All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there
I get what you’re saying…and won’t argue with the principle…but he’s only managed 18 tests since 2017! And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021…is he actually bringing THAT much more experience at this level?
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021
You're ready made for a media job with thinking like that!
2021 was less than a year ago mate.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
DMac won't come in as he doesn't actually start his NZR contract until he plays NPC rugby I think, where as Pat T was on sabbatical and always under contract.
Not quite right. PT was in the same spot as DMac eligibility wise.
"At the All Blacks request, the New Zealand Rugby board has used its discretion to sign off Patrick Tuipulotu immediately joining the All Blacks squad as a replacement player after his return from a six month stint in Japan."
PT had played club rugby, as has DMac.
Pretty doubtful DMac would get an exemption.
Patty did because we had three locks out and extremely short notice.
DMac's would be only because we think he's a better player and we're in the shit.
If I were a board member I wouldn't approve it.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
DMac's would be only because we think he's a better player and we're in the shit.
You're at least half-right.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Bring back Boric!
Only 38yo, experience is so vital…
@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
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@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
I feel like I'm entering a Deadpool 2 scene. This thread is going dark.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
DMac's would be only because we think he's a better player and we're in the shit.
You're at least half-right.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
DMac's would be only because we think he's a better player and we're in the shit.
You're at least half-right.
Could DMac be a better 10 now I wonder?
But anyway the posters are right, what is the point now of us talking about the best players to be selected if we don't even know what is happening with the coaching?
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@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
Come on mate let’s not get carried away, he’s only good enough for the All Blacks XV squad
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I reckon you couldn’t do any worse than Luke Ramano ,he will work his arse off ,carry hard into contact and you know your scrum will be rock solid on the right hand side ..
Was excellent for the Blues ..@Steven-Harris Wasted choice. A rental of a geriatric, who had a good game against the Brumbies and was solid the rest of the season at super rugby level. That would be a step backwards and conservative. His AB career ended a long time ago.
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@Steven-Harris Wasted choice. A rental of a geriatric, who had a good game against the Brumbies and was solid the rest of the season at super rugby level. That would be a step backwards and conservative. His AB career ended a long time ago.
@broughie said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Steven-Harris Wasted choice. A rental of a geriatric, who had a good game against the Brumbies and was solid the rest of the season at super rugby level. That would be a step backwards and conservative. His AB career ended a long time ago.
It's not a wasted choice if he's selected alongside newbies, or as cover from the bench while the likes of Vaai get starting gametime.
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You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/Faingaanuku@Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/FaingaanukuThat backline is told to score only in multiples of 5, right? So which one of the forwards will be taking PKs and conversions?
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@broughie said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Steven-Harris Wasted choice. A rental of a geriatric, who had a good game against the Brumbies and was solid the rest of the season at super rugby level. That would be a step backwards and conservative. His AB career ended a long time ago.
It's not a wasted choice if he's selected alongside newbies, or as cover from the bench while the likes of Vaai get starting gametime.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
Come on mate let’s not get carried away, he’s only good enough for the All Blacks XV squad
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Ideally we would send one or two to Europe for a season to accelerate their readiness but we would lose control of them if we that was possible.
We should have bought a club over there a while ago to blood players in the offseason. I can't see it happening for many reasons, not least of which NZR seem convinced that Super NZ is the pinnacle and all other competitions suck. Our insularity hurts us; playing SA AUS and others helps deal with different game plans, and how to travel and win. I think we'll miss them in the medium term (and it's hurting us already)
@nzzp
Agreed, I have always though we should have bought a club in Europe. Aside from the commercial opportunity it would have been great to have this option to expose coaches and players to European rugby -
@Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/FaingaanukuThat backline is told to score only in multiples of 5, right? So which one of the forwards will be taking PKs and conversions?
@stodders said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/FaingaanukuThat backline is told to score only in multiples of 5, right? So which one of the forwards will be taking PKs and conversions?
This one.
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@stodders said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/FaingaanukuThat backline is told to score only in multiples of 5, right? So which one of the forwards will be taking PKs and conversions?
This one.
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@FakatavaAllBlack
Aumua needs to be backed in my opinion. Admittedly he hasnt fulfilled the promise he showed 3 seasons ago but we can’t carry on with a 74 yr old Dane Coles and Codie Taylor who has been a fading force in the last 2 years.
Samsoni should be starting. Built for test rugby that boy. Taylor kept on for experience and off the bench and they should commit to Aumua and back themselves to get the best out of him. 3 years ago, Aumua was our potential answer to Malcolm Marx. He hasn’t help himself and has been injured at times which has slowed his development but I don’t think we can afford to disregard and potentially lose young players like him when we are losing our depth and we have a potential world class player on our hands.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@FakatavaAllBlack
Aumua needs to be backed in my opinion. Admittedly he hasnt fulfilled the promise he showed 3 seasons ago but we can’t carry on with a 74 yr old Dane Coles and Codie Taylor who has been a fading force in the last 2 years.
Samsoni should be starting. Built for test rugby that boy. Taylor kept on for experience and off the bench and they should commit to Aumua and back themselves to get the best out of him. 3 years ago, Aumua was our potential answer to Malcolm Marx. He hasn’t help himself and has been injured at times which has slowed his development but I don’t think we can afford to disregard and potentially lose young players like him when we are losing our depth and we have a potential world class player on our hands.
Given his performances in the U20s it would be a fair bet George Bell overtakes Aumua and co fairly quickly over next season or two.
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@Bones It’s an interesting one but he is not playing there and he is not a 2nd five. Might have to leave Canterbury if he even wants to play there. Another player possibly screwing himself by being a utility
@broughie said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bones It’s an interesting one but he is not playing there and he is not a 2nd five. Might have to leave Canterbury if he even wants to play there. Another player possibly screwing himself by being a utility
His challenge is he wouldn’t even make the Crusaders if he wanted to press his claims at fullback. On paper he’s an ideal 12, good passing game, kicks well, good decision maker, passable defender and when he gets his running game going albeit against weaker sides it goes well. Unfortunately his running game gets exposed against top sides who defend well.
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@Crazy-Horse Cos the alternative is Back to the Future PT
@Old-Samurai-Jack Its funny that Tuipulotu gets singled out and yes, I agree that he should be put out to pasture, but there are a lot of other guys that should be joining him too that don't cop anywhere near the same criticism.
How some people keep justifying Codie Taylor being there is beyond me. He's been terrible at the big boys level for over 2 years now and people still find an excuse to pick him. He shouldn't even be jn the squad (along with Tuipulotu and others).
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@broughie said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bones It’s an interesting one but he is not playing there and he is not a 2nd five. Might have to leave Canterbury if he even wants to play there. Another player possibly screwing himself by being a utility
His challenge is he wouldn’t even make the Crusaders if he wanted to press his claims at fullback. On paper he’s an ideal 12, good passing game, kicks well, good decision maker, passable defender and when he gets his running game going albeit against weaker sides it goes well. Unfortunately his running game gets exposed against top sides who defend well.
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@TheMojoman at super rugby level but has not shown anything at international except against the minnows. I think @Bones was suggesting 1st five but he would have the same problem in Canterbury.
@broughie said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@TheMojoman at super rugby level but has not shown anything at international except against the minnows. I think @Bones was suggesting 1st five but he would have the same problem in Canterbury.
We are talking about DH at 10? Please no. He was barely adequate there for the Crusaders. DH's best position is 15 IMO.
