tonight that the squad announcement will be delayed. Read into that what you want.

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                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

                            I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.

                            That's a great and established combination... with Jack at 13 where he plays well and Rieko at 11 where he plays well.
                            Jordie isn't offering much at fullback, and Jordan has a vastly higher ceiling, so we need a winger. Why wait?

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                            @reprobate said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

                            I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.

                            That's a great and established combination... with Jack at 13 where he plays well and Rieko at 11 where he plays well.

                            Therein lies the problem, chop and change. If Rieko is the long-term 13 then play him there and select around him. Otherwise you get to the RWC and we still don’t know who our best centre pairing are.

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                            • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                              @reprobate said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

                              I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.

                              That's a great and established combination... with Jack at 13 where he plays well and Rieko at 11 where he plays well.

                              Therein lies the problem, chop and change. If Rieko is the long-term 13 then play him there and select around him. Otherwise you get to the RWC and we still don’t know who our best centre pairing are.

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                              @TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @reprobate said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.

                              I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.

                              That's a great and established combination... with Jack at 13 where he plays well and Rieko at 11 where he plays well.

                              Therein lies the problem, chop and change. If Rieko is the long-term 13 then play him there and select around him. Otherwise you get to the RWC and we still don’t know who our best centre pairing are.

                              Goodhue is a better centre than Ioane right now. Low errors, excellent at setting up outsides, very good defender, good communicator. Rieko might turn into an amazing centre (he has improved), but that's not a given. For all the blame being heaped on our tight forwards, our defence out wide was shit all series, and he's part of that. He also blows tries pretty regularly with poor options (and creates tries pretty regularly with his pace).
                              Why not start them in the positions they are going to win us games in now, and Rieko gets to learn from Jack, and gets the last 20 minutes to put it into practice. Goodhue could easily still be our best option at 13 at the RWC. On the other hand, if Rieko becomes compelling at super level and in his opportunities at test level, then that's great and he will have been gaining experience from both doing the job and playing next to someone whose strengths are his weaknesses the whole time.
                              Jordan I'd go the other way with. Barring injury, I don't see any possibility that Barrett is a better fullback than him by RWC, and I don't think he is now.

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                              • S Steven Harris

                                @Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there

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                                @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                @Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there

                                I get what you’re saying…and won’t argue with the principle…but he’s only managed 18 tests since 2017! And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021…is he actually bringing THAT much more experience at this level?

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                                  @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  @Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there

                                  I get what you’re saying…and won’t argue with the principle…but he’s only managed 18 tests since 2017! And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021…is he actually bringing THAT much more experience at this level?

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                                  @Kiwiwomble Stephen Perofeta's name has not been mentioned. He didn't even get a run against Ireland. Is he going to be a 10,15 or used on the bench?

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                                    Bring back Boric! 😅

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                                      @Kiwiwomble Stephen Perofeta's name has not been mentioned. He didn't even get a run against Ireland. Is he going to be a 10,15 or used on the bench?

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                                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      @Kiwiwomble Stephen Perofeta's name has not been mentioned. He didn't even get a run against Ireland. Is he going to be a 10,15 or used on the bench?

                                      You might have me confused with someone with any idea

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                                      • TorianT Torian

                                        Bring back Boric! 😅

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                                        @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        Bring back Boric! 😅

                                        Only 38yo, experience is so vital…

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                                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                          @Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there

                                          I get what you’re saying…and won’t argue with the principle…but he’s only managed 18 tests since 2017! And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021…is he actually bringing THAT much more experience at this level?

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                                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                          And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021

                                          You're ready made for a media job with thinking like that!

                                          2021 was less than a year ago mate.

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