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  • BonesB Bones

    @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    This picking squads game is a bit irrelevant, don’t you think, when you have an incompetent coaching panel, a corrupt administration and a public that senses you are really just shifting the deck chairs? I know it’s a fun parlour game picking this bloke or that bloke for each position, but you can swap the chess pieces as much as you want without realising that the real issue is that you’re playing checkers with 4D chess masters. I wouldn’t bother.

    Yeah fuck it. So is posting mate. Shall we close it all down?

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    @Bones Nope. Go for your lives. But it seems to be missing the point.

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    • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

      @Bones Nope. Go for your lives. But it seems to be missing the point.

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      @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

      @Bones Nope. Go for your lives. But it seems to be missing the point.

      This isn't the only thread on the forum, I'm sure you realise it. This is a thread about the ABs squad. There's a gazillion fucking other threads discussing "the point". But sure, let's change this one to discussing Foster, the game plan and the fish heads.

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        The role of the openside has changed as they aren't getting as many breakdown turnovers now, or any more frequently than any other player. What you want is to put pressure on the tackled player to slow recycling at the very least.

        Tadhg Beirne was the most dominant forward over the ball in the 3rd test, and he was at lock.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

          @Bones Nope. Go for your lives. But it seems to be missing the point.

          This isn't the only thread on the forum, I'm sure you realise it. This is a thread about the ABs squad. There's a gazillion fucking other threads discussing "the point". But sure, let's change this one to discussing Foster, the game plan and the fish heads.

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          @Bones Oh get a sense of humour, mate. You trainspotters are all the same.

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          • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

            @Bones Oh get a sense of humour, mate. You trainspotters are all the same.

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            @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

            @Bones Oh get a sense of humour, mate. You trainspotters are all the same.

            :grinning_squinting_face: I'm not the one jumping on a thread to bemoan others posting about players and "missing the point". My sense of humour is all good. And what the fuck is "trainspotters" supposed to mean in this instance? Again, you're the one pointing out how wrong I am...

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            • BonesB Bones

              @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              @Bones Oh get a sense of humour, mate. You trainspotters are all the same.

              :grinning_squinting_face: I'm not the one jumping on a thread to bemoan others posting about players and "missing the point". My sense of humour is all good. And what the fuck is "trainspotters" supposed to mean in this instance? Again, you're the one pointing out how wrong I am...

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              @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

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              • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

                @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

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                @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

                Ohhhh....educate myself. Good one. Anything in particular I should read? Hopefully it has loads of pictures.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                  @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

                  Ohhhh....educate myself. Good one. Anything in particular I should read? Hopefully it has loads of pictures.

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                  @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                  @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                  @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

                  Ohhhh....educate myself. Good one. Anything in particular I should read? Hopefully it has loads of pictures.

                  I recommend

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                  • M Machpants

                    @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                    @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                    @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

                    Ohhhh....educate myself. Good one. Anything in particular I should read? Hopefully it has loads of pictures.

                    I recommend

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                    @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

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                    I think you've underestimated me

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

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                      I think you've underestimated me

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                      @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

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                      I think you've underestimated me

                      Nah, that's me.

                      Bloody lockdown wieght still there!

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

                        Ohhhh....educate myself. Good one. Anything in particular I should read? Hopefully it has loads of pictures.

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

                        Ohhhh....educate myself. Good one. Anything in particular I should read? Hopefully it has loads of pictures.

                        @MrDenmore as a former Journalist and Editor maybe you can suggest some stuff for @Bones to read ?

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                          @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                          @Bones Maybe read more widely. It might do you good.

                          Ohhhh....educate myself. Good one. Anything in particular I should read? Hopefully it has loads of pictures.

                          @MrDenmore as a former Journalist and Editor maybe you can suggest some stuff for @Bones to read ?

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                          @MN5 you people are all the same

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @MN5 you people are all the same

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @MN5 you people are all the same

                            I was trying to be offended on your behalf and you’ve just offended me.

                            Stop being contrarian and educate yourself.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              The role of the openside has changed as they aren't getting as many breakdown turnovers now, or any more frequently than any other player. What you want is to put pressure on the tackled player to slow recycling at the very least.

                              Tadhg Beirne was the most dominant forward over the ball in the 3rd test, and he was at lock.

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              The role of the openside has changed as they aren't getting as many breakdown turnovers now, or any more frequently than any other player.

                              For that you can blame the GOAT. He was so good WR changed the law. Then Pocockwomble turned being second to the breakdown into an art form. Defences got so good that that little trick isn't worth carrying a limited player.

                              That goes for passive tacklers who give up ground to try and stay on their feet to be the first on the ball.

                              In my opinion we're at a point where the team is better off denying territory with punishing defence.

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                                Blackadder on the EOYT tour looked like someone who deserved to be an Allblack to me.

                                A Mongrel. He really really wanted it and was climbing into bigger blokes with gay abandon. Maybe could do with putting on a few KG's from my barstool view.

                                When Blackadder plays, I know he is on the pitch. Same can't be said for a few others.

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                                • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

                                  This picking squads game is a bit irrelevant, don’t you think, when you have an incompetent coaching panel, a corrupt administration and a public that senses you are really just shifting the deck chairs? I know it’s a fun parlour game picking this bloke or that bloke for each position, but you can swap the chess pieces as much as you want without realising that the real issue is that you’re playing checkers with 4D chess masters. I wouldn’t bother.

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                                  @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  This picking squads game is a bit irrelevant, don’t you think, when you have an incompetent coaching panel, a corrupt administration and a public that senses you are really just shifting the deck chairs? I know it’s a fun parlour game picking this bloke or that bloke for each position, but you can swap the chess pieces as much as you want without realising that the real issue is that you’re playing checkers with 4D chess masters. I wouldn’t bother.

                                  So don’t bother. Meanwhile

                                  Moody, Taylor, O. Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder, Grace…..

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                                  • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

                                    On the squad issue and given the lack of cattle, might it be time for NZR to follow the South Africans and Australians and open up the potential pool to those playing in overseas clubs? Wasn’t that how Erasmus engineered the Springbok turnaround?

                                    On the standard objection that this will open the floodgates to up and coming NZ players or those early in their AB careers taking the big euros, francs and yen offshore, isn’t it too late for that? It’s happening already. Rugby, like football, is now a globalised sport where moneyed club owners suck up talent regardless of national affiliation or affinity.

                                    Assuming we get past that point, the much more interesting question is are there NZ players overseas worth looking at - particularly in the tight five, blindslide or centres? Stephen Luatua springs to mind, as does Ngani Laumape.

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                                    @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    On the squad issue and given the lack of cattle, might it be time for NZR to follow the South Africans and Australians and open up the potential pool to those playing in overseas clubs? Wasn’t that how Erasmus engineered the Springbok turnaround?

                                    On the standard objection that this will open the floodgates to up and coming NZ players or those early in their AB careers taking the big euros, francs and yen offshore, isn’t it too late for that? It’s happening already. Rugby, like football, is now a globalised sport where moneyed club owners suck up talent regardless of national affiliation or affinity.

                                    Assuming we get past that point, the much more interesting question is are there NZ players overseas worth looking at - particularly in the tight five, blindslide or centres? Stephen Luatua springs to mind, as does Ngani Laumape.

                                    Who of the overseas contingent is compellingly better than who we've got here?

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @MrDenmore said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      This picking squads game is a bit irrelevant, don’t you think, when you have an incompetent coaching panel, a corrupt administration and a public that senses you are really just shifting the deck chairs? I know it’s a fun parlour game picking this bloke or that bloke for each position, but you can swap the chess pieces as much as you want without realising that the real issue is that you’re playing checkers with 4D chess masters. I wouldn’t bother.

                                      So don’t bother. Meanwhile

                                      Moody, Taylor, O. Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder, Grace…..

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                                      @ACT-Crusader backline of Ellis, Mounga, Bridge, Havili, Ennor, Reece & Jordan

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                                        @ACT-Crusader backline of Ellis, Mounga, Bridge, Havili, Ennor, Reece & Jordan

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                                        @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @ACT-Crusader backline of Ellis, Mounga, Bridge, Havili, Ennor, Reece & Jordan

                                        No way.

                                        Ellis, Mo’unga, Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Victor-Meldrew I would say throw the captaincy to DP, but he really has to prove he's set in stone first. I'd be tempted to go with Scooter.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew I would say throw the captaincy to DP, but he really has to prove he's set in stone first. I'd be tempted to go with Scooter.

                                          Sam Whitelock if Sam Cane can’t make the team. He is still first choice in his position. Part of a winning culture over many years.

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