All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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Looks like some good ideas, I not too sure about too many back changes, although I wouldn't mind seeing how Caleb is fitness wise, LF just does nothing for my confidence, seemed to look like a deer in headlights in defence or under high kick etc. I hope that Will Jordan gets his mojo back, apart from his searing run for try on weekend he disappointed me a bit, didn't compete in air chasing kicks, and looked lost in defence a couple of times. I dtruggling with props too, not sure which way we go, but Karl T probably just using up a spot as no future there anyway, and Nepo after his stupid carry on weekend was enough to make me wonder if he needs to drift away.
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Looks like some good ideas, I not too sure about too many back changes, although I wouldn't mind seeing how Caleb is fitness wise, LF just does nothing for my confidence, seemed to look like a deer in headlights in defence or under high kick etc. I hope that Will Jordan gets his mojo back, apart from his searing run for try on weekend he disappointed me a bit, didn't compete in air chasing kicks, and looked lost in defence a couple of times. I dtruggling with props too, not sure which way we go, but Karl T probably just using up a spot as no future there anyway, and Nepo after his stupid carry on weekend was enough to make me wonder if he needs to drift away.
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Looks like some good ideas, I not too sure about too many back changes, although I wouldn't mind seeing how Caleb is fitness wise, LF just does nothing for my confidence, seemed to look like a deer in headlights in defence or under high kick etc. I hope that Will Jordan gets his mojo back, apart from his searing run for try on weekend he disappointed me a bit, didn't compete in air chasing kicks, and looked lost in defence a couple of times. I dtruggling with props too, not sure which way we go, but Karl T probably just using up a spot as no future there anyway, and Nepo after his stupid carry on weekend was enough to make me wonder if he needs to drift away.
G’day Danny, hoped you enjoyed the weekend in Wellington? I’m sure Mike has been moaning your ear off about how poor the ABs are
Any changes will depend on who is actually coaching and selecting the side I suppose.
De Groot, newell need to come in. I would rather have ramano than Patty T tbh and Cullen Grace needs to come into the mix.
Backs are largely the right group but potentially worth being McKenzie in.
Frankly, it’s probably immaterial what the squad looks like as I have lost all faith that our coaching group has the ability to create a strong side, with a coherent gameplan, that is capable of winning these games.
Take decisive action and change that now and we can start to look forward. As it stands, lots of people won’t even bother to watch it; live or on demand.
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@Dan54 your thoughts on Fletcher Newell? I don't know the dark arts myself but boy even I can tell he looks like some force
@FakatavaAllBlack
We have some real talent coming through at prop. All fairly young though and ideally would be given a bit more time to learn and grow.
Ideally we would send one or two to Europe for a season to accelerate their readiness but we would lose control of them if we that was possible.
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de Groot and Lomax would be the next in line for the props if the status quo of coaches remain. They were both involved at different stages during the Irish series. It's debatable that these are the right choices, so only a coaching change would allow a complete refresh.
Outside of TJP (and to a lesser degree Weber and Bridge), we haven't seen many experienced ABs dropped recently. Whoever the coach is needs to be decisive and cull under-performing players. That puts everyone on notice.
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de Groot and Lomax would be the next in line for the props if the status quo of coaches remain. They were both involved at different stages during the Irish series. It's debatable that these are the right choices, so only a coaching change would allow a complete refresh.
Outside of TJP (and to a lesser degree Weber and Bridge), we haven't seen many experienced ABs dropped recently. Whoever the coach is needs to be decisive and cull under-performing players. That puts everyone on notice.
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@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
@FakatavaAllBlack
Aumua needs to be backed in my opinion. Admittedly he hasnt fulfilled the promise he showed 3 seasons ago but we can’t carry on with a 74 yr old Dane Coles and Codie Taylor who has been a fading force in the last 2 years.
Samsoni should be starting. Built for test rugby that boy. Taylor kept on for experience and off the bench and they should commit to Aumua and back themselves to get the best out of him. 3 years ago, Aumua was our potential answer to Malcolm Marx. He hasn’t help himself and has been injured at times which has slowed his development but I don’t think we can afford to disregard and potentially lose young players like him when we are losing our depth and we have a potential world class player on our hands.
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My only interest in this now is from a meta point of view. Guessing what Foster will do is useless, but I will have my crack.
Does he pick the same team? If so, he signals that the problem is not the players. So it must be the coaching. Awkward!
Does he completely revise the team, dropping those that actually did not perform? If so, he's going to be taking a very green team across to South Africa. Not ideal.
My guess, based on his previous track record, is that he will keep all his favourites and established players, and dump lots of new players. Say Akira Ioane, Fakatava, Taukei'aho, Fainga'anuku, Tupea, Papali'i. It won't make a blind bit of difference whether they played well, someone else has to bear the responsibility, but he won't want a green team. Their replacements will be selected more or less at random.
So it will look like he's "doing something". But the 15 that run out against South Africa in the first test will be all the oldsters, so actually doing nothing different at all.
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@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
We need the experience with Taylor. I’d say have ST as your starting hooker with Taylor playing the role Mealamu played backend of his career. Put Coles out to pasture and have Aumua as the 3rd hooker.
In terms of lock, there are a few good locks almost ready for test duties - Lord (when recovered), Dickson, Parkinson (when recovered) and potentially MSR? I like the looks of young Fabian Holland, he’s big and still looks like he could put on another 10KG without sacrificing mobility. Could develop into a Retallick type.
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My only interest in this now is from a meta point of view. Guessing what Foster will do is useless, but I will have my crack.
Does he pick the same team? If so, he signals that the problem is not the players. So it must be the coaching. Awkward!
Does he completely revise the team, dropping those that actually did not perform? If so, he's going to be taking a very green team across to South Africa. Not ideal.
My guess, based on his previous track record, is that he will keep all his favourites and established players, and dump lots of new players. Say Akira Ioane, Fakatava, Taukei'aho, Fainga'anuku, Tupea, Papali'i. It won't make a blind bit of difference whether they played well, someone else has to bear the responsibility, but he won't want a green team. Their replacements will be selected more or less at random.
So it will look like he's "doing something". But the 15 that run out against South Africa in the first test will be all the oldsters, so actually doing nothing different at all.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
My only interest in this now is from a meta point of view. Guessing what Foster will do is useless, but I will have my crack.
Does he pick the same team? If so, he signals that the problem is not the players. So it must be the coaching. Awkward!
Does he completely revise the team, dropping those that actually did not perform? If so, he's going to be taking a very green team across to South Africa. Not ideal.
My guess, based on his previous track record, is that he will keep all his favourites and established players, and dump lots of new players. Say Akira Ioane, Fakatava, Taukei'aho, Fainga'anuku, Tupea, Papali'i. It won't make a blind bit of difference whether they played well, someone else has to bear the responsibility, but he won't want a green team. Their replacements will be selected more or less at random.
So it will look like he's "doing something". But the 15 that run out against South Africa in the first test will be all the oldsters, so actually doing nothing different at all.
This is our problem. Picking Fozz for continuity appears to be another way of saying do the same shit that wasn't working anymore
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@ACT-Crusader Absolutely. MSR is very, very average, and is a criminal, so may not be able to travel. I'd have Goodhue, Strange, and others ahead of him. Very overrated player.
@Tim Dickson would be my go to, but I think Goodhue could be a good option too (assuming he isnt heading off shore as rumoured) strong scrummaging lock, good in the air and his physicality this year has been a huge step up...obviously has had issues with head injuries, so may be a reason if he is looking off shore.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
What’s happened to Pari Pari Parkinson ?
Still rehabbing I think.
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@MN5 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
What’s happened to Pari Pari Parkinson ?
Still rehabbing I think.
Hopefully bulking up too as per @Bones suggestion
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I would like to see IWL selected.
He was impressive for the Maori.
A big body who uses his size well - moves bodies and a good ball runner.
@KiwiMurph worth a punt.
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@stodders
Yes, but who ?
I like what I saw of Sangster and of Gallagher. Both are athletic and provide a good workrate. They are very young and raw but the EOYT could be a perfect occasion to test them at a higher level.@cgrant said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@stodders
Yes, but who ?
I like what I saw of Sangster and of Gallagher. Both are athletic and provide a good workrate. They are very young and raw but the EOYT could be a perfect occasion to test them at a higher level.That's what the All Blacks XV is for.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
We need the experience with Taylor. I’d say have ST as your starting hooker with Taylor playing the role Mealamu played backend of his career. Put Coles out to pasture and have Aumua as the 3rd hooker.
In terms of lock, there are a few good locks almost ready for test duties - Lord (when recovered), Dickson, Parkinson (when recovered) and potentially MSR? I like the looks of young Fabian Holland, he’s big and still looks like he could put on another 10KG without sacrificing mobility. Could develop into a Retallick type.
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
We need the experience with Taylor. I’d say have ST as your starting hooker with Taylor playing the role Mealamu played backend of his career. Put Coles out to pasture and have Aumua as the 3rd hooker.
Yes, it was very obvious that Foster and Plumtree were too conservative by dropping ST and not Taylor if they wanted to give Coles a game. Experience is only an advantage if you are are playing well too.
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@Dan54 your thoughts on Fletcher Newell? I don't know the dark arts myself but boy even I can tell he looks like some force
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Dan54 your thoughts on Fletcher Newell? I don't know the dark arts myself but boy even I can tell he looks like some force
Yep mate, looks ok to me, but someone who knows more about it will know if he needs a bit more time. I was always a lock, and don't profess to really have the know on props, although he does seem to have a bloody big future.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
We need the experience with Taylor. I’d say have ST as your starting hooker with Taylor playing the role Mealamu played backend of his career. Put Coles out to pasture and have Aumua as the 3rd hooker.
In terms of lock, there are a few good locks almost ready for test duties - Lord (when recovered), Dickson, Parkinson (when recovered) and potentially MSR? I like the looks of young Fabian Holland, he’s big and still looks like he could put on another 10KG without sacrificing mobility. Could develop into a Retallick type.
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
We need the experience with Taylor. I’d say have ST as your starting hooker with Taylor playing the role Mealamu played backend of his career. Put Coles out to pasture and have Aumua as the 3rd hooker.
Taylor has been mud so there's no way he's currently up to playing the Mealamu role.
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@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
We need the experience with Taylor. I’d say have ST as your starting hooker with Taylor playing the role Mealamu played backend of his career. Put Coles out to pasture and have Aumua as the 3rd hooker.
Taylor has been mud so there's no way he's currently up to playing the Mealamu role.
@Nepia said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
We need the experience with Taylor. I’d say have ST as your starting hooker with Taylor playing the role Mealamu played backend of his career. Put Coles out to pasture and have Aumua as the 3rd hooker.
Taylor has been mud so there's no way he's currently up to playing the Mealamu role.
I'd definitely take Coles. Taylor looks a shadow. At least Coles still has some fight in him
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@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae wish we had more hooker depth.. if say Codie taylor was to be dropped from the squad who then joins? Aumua?
We need the experience with Taylor. I’d say have ST as your starting hooker with Taylor playing the role Mealamu played backend of his career. Put Coles out to pasture and have Aumua as the 3rd hooker.
Taylor has been mud so there's no way he's currently up to playing the Mealamu role.
@Nepia maybe dropping Taylor to the bench, or from the 23 might give him the jolt he needs to up his game again!
