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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    if poor Sam is the only one to lose his job i will be breaking out the blue and gold pitchforks and torches.

    Fuck I'll join you. Cane is not the problem and still has plenty to offer at test level. We need MORE players that tackle hard, not less!

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    if poor Sam is the only one to lose his job i will be breaking out the blue and gold pitchforks and torches.

    Fuck I'll join you. Cane is not the problem and still has plenty to offer at test level. We need MORE players that tackle hard, not less!

    Yeah, it'll be funny if we end up with a ruck watcher at 7. I'm trying to remember the last time we tried that? Some game with assholes in white shirts on the other team.

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      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

      if poor Sam is the only one to lose his job i will be breaking out the blue and gold pitchforks and torches.

      Fuck I'll join you. Cane is not the problem and still has plenty to offer at test level. We need MORE players that tackle hard, not less!

      Yeah, it'll be funny if we end up with a ruck watcher at 7. I'm trying to remember the last time we tried that? Some game with assholes in white shirts on the other team.

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      @gt12 I'm confused. Who's the ruck watcher?

      All I can think of when they say Cane losing the captaincy is that it is because they don't want him to be an automatic starter. I assume that's because they want to start Papali'i. Are you calling him a ruck watcher?

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        @gt12 I'm confused. Who's the ruck watcher?

        All I can think of when they say Cane losing the captaincy is that it is because they don't want him to be an automatic starter. I assume that's because they want to start Papali'i. Are you calling him a ruck watcher?

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        @Stargazer assume Savea is the watcher

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @gt12 I'm confused. Who's the ruck watcher?

          All I can think of when they say Cane losing the captaincy is that it is because they don't want him to be an automatic starter. I assume that's because they want to start Papali'i. Are you calling him a ruck watcher?

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          @Stargazer said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

          @gt12 I'm confused. Who's the ruck watcher?

          All I can think of when they say Cane losing the captaincy is that it is because they don't want him to be an automatic starter. I assume that's because they want to start Papali'i. Are you calling him a ruck watcher?

          No. He's the next Sam Cane. Would be a good choice.

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            Cane needs to lose captaincy, therefore at the very least doesn’t start. Simple!

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            • M Machpants

              @Chris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              The squad assembles in Wellington on Monday so I am sure that the players know who is going to SA, or not.

              With this management lot probably they don't know.
              A few txts on Monday morning where are you the plane is leaving in 5 min.

              I dunno once you're in Foster's squad it's hard to get kicked out. So it'll be the same 34/36 placyers with replacements for Brodie and Karl.

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              @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              @Chris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              The squad assembles in Wellington on Monday so I am sure that the players know who is going to SA, or not.

              With this management lot probably they don't know.
              A few txts on Monday morning where are you the plane is leaving in 5 min.

              I dunno once you're in Foster's squad it's hard to get kicked out. So it'll be the same 34/36 placyers with replacements for Brodie and Karl.

              Probs Gus (misses first test doesn't he? And probably still concussed)
              And how is Ofa's noggin?

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              • T The Docter

                Cane needs to lose captaincy, therefore at the very least doesn’t start. Simple!

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                @The-Docter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                Cane needs to lose captaincy, therefore at the very least doesn’t start. Simple!

                I think you have it arse about face. I have no issue with his captaincy or mana in the team. My questions are simply whether he’s our best option in the 7 jersey.
                That’s either because they think Ardie can move back to openside (which I’m not convinced on. He has to be there but is neither a 7 or 8 in the traditional setups) or Ardie stays 8 and DP gets more time.
                I agree that if DP is going to take over openside then he needs to get up to speed before the RWC but that solves nothing in regards to the balance of the looses.

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                  Crucial
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                  The journos have it all wrong anyway. Ardie is the new captain. You heard it on the fern first.
                  I have a sauce.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @The-Docter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                    Cane needs to lose captaincy, therefore at the very least doesn’t start. Simple!

                    I think you have it arse about face. I have no issue with his captaincy or mana in the team. My questions are simply whether he’s our best option in the 7 jersey.
                    That’s either because they think Ardie can move back to openside (which I’m not convinced on. He has to be there but is neither a 7 or 8 in the traditional setups) or Ardie stays 8 and DP gets more time.
                    I agree that if DP is going to take over openside then he needs to get up to speed before the RWC but that solves nothing in regards to the balance of the looses.

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                    @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                    I have no issue with his captaincy or mana in the team.

                    I do. I'm a huge Sam Cane fan as a player.

                    He hasn't displayed the qualities to be a good captain.

                    He was captain when Chiefs went winless in Super Rugby Aotearoa a couple of years ago.

                    That said - whilst I don't rate him as a captain - I don't think it would be nearly as much of an issue if he was still peak Sam Cane. He's clearly not the player he used to be and can't demand a starting spot.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      I have no issue with his captaincy or mana in the team.

                      I do. I'm a huge Sam Cane fan as a player.

                      He hasn't displayed the qualities to be a good captain.

                      He was captain when Chiefs went winless in Super Rugby Aotearoa a couple of years ago.

                      That said - whilst I don't rate him as a captain - I don't think it would be nearly as much of an issue if he was still peak Sam Cane. He's clearly not the player he used to be and can't demand a starting spot.

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                      @KiwiMurph “qualities”?
                      Not being overly effective is a bit different to qualities in my lingo. Maybe dictionary boy will sort it out 😉

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @KiwiMurph “qualities”?
                        Not being overly effective is a bit different to qualities in my lingo. Maybe dictionary boy will sort it out 😉

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                        @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        @KiwiMurph “qualities”?
                        Not being overly effective is a bit different to qualities in my lingo. Maybe dictionary boy will sort it out 😉

                        There's more to being a leader than being a good or effective player.

                        Keven Mealamu was a wonderful player. He was not a wonderful Blues captain.

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                          Crucial
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                          BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                          It may become evident soon.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @KiwiMurph “qualities”?
                            Not being overly effective is a bit different to qualities in my lingo. Maybe dictionary boy will sort it out 😉

                            There's more to being a leader than being a good or effective player.

                            Keven Mealamu was a wonderful player. He was not a wonderful Blues captain.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            @KiwiMurph “qualities”?
                            Not being overly effective is a bit different to qualities in my lingo. Maybe dictionary boy will sort it out 😉

                            There's more to being a leader than being a good or effective player.

                            Keven Mealamu was a wonderful player. He was not a wonderful Blues captain.

                            Agree. That’s not what I was getting at. Cane has leadership qualities in my view and going by the respect his players have for him. I just find him not very effective in on field management of the game or ref “playing”
                            I still think he’s an effective player. The last game looked like he was carrying a heavy burden and that’s a sad way to end. Hopefully he can do a Ross Taylor.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                              It may become evident soon.

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                              @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                              It may become evident soon.

                              Foster is pregnant?

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                              • M Machpants

                                @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                It may become evident soon.

                                Foster is pregnant?

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                                Crucial
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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                It may become evident soon.

                                Foster is pregnant?

                                Close.

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                  It may become evident soon.

                                  Foster is pregnant?

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                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                  It may become evident soon.

                                  Foster is pregnant?

                                  Just looks it

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                    It may become evident soon.

                                    Foster is pregnant?

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                                    Crucial
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                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                    It may become evident soon.

                                    Foster is pregnant?

                                    Well he was fucked about 9 months ago.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                      It may become evident soon.

                                      Foster is pregnant?

                                      Well he was fucked about 9 months ago.

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                                      @Crucial he must be married then.

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                        It may become evident soon.

                                        Foster is pregnant?

                                        Well he was fucked about 9 months ago.

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                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
                                        It may become evident soon.

                                        Foster is pregnant?

                                        Well he was fucked about 9 months ago.

                                        He was fucked way before 9 months ago. He must have a gestation period longer than an elephant.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                          @KiwiMurph “qualities”?
                                          Not being overly effective is a bit different to qualities in my lingo. Maybe dictionary boy will sort it out 😉

                                          There's more to being a leader than being a good or effective player.

                                          Keven Mealamu was a wonderful player. He was not a wonderful Blues captain.

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                                          @KiwiMurph maybe unburdening him from the captaincy might reignite him?

                                          That said, if Foster is doing this now, he is an utter fluffybunny

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